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+1, I shit talk a lot, I think you're genuinely one of the best people on the server right now, you're erratic and disorganised and yet always end up with a functioning plan to make things happen. you probably will deliver a hit to SOBDE stability but the changes you're willing to implement it make you seem very much worth it. Changes to Grey RC & outreach sound especially good. You want what's best for SOBDE and I have nothing but respect for that

you should add the screaming-crying emoji so whenever someone disagrees with me I can totally own them!!!

this is the most rep desperate suggestion I've ever seen +1 tho

This is such a sad attitude, like I personally don't want the founders telling players what they can and cannot say outside of genuinely malicious acts. Stuff like racism, homophobia and other bigoted seem to have attracted little attention or repercussions garnering the regular punishments for most other rule breaks. IP jokes seem to have taken a life of their own as if they're some huge issue which pretty obviously it is not, if a fake IP or even mention of IPs really upsets you this much maybe you just shouldn't be on the internet. We don't like redundant restrictions because they ruin fun on the server and achieve nothing so why have them enforced at all. Pointless restrictions aren't fun and the community isn't very happy to hand over the power to ban whatever jokes the founders want if they deem it "scary" enough. This isn't like harassment it's just stupid jokes I don't see why we should just be okay with people telling us what we can do when it's not harming anyone else. But you seem to have a desire to lick this boot and die on the hill that banning jokes is epic sauce because I don't find it funny. It's weird to have this harsh a punishments for even mentioning IPs in a joke, clearly the community doesn't agree. You can tell by the fact IP jokes have skyrocketed in private since the introduction of this ban, it was almost never brought up but now it's happening again and again every day. People are always joking about "funny numbers" and how they're "scared". it's just so silly, why care this much about harmless jokes. If there is genuine threat behind the post and someone is doxxing people yeah go ahead but I think most of us are yet to see that. +1, I think it's funny and banning it has only made it funnier just making it a much bigger issue when it never was one

How would we organise this? Do we let people pick teams because that would be insanely unfair, if pull volunteered names from hats how will we know everyone will turn up and how will we know those people will willingly work together Battalions, with all their flaws, provide the best basis for teams as they hold prior structure that hold them together and somewhat consistent numbers we can trust to turn up. so players based only would really only work for non-team choices which very much limits what we can do with BvB not saying your idea is wrong it just seems hard to implement

personally am 100% against outreach, how many times does it need to be implemented and reimplemented before you realise it will never work. SOBDE is a regular ass battalion now it doesn't really have the same excuse to run this programme anymore. Just get rid of it all together because it is pointless. This new Squad based approach with multiple batts seems like an extremely watered-down system that is nothing like outreach at all and is just a fancy name for cross-batt training. Why not just call it that? I also feel like enforcing serious RP is a bad play cause it makes it feel like a chore and often just breeds this weird elitist attitude. If you lead by example and make RP look fun but still make it a choice you'll entice people and actually have them choose to engage. This hard-line forceful attitude doesn't really work with people it only works with systems, people are not robots and are generally against being forced to do things but by promoting those who do better RP (much easier to implement into SOBDE) as well as have all CMD+ lead by example you can create a system in which people will do better RP because they actually want to. I dunno if I'm stupid but minging is already against the rules and dropped off a huge amount since SOBDE battalionised (likely unrelated) I think demanding better behaviour is okay and I support moves to stamp out minging and failRP but I think this issue is being resolved already by current leadership so I don't see a change as necessary to facilitate this. -1, I just can't see these plans leading SOBDE to a better place or demanding a change in leadership, you're prolly a nice guy tho

+1, you seem the most capable and level minded applicable for this position I see no reason not to support you

I think skill points are a small part about the server that could bring something unique to synergy. We could do a lot of things with this and I think it's a great thing to start talking more openly about. Maybe some skills could be exclusive to other skills so you'd have to pick (dunno how you'd work the refund stuff maybe a cool down to prevent abuse) it's a great place to see what simple things could maybe be expanded. Devs would have to take a lot of time balance testing so it would be pretty hard to look for what could be improved but I see this as a great place to start +1

No battalion would ever let this happen, it's like if 41st suddenly wanted to take over ARF training like no one would let that happen. Any "shield training" is gonna be inside batts probably by the HVYO+ after the tryout is done so they know how the shield operates and stuff.

Well all the shit is on the ship so it would probably end up with a bunch of people cramped in the ship. Since all the shit would be going on in the ship. So no, way way more people are gonna be in the ship. The base is all wasted space imo. Maybe this map could work if more shit was moved into the base. Cause they're either going to be unused or unusable due to tiny corridors. It's just not really built for main server but if changed I guess I could see it working I dunno if that's likely tho It's pretty clearly a deployment type map that tried to force too many things into a ship with this big empty base The fog is also pretty horrendous

-1, only officers and naval really ever use pistols. Medics already have guns don't really see the point of this, no offence

there are 2 bunks for clone troopers. No engine room, 1 tiny CSR, No temple, No brig. The map sacrifices a lot of shit for a BH village bigger than the clone base. I agree with a base/venator mix map but this map cannot facilitate main server activities and probably works more as a full server deployment type deal -1, this suggestion is frustration with the venator map which should be discussed but this map is not the replacement not unless massively adapted to properly create a clone base

So will DU lose their Shield or not? They lost the Z6 because it's a reg weapon and a batt buff

I see what you did their Maddoxx, not sneaky at all +1

One shudders to imagine what 21st thinks is "fun"

+1, best of luck with the interview

You are yet to hit puberty. You physically cannot get bricked up

Should we just keep these corpse battalions on the server? How do you suggest we solve battalions who hold no place in the server? because we have our solution: full removal You people keep asking to wait and see what happens. What are we waiting for? How long do we need to wait? Can we make a removal post in a year if DU is just as out-of-place and unfun to work with. I can understand reservations about how members are likely to leave if their battalion is removed but keeping that battalion is not the solution. At this point people are no longer arguing whether or not DU deserves to be removed because it's become blatantly obvious this is the case. DU itself cannot be defended people have moved to general concerns that could apply to any battalion. Despite DU unique place in not fitting in, being painfully characterless, and having no lore to build off into something. We don't want to fix DU, that's not what this suggestion is aiming to do. This suggestion is about how DU as a battalion, but not it's people, are an issue that cannot be fixed as it's fundamental to the battalion. We want it gone because you cannot reform it in any way. People aren't doing this for 21st or RANCOR because there's genuine value, lore, and reform-ability with those groups. Honestly the real thing that should be discussed is how to ensure we keep DU members from leaving the server cause that's the big issue with removing batts. This is a more nuanced issue I would probably put in the hands of HC to organise like a transfer program for DU to get equal ranks in batts or something along those lines.

Please state a single way this can be achieved because you're just making an unjustified claim. We are suggesting a solution to DU, what is your solution to DU since we cannot find another one? No one brought up dead lore characters lol not sure why you did tbh. Still doesn't go against my point DU is not interesting and has no lore to bounce off of. They're not fun to interact with because they have no character or personality. 212th and 501st are the most lore rich and character heavy battalions and quite Cleary have separate personalities most accentuated by their very different BCMDs. 501st is more rag tag with a unique and off the books approach which Rex and Anakin love to play into. Cody is too the books just like 212th, he's a hard ass but his battalion kicks ass and is deployed everywhere because of how damn good it is. Doom is not a person I don't think he even says anything in all of the CLone wars. DU carries that same distinct lack of any personality. DU doesn't have a special structure like 21st because it is a nothing battalion. You can't do whatever you want because then it's not even DU at that point. They are a nameless battalion with no reason to exist in the server. If we want unique groups we shouldn't be looking for the most bland and vanilla battalions to expand upon? How would you even expand upon DU because it is so much of nothing. Even it's sub unit was made up. You people keep saying there is another solution but I am not seeing it. We already know wipes and better leaders haven't worked. So what now? DU can't be turned into something better because it doesn't have anything to build off of. So please suggest any way to improve it

You're considering DU in the short term. This is a defence you could give for any battalion low on numbers, that's why it's not the real issue with DU. DU isn't a battalion you can fix, replace , or repair. It is a bad idea that has snowballed into a beloved battalion. It looks cool and it sounds cool but it isn't special. it doesn't serve a role or hold a place that makes it reasonable to continue the existence of. DU doesn't have a job, we aren't asking for a different DU we're asking for no DU and no replacement, at least not a replacement for DU's role. DU has a lot of people in it and has a lot of people who care about it but that isn't enough to keep it going(91st, 327th, 187th, RM, 38th, Senate Commando, Covert Ops). DU has not got enough lore to make it fun to interact with like 212th or 501st, it doesn't hold special RP that makes it fun unlike CG, it doesn't have a special structural makeup which makes it unique like RANCOR or 21st, and it doesn't have a special role which is interesting like 104th or 41st. It truly is a nothing battalion that doesn't really justify it's existence beyond the fact it exists. This circular logic would mean it would never make sense to remove anything unless it was an enormous detriment to the server like the CIS. But then we'd be stuck with things like Grey Jedi or Naval Jedi who are sort of pointless entities who don't really hold any role but are kept around because it makes some people happy. DU is pretty much the only battalion in which we don't really have a special reason to keep them beyond them being a battalion with members. All others (a few may struggle) quite firmly justify there position as I've already stated. So why doesn't DU have to do the same thing?

I think a lot of people are emotionally involved in the existence and creation of DU. A lot of people see this as a community they are a part of. It's hard to actually want to seriously consider the removal of so many hours of love, hard work, and true friendship. There are a lot of memories and amazing memories created by DU for members of said battalion. But it simply cannot be ignored, DU truly does not hold a place within the server. Now this isn't about the members, or anything to do with anyone who's ever joined the battalion. And I think a lot of people are trying to muddle the ideas of the people of DU and the actual battalion itself. Looking at the place and function of DU it just doesn't fit in at all. It's a shield battalion? But what sort of battalion would want to be locked to such a boring and slow role? The answer is no one because DU doesn't play a defensive role in the server. No one does, which is generally a larger issue of people being unwilling to play their role but that doesn't seem like an attitude that's easy to change. The solution to such an issue is definitely not making a battalion more suitable to said role because we all know players only want to go on the offence. The loss of the Z6 was 100% absolutely justified but it was also when DU lost pretty much their only good feature. They were the OP ass blasting batt that got a big fucking gun and shields making them the ultimate assault force because they were all heavies. But they are no longer this, their shield doesn't mesh well with any other class except heavy. How does an ARF trooper even make good use of a shield if they're constantly on the move? It simply just isn't a strong loadout. When you aren't playing defensive or using a Z6 it is simply not that useful. This is why DU was better before they lost their gun (deservedly) and why the DS trooper is actually pretty useful. People keep bringing in people and the drama of which DU seems to ooze like a wound that can't heal. People will claim a wipe or reset may solve this sort of issue. But 21st, & RANCOR did not make any gains from their wipes and ultimately became a husk of their former selves. SOBDE was fundamentally changed and lost the most toxic features but is still holds many characteristics it's "wipe" was supposed to resolve. Battalions simply cannot be wiped to change, they either are murdered in the process or sink into old habits with a new coat of paint. But we kept around these 3 stated battalions because the server would be a lot more complicated without them. 21st has a more uneasy position but it's undeniable the server would struggle without RANCOR or SOBDE. DU, sadly, does not hold any position like this. It is a shield battalion and it's not even very good at that because why would you want to be. It doesn't matter about the people, wiping it has never done anything to fix anything. 187th was popular, so was 91st, and 327th. Yet they were all ripped up and all parts removed. These battalions never worked in the server and we have seen them far too often fall into disarray and fail to keep up to their regimental brothers. None of them held a place and were simply 2nd place at all times to the better choice. 187th couldn't beat 2ndAC, 91st was always behind 41st, & 327th could never match either 501st or 212th. They served no purpose, they had no place. DU sits in the same place. Popular with the people but fundamentally flawed. The people who has served DU I heavily advise you consider what you wish to tie your name to. Do you want to be a badge on a decaying corpse or do you wish to be a plaque on a distinguished grave. Because it becomes quite clear it's unlikely there is a synergy in which DU remains alive. And to the people who are not in DU you should consider how you discuss something people sunk months or even years into. There is passion and brotherhood weaved into these battalions so it matters that we treat it with respect. we are weighing up the aspects and quality of a battalion not it's people. There is no defence that can justify the continued existence of DU as a battalion only justifications for a battalion to exist. We can get DU on it's feet but it still won't be a fun battalion to interact with as it truly doesn't have a unique place in the server. Unlike other battalions there is no way to reform DU as this is the only way DU can exist, as a regular battalion. It just doesn't justify it's own existence. DU should not be removed because you dislike the people of DU. It should be removed because it does not function. +1, it sad to see that some creative ideas must come to an end I also suggest moving the shield to heavy, where both things may find an actual place to be useful

I would -1 but I can't find the sad emoji png so I wouldn't have an argument +1

1.2k andy here and I was thinking about replying but it was just mid

Jagger was cracked too but wicked was smth else. Hope he took those skills to the IDF