Nerf the christmas dc-17m

[Ccmonty]

Name: Monty

RP Rank: WO

Suggestion: Nerf the damage on the christmas weapon. it is the definition of pay to win in the way it one shots anyone whos stats dont total to atleast 500 (example: 300 hp 150 armor trooper gets one shot, 300hp 200 armor trooper doesnt). its extremely unfun for the general playerbase in PVP which is already in a dire state

Implementation: Nerf the damage down to 380. that makes it almost on par with the cycler while doing less damage to balance its faster fire rate bigger clip and splash damage on kill. 

 

 

Edited December 23, 2024 by Ccmonty

[Ccmonty 548]

Name: Monty

RP Rank: WO

Suggestion: Nerf the damage on the christmas weapon. it is the definition of pay to win in the way it one shots anyone whos stats dont total to atleast 500 (example: 300 hp 150 armor trooper gets one shot, 300hp 200 armor trooper doesnt). its extremely unfun for the general playerbase in PVP which is already in a dire state

Implementation: Nerf the damage down to 380. that makes it almost on par with the cycler while doing less damage to balance its faster fire rate bigger clip and splash damage on kill. 

 

 

Edited December 23, 2024 by Ccmonty

[Ryanx]

-1 As a GM it isnt a pain at all and Its fun to use, just dont miss

Edited December 23, 2024 by Ryanx

[Ryanx 46]

-1 As a GM it isnt a pain at all and Its fun to use, just dont miss

Edited December 23, 2024 by Ryanx

[Marvel]

+1 Totally against one shot weapons especially in the store.

[Marvel 3,308]

+1 Totally against one shot weapons especially in the store.

[WickedMpulse]

+1

[WickedMpulse 9]

+1

[Reborn]

-1 Personally I think its not a pain for GMs at all compared to other weapons on the store, I understand that it can be a pain in PVP but I feel like every time a new weapon comes out people all say that's its broken or useless and its hard to find a balance with the gun. I think right now its new so its gonna be used a lot the hype of it will die down and it wont be a problem within a few weeks to a month.

[Reborn 147]

-1 Personally I think its not a pain for GMs at all compared to other weapons on the store, I understand that it can be a pain in PVP but I feel like every time a new weapon comes out people all say that's its broken or useless and its hard to find a balance with the gun. I think right now its new so its gonna be used a lot the hype of it will die down and it wont be a problem within a few weeks to a month.

[Charles]

-1 No it was buffed for a reason after the first day of use.

[Charles 178]

-1 No it was buffed for a reason after the first day of use.

[Stryker]

1 minute ago, Reborn said:

-1 Personally I think its not a pain for GMs at all compared to other weapons on the store, I understand that it can be a pain in PVP but I feel like every time a new weapon comes out people all say that's its broken or useless and its hard to find a balance with the gun. I think right now its new so its gonna be used a lot the hype of it will die down and it wont be a problem within a few weeks to a month.

The damage reduction bypass against vehicles needs a nerf honestly. The one shooting people isn't an issue since you paid a 100 dollars but able to 1 tap a v wing is wild.

[Stryker 4]

1 minute ago, Reborn said:

-1 Personally I think its not a pain for GMs at all compared to other weapons on the store, I understand that it can be a pain in PVP but I feel like every time a new weapon comes out people all say that's its broken or useless and its hard to find a balance with the gun. I think right now its new so its gonna be used a lot the hype of it will die down and it wont be a problem within a few weeks to a month.

The damage reduction bypass against vehicles needs a nerf honestly. The one shooting people isn't an issue since you paid a 100 dollars but able to 1 tap a v wing is wild.

[Banagite]

+1 makes my NT useless. Its quite literally better than the NT which is 350 million credits. Nerf it. Please.

[Banagite 140]

+1 makes my NT useless. Its quite literally better than the NT which is 350 million credits. Nerf it. Please.

[Reborn]

 

2 minutes ago, Stryker said:

The damage reduction bypass against vehicles needs a nerf honestly. The one shooting people isn't an issue since you paid a 100 dollars but able to 1 tap a v wing is wild.

I do agree on that for sure that needs to be toned down

[Reborn 147]

 

2 minutes ago, Stryker said:

The damage reduction bypass against vehicles needs a nerf honestly. The one shooting people isn't an issue since you paid a 100 dollars but able to 1 tap a v wing is wild.

I do agree on that for sure that needs to be toned down

[Joyboy]

4 minutes ago, Stryker said:

The damage reduction bypass against vehicles needs a nerf honestly. The one shooting people isn't an issue since you paid a 100 dollars but able to 1 tap a v wing is wild.

This is the only part I agree with, the fact that it 3 shots TX is insane. Other than that, no nerf required.

[Joyboy 373]

4 minutes ago, Stryker said:

The damage reduction bypass against vehicles needs a nerf honestly. The one shooting people isn't an issue since you paid a 100 dollars but able to 1 tap a v wing is wild.

This is the only part I agree with, the fact that it 3 shots TX is insane. Other than that, no nerf required.

[Ccmonty]

I have upped the damage suggestion to 380, that makes it slightly less damage then  the cycler to compensate for the splash firerate and clip size

[Ccmonty 548]

I have upped the damage suggestion to 380, that makes it slightly less damage then  the cycler to compensate for the splash firerate and clip size

[Conrad]

7 minutes ago, Stryker said:

The damage reduction bypass against vehicles needs a nerf honestly. The one shooting people isn't an issue since you paid a 100 dollars but able to 1 tap a v wing is wild.

+1 so hard, seeing someone shoot a plane out of the sky with one bullet is insane. Something has to change with it for sure, it needs fine tuning.

[Conrad 2,465]

7 minutes ago, Stryker said:

The damage reduction bypass against vehicles needs a nerf honestly. The one shooting people isn't an issue since you paid a 100 dollars but able to 1 tap a v wing is wild.

+1 so hard, seeing someone shoot a plane out of the sky with one bullet is insane. Something has to change with it for sure, it needs fine tuning.

[LoFi]

-1 a sniper is meant literally put someone down 

[LoFi 41]

-1 a sniper is meant literally put someone down 

[Juggernaut]

5 minutes ago, LoFi said:

-1 a sniper is meant literally put someone down 

*cough* *cough* Dc-15x

on another note it still needs a resistance nerf

 

[Juggernaut 121]

5 minutes ago, LoFi said:

-1 a sniper is meant literally put someone down 

*cough* *cough* Dc-15x

on another note it still needs a resistance nerf

 

[Finn]

-1  If it's not an issue with GMs then I see no reason to nerf it.

 

Also I paid good money for an OP weapon I'd like it to stay OP

Edited December 23, 2024 by Finn

[Finn 730]

-1  If it's not an issue with GMs then I see no reason to nerf it.

 

Also I paid good money for an OP weapon I'd like it to stay OP

Edited December 23, 2024 by Finn

[BROPDROP]

-1 the excuse it makes PvP unfun in my eyes is silly because PvP is already so 1-sided to begin with, I could see the 1 shot to some ships and very few shots required for some other vehicles but most the people complaining about this gun are people who don’t have it. If you don’t wanna buy it cool but making it less fun for the people who did is weird

[BROPDROP 395]

-1 the excuse it makes PvP unfun in my eyes is silly because PvP is already so 1-sided to begin with, I could see the 1 shot to some ships and very few shots required for some other vehicles but most the people complaining about this gun are people who don’t have it. If you don’t wanna buy it cool but making it less fun for the people who did is weird

[Zeros]

+1

Tone it down but don't massacre it. It was still worth $100 but shouldn't be leagues above the other seasonal weapons.

[Zeros 315]

+1

Tone it down but don't massacre it. It was still worth $100 but shouldn't be leagues above the other seasonal weapons.

[jugh]

-1  the woke left is trying to take our weapons 

[jugh 145]

-1  the woke left is trying to take our weapons 

[Juggernaut]

17 minutes ago, BROPDROP said:

-1 the excuse it makes PvP unfun in my eyes is silly because PvP is already so 1-sided to begin with, I could see the 1 shot to some ships and very few shots required for some other vehicles but most the people complaining about this gun are people who don’t have it. If you don’t wanna buy it cool but making it less fun for the people who did is weird

so fun fact Im poor. Id love to have these fancy guns but normally I have my sugar Daddy A.K.A. Toga A.K.A. Plo Koon, buys the cool guns and I pay him back in creds but he cant afford anymore this month....

[Juggernaut 121]

17 minutes ago, BROPDROP said:

-1 the excuse it makes PvP unfun in my eyes is silly because PvP is already so 1-sided to begin with, I could see the 1 shot to some ships and very few shots required for some other vehicles but most the people complaining about this gun are people who don’t have it. If you don’t wanna buy it cool but making it less fun for the people who did is weird

so fun fact Im poor. Id love to have these fancy guns but normally I have my sugar Daddy A.K.A. Toga A.K.A. Plo Koon, buys the cool guns and I pay him back in creds but he cant afford anymore this month....

[BROPDROP]

2 minutes ago, jugh said:

-1  the woke left is trying to take our weapons 

We must stand strong Jugh they coming for them again

1 minute ago, Juggernaut said:

so fun fact Im poor. Id love to have these fancy guns but normally I have my sugar Daddy A.K.A. Toga A.K.A. Plo Koon, buys the cool guns and I pay him back in creds but he cant afford anymore this month....

Real

[BROPDROP 395]

2 minutes ago, jugh said:

-1  the woke left is trying to take our weapons 

We must stand strong Jugh they coming for them again

1 minute ago, Juggernaut said:

so fun fact Im poor. Id love to have these fancy guns but normally I have my sugar Daddy A.K.A. Toga A.K.A. Plo Koon, buys the cool guns and I pay him back in creds but he cant afford anymore this month....

Real

[Stryker]

2 minutes ago, Juggernaut said:

so fun fact Im poor. Id love to have these fancy guns but normally I have my sugar Daddy A.K.A. Toga A.K.A. Plo Koon, buys the cool guns and I pay him back in creds but he cant afford anymore this month....

Its because you don't say juggin time on demand for pimp daddy plo to reward you

[Stryker 4]

2 minutes ago, Juggernaut said:

so fun fact Im poor. Id love to have these fancy guns but normally I have my sugar Daddy A.K.A. Toga A.K.A. Plo Koon, buys the cool guns and I pay him back in creds but he cant afford anymore this month....

Its because you don't say juggin time on demand for pimp daddy plo to reward you

[Upset Saint]

-1 I spend 100 bucks for a limited item which can be taken away if you get banned or you are abusing it. If people are abusing the weapon it should be taken away from them it is written in the rules when you buy it. So if you see someone abusing it then report them it's that simple.

[Upset Saint 91]

-1 I spend 100 bucks for a limited item which can be taken away if you get banned or you are abusing it. If people are abusing the weapon it should be taken away from them it is written in the rules when you buy it. So if you see someone abusing it then report them it's that simple.

[Ryanx]

39 minutes ago, jugh said:

-1  the woke left is trying to take our weapons 

This is why this man got rex, so real

[Ryanx 46]

39 minutes ago, jugh said:

-1  the woke left is trying to take our weapons 

This is why this man got rex, so real

[Unclegennybee]

-1 This is America I will stand by my rights!!!

[Unclegennybee 97]

-1 This is America I will stand by my rights!!!

[Mystic]

2 hours ago, R3TR0FRU1T said:

-1 I spend 100 bucks for a limited item which can be taken away if you get banned or you are abusing it. If people are abusing the weapon it should be taken away from them it is written in the rules when you buy it. So if you see someone abusing it then report them it's that simple.

[Mystic 1,496]

2 hours ago, R3TR0FRU1T said:

-1 I spend 100 bucks for a limited item which can be taken away if you get banned or you are abusing it. If people are abusing the weapon it should be taken away from them it is written in the rules when you buy it. So if you see someone abusing it then report them it's that simple.

[KaiserNeiner]

-1 hello, GMD here. With droid HP being so high for large pop deployments, this actually makes droids killable. This is good! 

 

You can just ban the weapon from events. This has no bearing on a GM perspective with that being possible. If a GM bans the gun and the deployment was mid, it’s not because you banned the gun. 

 

PVP wise, skill issue. What, the unstoppable GAR with unlimited vehicles is having some issues against the small populous of bounty hunters? Find another way to kill them or RP a way out of the situation if you’re getting head glitched outside of MHB. I understand it’s not fun to die over and over again to this, but losing against a faction that always loses is not the end of the world. I promise you’ll probably win the next day. 

[KaiserNeiner 0]

-1 hello, GMD here. With droid HP being so high for large pop deployments, this actually makes droids killable. This is good! 

 

You can just ban the weapon from events. This has no bearing on a GM perspective with that being possible. If a GM bans the gun and the deployment was mid, it’s not because you banned the gun. 

 

PVP wise, skill issue. What, the unstoppable GAR with unlimited vehicles is having some issues against the small populous of bounty hunters? Find another way to kill them or RP a way out of the situation if you’re getting head glitched outside of MHB. I understand it’s not fun to die over and over again to this, but losing against a faction that always loses is not the end of the world. I promise you’ll probably win the next day. 

[Marvel]

My favorite past time is watching these broken $100 store weapons inevitably get nerfed and people realizing they may have wasted their money!

Jokes aside this is an RP server. There is absolutely no reason players should just be getting one tapped with no idea what could have possibly happened and absolutely no way to retaliate or survive. Sadly there are already perma weapons that are obtainable that do one shot but are so hard to acquire it equals out but you would be surprised how many people are willing to drop a hundred bucks on this server for a new weapon and now I can only imagine how many people probably have this gun.

We shouldn’t be basing weapon stats off main server deployments either. Our main concern should be how they play in an everyday event. As long as the civilian faction is as hostile as it is then maybe we should be taking in consideration how it plays in PVP. Nobody wants to get one tapped out of the blue.

It’s always the people with the busted weapon saying it’s fun and not to nerf it lmao like be fr. Or the classic “skill issue” like you didn’t just drop $100 on a GMOD server just to gain the upper hand 😭

I think it is absolutely so silly that GMs even have to ban specific weapons from their events. I hate how it’s come to that and how that’s just normal now. I hope now that the dev team is in a better position that future store guns will get properly tested before being added to the server because this exact same post happens every single time. 

[Marvel 3,308]

My favorite past time is watching these broken $100 store weapons inevitably get nerfed and people realizing they may have wasted their money!

Jokes aside this is an RP server. There is absolutely no reason players should just be getting one tapped with no idea what could have possibly happened and absolutely no way to retaliate or survive. Sadly there are already perma weapons that are obtainable that do one shot but are so hard to acquire it equals out but you would be surprised how many people are willing to drop a hundred bucks on this server for a new weapon and now I can only imagine how many people probably have this gun.

We shouldn’t be basing weapon stats off main server deployments either. Our main concern should be how they play in an everyday event. As long as the civilian faction is as hostile as it is then maybe we should be taking in consideration how it plays in PVP. Nobody wants to get one tapped out of the blue.

It’s always the people with the busted weapon saying it’s fun and not to nerf it lmao like be fr. Or the classic “skill issue” like you didn’t just drop $100 on a GMOD server just to gain the upper hand 😭

I think it is absolutely so silly that GMs even have to ban specific weapons from their events. I hate how it’s come to that and how that’s just normal now. I hope now that the dev team is in a better position that future store guns will get properly tested before being added to the server because this exact same post happens every single time. 

[KaiserNeiner]

3 minutes ago, Marvel said:

We shouldn’t be basing weapon stats off main server deployments either. Our main concern should be how they play in an everyday event. As long as the civilian faction is as hostile as it is then maybe we should be taking in consideration how it plays in PVP. Nobody wants to get one tapped out of the blue.

Main server deployments are every day events at this point 

[KaiserNeiner 0]

3 minutes ago, Marvel said:

We shouldn’t be basing weapon stats off main server deployments either. Our main concern should be how they play in an everyday event. As long as the civilian faction is as hostile as it is then maybe we should be taking in consideration how it plays in PVP. Nobody wants to get one tapped out of the blue.

Main server deployments are every day events at this point 

[SquishyFishyy]

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This gun is insanely overpowered and for those saying that its worth 100 dollars. The 25 mil cycler rifle is worth more in credits and just got phased out by this christmas sniper.

36 minutes ago, KaiserNeiner said:

-1 hello, GMD here. With droid HP being so high for large pop deployments, this actually makes droids killable. This is good! 

The sniper actually makes droids killable? What about the rest of the population that doesnt have it... were just meant to sit here and twiddle our thumbs till credit card craig comes over to even the playing field?

[SquishyFishyy 62]

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This gun is insanely overpowered and for those saying that its worth 100 dollars. The 25 mil cycler rifle is worth more in credits and just got phased out by this christmas sniper.

36 minutes ago, KaiserNeiner said:

-1 hello, GMD here. With droid HP being so high for large pop deployments, this actually makes droids killable. This is good! 

The sniper actually makes droids killable? What about the rest of the population that doesnt have it... were just meant to sit here and twiddle our thumbs till credit card craig comes over to even the playing field?

[KaiserNeiner]

27 minutes ago, SquishyFishyy said:

The sniper actually makes droids killable? What about the rest of the population that doesnt have it... were just meant to sit here and twiddle our thumbs till credit card craig comes over to even the playing field?

What a pessimistic mindset on issues you overcome. Isn’t the whole point of SOBDE to handle challenges? 

 

Idk maybe fly over the droids with Nulls jetpack, or team fire with other squad members? I’m sure we can put our heads together to find solutions to these problems rather that complaining about them! 

[KaiserNeiner 0]

27 minutes ago, SquishyFishyy said:

The sniper actually makes droids killable? What about the rest of the population that doesnt have it... were just meant to sit here and twiddle our thumbs till credit card craig comes over to even the playing field?

What a pessimistic mindset on issues you overcome. Isn’t the whole point of SOBDE to handle challenges? 

 

Idk maybe fly over the droids with Nulls jetpack, or team fire with other squad members? I’m sure we can put our heads together to find solutions to these problems rather that complaining about them! 

[SquishyFishyy]

1 minute ago, KaiserNeiner said:

What a pessimistic mindset on issues you overcome.

you literally stated that with high health on the droids it makes droids killable. I even quoted you so nothing was taken out of context. How was that a pessimistic mindset? 

 

35 minutes ago, SquishyFishyy said:

-1 hello, GMD here. With droid HP being so high for large pop deployments, this actually makes droids killable. This is good! 

literally what you said.

2 minutes ago, KaiserNeiner said:

Idk maybe fly over the droids with Nulls jetpack

Also flying over droids with jetpack is an AWFUL idea it activates all the NPCs you fly over and now we just have way more droids shooting making things harder.

 

 

[SquishyFishyy 62]

1 minute ago, KaiserNeiner said:

What a pessimistic mindset on issues you overcome.

you literally stated that with high health on the droids it makes droids killable. I even quoted you so nothing was taken out of context. How was that a pessimistic mindset? 

 

35 minutes ago, SquishyFishyy said:

-1 hello, GMD here. With droid HP being so high for large pop deployments, this actually makes droids killable. This is good! 

literally what you said.

2 minutes ago, KaiserNeiner said:

Idk maybe fly over the droids with Nulls jetpack

Also flying over droids with jetpack is an AWFUL idea it activates all the NPCs you fly over and now we just have way more droids shooting making things harder.

 

 

[Art]

-1 they made the gun broken after the first day release. It was made for people who wants to buy the gun/ Support the server at the same time. nerfing a gun just because people are mad their in game bought 25 mil or even the stupid 350 million sniper is now not the best is dumb since the last weapon they dropped did twice the damage as the 500 mil pistols. If you are not happy with the weapon complain in OOC when you die to it

[Art 7]

-1 they made the gun broken after the first day release. It was made for people who wants to buy the gun/ Support the server at the same time. nerfing a gun just because people are mad their in game bought 25 mil or even the stupid 350 million sniper is now not the best is dumb since the last weapon they dropped did twice the damage as the 500 mil pistols. If you are not happy with the weapon complain in OOC when you die to it

[KaiserNeiner]

Just now, SquishyFishyy said:

you literally stated that with high health on the droids it makes droids killable. I even quoted you so nothing was taken out of context. How was that a pessimistic mindset? 

 

literally what you said.

Also flying over droids with jetpack is an AWFUL idea it activates all the NPCs you fly over and now we just have way more droids shooting making things harder.

 

 

“Wait and twiddle our thumbs” and “wait for credit card Craig” aren’t exactly phrases to use when you’re trying to have a constructive conversation. This is getting off topic though, I just hope that good guns discourage people from trying when they don’t have em. 

[KaiserNeiner 0]

Just now, SquishyFishyy said:

you literally stated that with high health on the droids it makes droids killable. I even quoted you so nothing was taken out of context. How was that a pessimistic mindset? 

 

literally what you said.

Also flying over droids with jetpack is an AWFUL idea it activates all the NPCs you fly over and now we just have way more droids shooting making things harder.

 

 

“Wait and twiddle our thumbs” and “wait for credit card Craig” aren’t exactly phrases to use when you’re trying to have a constructive conversation. This is getting off topic though, I just hope that good guns discourage people from trying when they don’t have em. 

[Marvel]

37 minutes ago, SquishyFishyy said:

credit card craig comes over to even the playing field?

I don’t think Craig is coming back…

[Marvel 3,308]

37 minutes ago, SquishyFishyy said:

credit card craig comes over to even the playing field?

I don’t think Craig is coming back…

[shroud]

-1 forgot to add this

 

i’m on phone looking at this so it’s hard to quote people. this is directly towards squishy.

 

youre in null. arguably one of the best squads on server with an OP kit. complaining about this sniper in your case doesnt make any sense. you have a jet pack and a westar to counteract pretty much everyone and everything on the server.

 

the sniper actually makes deployments and events playable when they drop down to 2 fps. it doesn’t need to be nerfed, mostly everyone had the same argument about the dc-17 pistols and now no-one talks about it. it’s the same thing with this sniper

Edited December 24, 2024 by shroud

[shroud 174]

-1 forgot to add this

 

i’m on phone looking at this so it’s hard to quote people. this is directly towards squishy.

 

youre in null. arguably one of the best squads on server with an OP kit. complaining about this sniper in your case doesnt make any sense. you have a jet pack and a westar to counteract pretty much everyone and everything on the server.

 

the sniper actually makes deployments and events playable when they drop down to 2 fps. it doesn’t need to be nerfed, mostly everyone had the same argument about the dc-17 pistols and now no-one talks about it. it’s the same thing with this sniper

Edited December 24, 2024 by shroud

[jugh]

43 minutes ago, SquishyFishyy said:

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This gun is insanely overpowered and for those saying that its worth 100 dollars. The 25 mil cycler rifle is worth more in credits and just got phased out by this christmas sniper.

The sniper actually makes droids killable? What about the rest of the population that doesnt have it... were just meant to sit here and twiddle our thumbs till credit card craig comes over to even the playing field?

This is a pretty dumb point to take it comes down to the GM's  to ban it. Gm's can ban whatever they want and it solves the problem no point in nerfing it. -1

Edited December 24, 2024 by jugh

[jugh 145]

43 minutes ago, SquishyFishyy said:

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This gun is insanely overpowered and for those saying that its worth 100 dollars. The 25 mil cycler rifle is worth more in credits and just got phased out by this christmas sniper.

The sniper actually makes droids killable? What about the rest of the population that doesnt have it... were just meant to sit here and twiddle our thumbs till credit card craig comes over to even the playing field?

This is a pretty dumb point to take it comes down to the GM's  to ban it. Gm's can ban whatever they want and it solves the problem no point in nerfing it. -1

Edited December 24, 2024 by jugh

[KnightVR]

-1

[KnightVR 140]

-1

[Banagite]

If we keep the sniper the same let me sell my NT back for 350mil. Thanks

[Banagite 140]

If we keep the sniper the same let me sell my NT back for 350mil. Thanks

[Charles]

2 hours ago, SquishyFishyy said:

 

Also flying over droids with jetpack is an AWFUL idea it activates all the NPCs you fly over and now we just have way more droids shooting making things harder.

 

 

If you fly high enough.. it doesn’t macro onto you… This is just a poor excuse for a solution to easily kill NPCs. 

[Charles 178]

2 hours ago, SquishyFishyy said:

 

Also flying over droids with jetpack is an AWFUL idea it activates all the NPCs you fly over and now we just have way more droids shooting making things harder.

 

 

If you fly high enough.. it doesn’t macro onto you… This is just a poor excuse for a solution to easily kill NPCs. 

[Joyboy]

58 minutes ago, Banagite said:

If we keep the sniper the same let me sell my NT back for 350mil. Thanks

-1

[Joyboy 373]

58 minutes ago, Banagite said:

If we keep the sniper the same let me sell my NT back for 350mil. Thanks

-1

[Kaner]

-1, I joined this community in June. I have yet to see a 100 dollar weapon that is truly impossible to balance around as a GM. It isn't a pain and GMs have complete control over what is used in their events and can request SA+ to AOS anyone who breaks those rules for FailRP, or RAOS them their selves. This feels like a lack of reading the rules and how to properly address these situations as opposed to an actual concern

[Kaner 61]

-1, I joined this community in June. I have yet to see a 100 dollar weapon that is truly impossible to balance around as a GM. It isn't a pain and GMs have complete control over what is used in their events and can request SA+ to AOS anyone who breaks those rules for FailRP, or RAOS them their selves. This feels like a lack of reading the rules and how to properly address these situations as opposed to an actual concern

[Stryker]

11 hours ago, shroud said:

-1 forgot to add this

 

i’m on phone looking at this so it’s hard to quote people. this is directly towards squishy.

 

youre in null. arguably one of the best squads on server with an OP kit. complaining about this sniper in your case doesnt make any sense. you have a jet pack and a westar to counteract pretty much everyone and everything on the server.

 

the sniper actually makes deployments and events playable when they drop down to 2 fps. it doesn’t need to be nerfed, mostly everyone had the same argument about the dc-17 pistols and now no-one talks about it. it’s the same thing with this sniper

Everyone talks about the pistols its why they are nerfing them, the supercharged pistols are cancer to deal with. If you can only get them at a certain time for cheap then its unfair for future players who join at a future time. Same with the fire shotgun, that's not off the table to nerf.

[Stryker 4]

11 hours ago, shroud said:

-1 forgot to add this

 

i’m on phone looking at this so it’s hard to quote people. this is directly towards squishy.

 

youre in null. arguably one of the best squads on server with an OP kit. complaining about this sniper in your case doesnt make any sense. you have a jet pack and a westar to counteract pretty much everyone and everything on the server.

 

the sniper actually makes deployments and events playable when they drop down to 2 fps. it doesn’t need to be nerfed, mostly everyone had the same argument about the dc-17 pistols and now no-one talks about it. it’s the same thing with this sniper

Everyone talks about the pistols its why they are nerfing them, the supercharged pistols are cancer to deal with. If you can only get them at a certain time for cheap then its unfair for future players who join at a future time. Same with the fire shotgun, that's not off the table to nerf.

[Ajax-Evo]

-1 players spend alot to have a good weapon. Why take that from them

[Ajax-Evo 98]

-1 players spend alot to have a good weapon. Why take that from them

[shroud]

15 hours ago, Stryker said:

Everyone talks about the pistols its why they are nerfing them, the supercharged pistols are cancer to deal with. If you can only get them at a certain time for cheap then its unfair for future players who join at a future time. Same with the fire shotgun, that's not off the table to nerf.

i guess 100 dollars is cheap now.

anyway. if they were going to nerf either of those, it wouldve happened by now. Making this argument is dumb, considering weapons like the mando rifle and the kyber rifle are on the server. 

[shroud 174]

15 hours ago, Stryker said:

Everyone talks about the pistols its why they are nerfing them, the supercharged pistols are cancer to deal with. If you can only get them at a certain time for cheap then its unfair for future players who join at a future time. Same with the fire shotgun, that's not off the table to nerf.

i guess 100 dollars is cheap now.

anyway. if they were going to nerf either of those, it wouldve happened by now. Making this argument is dumb, considering weapons like the mando rifle and the kyber rifle are on the server. 

[Stryker]

5 hours ago, shroud said:

i guess 100 dollars is cheap now.

anyway. if they were going to nerf either of those, it wouldve happened by now. Making this argument is dumb, considering weapons like the mando rifle and the kyber rifle are on the server. 

The cycler rifle doesn't one shot most players, the christmas sniper does it to everyone except Wolfpack and 2ndAC. They are nerfing the pistols, Jayarr already stated that and the fire shotgun nerf isn't off the table its on their radar. One person has the kyber rifle, 600 million credits > 100 dollars. Its like 3k dollars for that item. Majority of people with the pistols want them nerfed because they trivialize most things.

[Stryker 4]

5 hours ago, shroud said:

i guess 100 dollars is cheap now.

anyway. if they were going to nerf either of those, it wouldve happened by now. Making this argument is dumb, considering weapons like the mando rifle and the kyber rifle are on the server. 

The cycler rifle doesn't one shot most players, the christmas sniper does it to everyone except Wolfpack and 2ndAC. They are nerfing the pistols, Jayarr already stated that and the fire shotgun nerf isn't off the table its on their radar. One person has the kyber rifle, 600 million credits > 100 dollars. Its like 3k dollars for that item. Majority of people with the pistols want them nerfed because they trivialize most things.

[KaiserNeiner]

1 hour ago, Stryker said:

The cycler rifle doesn't one shot most players, the christmas sniper does it to everyone except Wolfpack and 2ndAC. They are nerfing the pistols, Jayarr already stated that and the fire shotgun nerf isn't off the table its on their radar. One person has the kyber rifle, 600 million credits > 100 dollars. Its like 3k dollars for that item. Majority of people with the pistols want them nerfed because they trivialize most things.

Fire shotgun already got nerfed. Where do you see that people who have the pistols want it nerfed? Seems the opposite is happening from this post, as almost all the -1s are from people who have the rifle and +1s from people who couldn’t get it. 

[KaiserNeiner 0]

1 hour ago, Stryker said:

The cycler rifle doesn't one shot most players, the christmas sniper does it to everyone except Wolfpack and 2ndAC. They are nerfing the pistols, Jayarr already stated that and the fire shotgun nerf isn't off the table its on their radar. One person has the kyber rifle, 600 million credits > 100 dollars. Its like 3k dollars for that item. Majority of people with the pistols want them nerfed because they trivialize most things.

Fire shotgun already got nerfed. Where do you see that people who have the pistols want it nerfed? Seems the opposite is happening from this post, as almost all the -1s are from people who have the rifle and +1s from people who couldn’t get it. 

[Stryker]

57 minutes ago, KaiserNeiner said:

Fire shotgun already got nerfed. Where do you see that people who have the pistols want it nerfed? Seems the opposite is happening from this post, as almost all the -1s are from people who have the rifle and +1s from people who couldn’t get it. 

Tons of +1s from people that have it and say its ridiculous, a weapon that one shots aircraft shouldn't be allowed. I know plenty of people who have the pistols that say they are a crazy weapon. Power creep is a real thing and makes people unable to fully enjoy the game, having weapons from before no longer available and one that just trumps them all isn't a good strategy.

[Stryker 4]

57 minutes ago, KaiserNeiner said:

Fire shotgun already got nerfed. Where do you see that people who have the pistols want it nerfed? Seems the opposite is happening from this post, as almost all the -1s are from people who have the rifle and +1s from people who couldn’t get it. 

Tons of +1s from people that have it and say its ridiculous, a weapon that one shots aircraft shouldn't be allowed. I know plenty of people who have the pistols that say they are a crazy weapon. Power creep is a real thing and makes people unable to fully enjoy the game, having weapons from before no longer available and one that just trumps them all isn't a good strategy.

[Juggernaut]

On 12/23/2024 at 9:53 PM, KaiserNeiner said:

PVP wise, skill issue. What, the unstoppable GAR with unlimited vehicles is having some issues against the small populous of bounty hunters? Find another way to kill them or RP a way out of the situation if you’re getting head glitched outside of MHB. I understand it’s not fun to die over and over again to this, but losing against a faction that always loses is not the end of the world. I promise you’ll probably win the next day. 

Womp womp! Use the Black market with all your Renown Im sure they Have Rocket launchers in there and isnt Renown something you want to be relevant again? 

Edited December 25, 2024 by Juggernaut

[Juggernaut 121]

On 12/23/2024 at 9:53 PM, KaiserNeiner said:

PVP wise, skill issue. What, the unstoppable GAR with unlimited vehicles is having some issues against the small populous of bounty hunters? Find another way to kill them or RP a way out of the situation if you’re getting head glitched outside of MHB. I understand it’s not fun to die over and over again to this, but losing against a faction that always loses is not the end of the world. I promise you’ll probably win the next day. 

Womp womp! Use the Black market with all your Renown Im sure they Have Rocket launchers in there and isnt Renown something you want to be relevant again? 

Edited December 25, 2024 by Juggernaut

[Moose_Wundo]

-1 The same conversation happened when the pistols got released.

It still takes skill to use, ive not got it and I am unable to get it, but ive still managed to outgun a lot of people trying to use it!

 

[Moose_Wundo 214]

-1 The same conversation happened when the pistols got released.

It still takes skill to use, ive not got it and I am unable to get it, but ive still managed to outgun a lot of people trying to use it!

 

[Juggernaut]

36 minutes ago, Moose_Wundo said:

-1 The same conversation happened when the pistols got released.

It still takes skill to use, ive not got it and I am unable to get it, but ive still managed to outgun a lot of people trying to use it!

 

I live by the belief that if a sniper takes more then one shot to kill a MAN its a shitty sniper however if the sniper can kill vehicles it needs a nerf Anti-tank rifles were massive in the WWs but they quickly got outclassed by RPGs and other heavy artillery style weapons. that is all I want nerfed no more weapons that can just solo a Tank 

[Juggernaut 121]

36 minutes ago, Moose_Wundo said:

-1 The same conversation happened when the pistols got released.

It still takes skill to use, ive not got it and I am unable to get it, but ive still managed to outgun a lot of people trying to use it!

 

I live by the belief that if a sniper takes more then one shot to kill a MAN its a shitty sniper however if the sniper can kill vehicles it needs a nerf Anti-tank rifles were massive in the WWs but they quickly got outclassed by RPGs and other heavy artillery style weapons. that is all I want nerfed no more weapons that can just solo a Tank 

[Bane]

+1. Heavily against one shot weapons.

[Bane 232]

+1. Heavily against one shot weapons.

[Zensras]

On 12/23/2024 at 8:53 PM, KaiserNeiner said:

. With droid HP being so high for large pop deployments, this actually makes droids killable.

Droid HP for events never used to be this high until store-bought weapons came into play.   It used to be normally 400-500.   It was the only way to make it harder for people with them, so they didn't clear entire deployments themselves.  People used always to joke that the only people who would buy store weapons were Brooklyn and several others who literally threw money at the server.  

 

I don't think we need to nerf it to the ground, but it does need some adjusting along with some of the perma weapons from the armory.  Many of them feel weak.   The store-bought weapons are already unique as it is compared to kit weapons and perma weapons so it shouldn't be a problem.   

Edited December 27, 2024 by Zensras

[Zensras 239]

On 12/23/2024 at 8:53 PM, KaiserNeiner said:

. With droid HP being so high for large pop deployments, this actually makes droids killable.

Droid HP for events never used to be this high until store-bought weapons came into play.   It used to be normally 400-500.   It was the only way to make it harder for people with them, so they didn't clear entire deployments themselves.  People used always to joke that the only people who would buy store weapons were Brooklyn and several others who literally threw money at the server.  

 

I don't think we need to nerf it to the ground, but it does need some adjusting along with some of the perma weapons from the armory.  Many of them feel weak.   The store-bought weapons are already unique as it is compared to kit weapons and perma weapons so it shouldn't be a problem.   

Edited December 27, 2024 by Zensras

[WarMaster]

Im +1 for nerfing against vehicles I think 1 shotting a v-wing or 9 shotting a Laat is insane but against players damage -1 I think its a sniper its supposed to do alot of damage let it do alot of damage. 

[WarMaster 195]

Im +1 for nerfing against vehicles I think 1 shotting a v-wing or 9 shotting a Laat is insane but against players damage -1 I think its a sniper its supposed to do alot of damage let it do alot of damage. 

[Terry]

On 12/23/2024 at 6:30 PM, Banagite said:

+1 makes my NT useless. Its quite literally better than the NT which is 350 million credits. Nerf it. Please.

350 milly that you begged and grifted from others whereas i spent 100 real life US dollars on the dc17m.

[Terry 17]

On 12/23/2024 at 6:30 PM, Banagite said:

+1 makes my NT useless. Its quite literally better than the NT which is 350 million credits. Nerf it. Please.

350 milly that you begged and grifted from others whereas i spent 100 real life US dollars on the dc17m.

[Artemis]

+1
 

As a old returning player, coming back to see a 100 dollar weapon that does a bazillion damage is insane to me and something I cannot really wrap my head around. In the old days you would get iconic looking weapons that weren't 100 dollars and had decent stats for their price value. They were also realistic stats. You wouldn't be able to one shot vehicles, npcs, or people. You would, at max, 3 shot them if anything with a sniper. There was never a time where weapons cost 350 million. Back in the day, some weapons at maximum costed 10 million. The most coveted sniper was the IQA-11 at that price (if I recall correctly). It still didn't one shot players.

If we are considering adding hostile factions, thus the implementation of PVP, we should curb the idea of extremely overpowered guns that can one shot people regardless. Banning weapons during events or activities is also strange because you are actively denying someone who has paid for a weapon that they have expected to be able to use for any activity. There are several cons to each side here, but I think for the server's integrity, no longer releasing extremely over tuned weapons is the play here. They should have realistic stats and compare to the weapons in the perma shop that cost several millions. Instead of overtuning stats, I think making holiday skins for the weapons and selling them will still turn a profit for you if you cannot release OP weapons. You could also make variants of weapons that have quirks, like how the Christmas Sniper has a after effect when you kill something. You could even add small modifiers to variants like fire damage, paralytics, corrosion, etc. But obviously, very realistic stats (compared to the perma weapon shop).

From my perspective, when I re-joined and had to start from square one (I had no money, and I lost all my perma weapons from so long ago. Which was expected.) and rebuild what I had from before. Rebuilding was rather easy from my rather... lucrative business deals, and the support of older friends who have spare money to give me. I noticed the existence of the Christmas Sniper, and during a PVP event with the 501st and Bounty Hunters, the BH's were using the sniper to one shot us. I was "new" to the current server's state of affairs and if I was truly new to starwars RP, something like this would of instantly turned me off from participating. It's not fun doing no damage to other people with your default weapons, but then getting instantly 1 shot by someone else who has the sniper. You can't retaliate, you cant respond, and by the time that you do "respond" you're already dead. People can call it "skill issue" all they want, but it isn't. It's a silly response to an underlying problem that does need to be solved.

"But it's a Sniper, Arti!!!" Yes, it's a sniper designed to one shot people. Great, we should also tune the other sniper rifles like the NT242, DC15X, and the Cycler Rifle (which disintegrates people into flesh puddles) to also one shot people! I'm sure that'll go well in the long run with everyone running a sniper and the PVP experience just devolving to "who sees who first". It'll become a huge mess with no solution in sight other than to debuff all of them to actually reasonable damage numbers where people can actually use their "skill" to kill other players.

I think I yapped enough here.

[Artemis 9]

+1
 

As a old returning player, coming back to see a 100 dollar weapon that does a bazillion damage is insane to me and something I cannot really wrap my head around. In the old days you would get iconic looking weapons that weren't 100 dollars and had decent stats for their price value. They were also realistic stats. You wouldn't be able to one shot vehicles, npcs, or people. You would, at max, 3 shot them if anything with a sniper. There was never a time where weapons cost 350 million. Back in the day, some weapons at maximum costed 10 million. The most coveted sniper was the IQA-11 at that price (if I recall correctly). It still didn't one shot players.

If we are considering adding hostile factions, thus the implementation of PVP, we should curb the idea of extremely overpowered guns that can one shot people regardless. Banning weapons during events or activities is also strange because you are actively denying someone who has paid for a weapon that they have expected to be able to use for any activity. There are several cons to each side here, but I think for the server's integrity, no longer releasing extremely over tuned weapons is the play here. They should have realistic stats and compare to the weapons in the perma shop that cost several millions. Instead of overtuning stats, I think making holiday skins for the weapons and selling them will still turn a profit for you if you cannot release OP weapons. You could also make variants of weapons that have quirks, like how the Christmas Sniper has a after effect when you kill something. You could even add small modifiers to variants like fire damage, paralytics, corrosion, etc. But obviously, very realistic stats (compared to the perma weapon shop).

From my perspective, when I re-joined and had to start from square one (I had no money, and I lost all my perma weapons from so long ago. Which was expected.) and rebuild what I had from before. Rebuilding was rather easy from my rather... lucrative business deals, and the support of older friends who have spare money to give me. I noticed the existence of the Christmas Sniper, and during a PVP event with the 501st and Bounty Hunters, the BH's were using the sniper to one shot us. I was "new" to the current server's state of affairs and if I was truly new to starwars RP, something like this would of instantly turned me off from participating. It's not fun doing no damage to other people with your default weapons, but then getting instantly 1 shot by someone else who has the sniper. You can't retaliate, you cant respond, and by the time that you do "respond" you're already dead. People can call it "skill issue" all they want, but it isn't. It's a silly response to an underlying problem that does need to be solved.

"But it's a Sniper, Arti!!!" Yes, it's a sniper designed to one shot people. Great, we should also tune the other sniper rifles like the NT242, DC15X, and the Cycler Rifle (which disintegrates people into flesh puddles) to also one shot people! I'm sure that'll go well in the long run with everyone running a sniper and the PVP experience just devolving to "who sees who first". It'll become a huge mess with no solution in sight other than to debuff all of them to actually reasonable damage numbers where people can actually use their "skill" to kill other players.

I think I yapped enough here.

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