KaiserNeiner Posted April 25 Head Admin Report Share Posted April 25 (edited) Name: Kaiser RP Rank: BCMD Fox Suggestion: Fully redo Diplomatic Services with new regimental slots in the subunit and a kit tweak. Implementation: Oh boy. This suggestion is to shift the Diplomatic Service Trooper job and rename it to Diplomatic Services Combat, along with adding DS MED and DS SUP. This is also giving the DS Combat job a Z-6 to act as the subunit's "Heavies" and add an additional weapon, the DC15LE (Original), a scoped variation of the DC15A, to all DS jobs including lore positions. This suggestion also includes a slight kit buff to the Diplomatic Services Stone job, as he is the lead spot for it and the kit is currently horrid. For models, we would keep the same DS Trooper models we have for the Combat job, and would siphon 3 models from the CG MED whitelist and 4 from the CG SUP whitelist. Alternatively, DS would be more than happy to accept the Westar M-5 instead of the DC15LE if that is deemed unnecessary. Lore: N/A Workshop content if applicable: Requires Development (If no workshop content, suggest a developer or put "Require Development") If you are asking to add or change a job, fill out the following if not, leave it out. Add or Change: Change (Any job modification requires all this information) Job: Diplomatic Service Mack, Diplomatic Service Thire, Diplomatic Service Thorn, Diplomatic Service Rys, Diplomatic Service Jek Slots: N/A Description: N/A Model: N/A (Provide the model string if on server Ex. models/player/synergy/cblake/ls_squad/ls_trp/lstrp.mdl (Get this from the Q menu) Weapons: rw_sw_dc15le_o (rw_sw_westarm5 if no DC15LE) (If you want a modfication to a weapon/saber you must put the weapon string in the suggestion. Ex. tfa_e5 (Get this from the Q menu)) Add or Change: Change (Any job modification requires all this information) Job: Diplomatic Service Stone Slots: 1 Description: N/A Model: models/synergy_roleplay/cga/stone/stone.mdl (Provide the model string if on server Ex. models/player/synergy/cblake/ls_squad/ls_trp/lstrp.mdl (Get this from the Q menu) Weapons: weapon_hands, weapon_policebaton, rw_sw_dc15a_o, rw_sw_dc15s, rw_sw_dc15le_o, rw_sw_dp24, comlink_swep, deployable_shield, rw_sw_stun_dc15s, rw_sw_dual_dc17, tfa_chaingun_ferty (rw_sw_westarm5 if no DC15LE) (If you want a modfication to a weapon/saber you must put the weapon string in the suggestion. Ex. tfa_e5 (Get this from the Q menu)) Add or Change: Change (Any job modification requires all this information) Job: Diplomatic Service Trooper -> Diplomatic Service Combat Slots: 7 Description: Diplomatic Services Heavy style trooper. Model: models/synergy_roleplay/cga/trooper_ds/trooper_ds.mdl (Provide the model string if on server Ex. models/player/synergy/cblake/ls_squad/ls_trp/lstrp.mdl (Get this from the Q menu) Weapons: weapon_hands, weapon_policebaton, rw_sw_dc15a_o, rw_sw_dc15s, rw_sw_dc15le_o, rw_sw_dp24, comlink_swep, deployable_shield, rw_sw_z6 (rw_sw_westarm5 if no DC15LE) (If you want a modfication to a weapon/saber you must put the weapon string in the suggestion. Ex. tfa_e5 (Get this from the Q menu)) Add or Change: Change (Any job modification requires all this information) Job: Coruscant Guard Medical Trooper Slots: N/A Description: N/A Model: models/synergy_roleplay/cga/medic/medic.mdl, models/synergy_roleplay/cga/officer_medic/officer_medic.mdl (Remove skins 6, 7, 8) (Provide the model string if on server Ex. models/player/synergy/cblake/ls_squad/ls_trp/lstrp.mdl (Get this from the Q menu) Weapons: N/A (If you want a modfication to a weapon/saber you must put the weapon string in the suggestion. Ex. tfa_e5 (Get this from the Q menu)) Add or Change: Add (Any job modification requires all this information) Job: Diplomatic Service Medic Slots: 7 Description: Diplomatic Services Medic style trooper. Model: models/synergy_roleplay/cga/medic/medic.mdl, models/synergy_roleplay/cga/officer_medic/officer_medic.mdl (Add skins 6, 7, 8) (Provide the model string if on server Ex. models/player/synergy/cblake/ls_squad/ls_trp/lstrp.mdl (Get this from the Q menu) Weapons: weapon_hands, weapon_policebaton, rw_sw_dc15a_o, rw_sw_dc15s, rw_sw_dc15le_o, rw_sw_dp24, comlink_swep, deployable_shield, weapon_bactakit, rust_syringe (rw_sw_westarm5 if no DC15LE) (If you want a modfication to a weapon/saber you must put the weapon string in the suggestion. Ex. tfa_e5 (Get this from the Q menu)) Add or Change: Change (Any job modification requires all this information) Job: Coruscant Guard Pilot Slots: N/A Description: N/A Model: models/synergy_roleplay/cga/pilot/pilot.mdl, models/synergy_roleplay/cga/officer_pilot/officer_pilot.mdl, models/synergy_roleplay/cga/arc_pilot/arc_pilot.mdl (Remove skins 1, 4, 6, 7) (Provide the model string if on server Ex. models/player/synergy/cblake/ls_squad/ls_trp/lstrp.mdl (Get this from the Q menu) Weapons: N/A (If you want a modfication to a weapon/saber you must put the weapon string in the suggestion. Ex. tfa_e5 (Get this from the Q menu)) Add or Change: Add (Any job modification requires all this information) Job: Diplomatic Service Pilot Slots: 7 Description: Diplomatic Services Support style trooper. Model: models/synergy_roleplay/cga/pilot/pilot.mdl, models/synergy_roleplay/cga/officer_pilot/officer_pilot.mdl, models/synergy_roleplay/cga/arc_pilot/arc_pilot.mdl (Add skins 1, 4, 6, 7) (Provide the model string if on server Ex. models/player/synergy/cblake/ls_squad/ls_trp/lstrp.mdl (Get this from the Q menu) Weapons: weapon_hands, weapon_policebaton, rw_sw_dc15a_o, rw_sw_dc15s, rw_sw_dc15le_o, rw_sw_dp24, comlink_swep, deployable_shield, rw_sw_dc17ext, rw_sw_dp23, alydus_fusioncutter (rw_sw_westarm5 if no DC15LE) (Ability to drop armor) (If you want a modfication to a weapon/saber you must put the weapon string in the suggestion. Ex. tfa_e5 (Get this from the Q menu)) Other: Yeah so uh quick heads up the DS kit right now is the DP24 and the shield and that's all! It's pretty horrid :) With the re-addition of Senate Guard to the server, DS has fully shifted away from guarding senators unless needed and has taken up a SWAT/QRF style role within the battalion. Improving weapons and opening up regimental slots to then further limit the slots will improve the abilities of our "elite" subunit within Coruscant Guard. I am full aware that we have a DS models suggestion in the Accepted phase, but models can sometimes take a long time and this is an attempt to make a solid and swift improvement and build on this subunit. This is why we're attempting to reuse current CG models and just take them from the base jobs and put them on the new whitelists. Edited April 26 by KaiserNeiner included stun gun in Stone's kit (already is in it) Kaiser Zeros Clutch Link to comment
Arizona Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 (edited) Stone is just a DS trooper with a pauldron bro needs a serious buff. Shields still do not work and we still dont have an ETA on a fix or if a fix is even possible. DS is so behind the rest of the server its not even funny people arent even aware. A revamp was needed 20mins after DS was introduced into the server and the fact that it took this long is insane. These changes would do wonders to catch up to the rest of the server in terms of meta and PVP especially with DS moving toward an SWAT/BH PVP style of play this would help catch us up in a big way. +1 First Edited April 25 by Arizona Link to comment
Mystic Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 +1 for the 15LE -1 for the Westar. CG would be the first and only battalion to effectively give Westars to all their Lore Characters. Otherwise i see no issues with this suggestion. Looks like a good revamp imo 1 Report Longest Special Operations Member on the server. Current: Mace Windu Former: Cin Drallig l First Yayax Squad Yover l Foxtrot Commando l 2nd GM BCMD Bacara l Serra Keto l Final SO Commander Jet l First & Last Devil Dogs Deadeye l Veteran Admin l Jedi General Plo Koon l 2nd Returning SO CMD Jet l Luminara Unduli l Wolfpack MAJ Boost l Kit Fisto l Trauma's Unit MED Mystic l Jedi Military Advisor l Omega 36 PVT Darman l High General Shaak Ti l Jedi Chief Instructor l Alpha 98 Nate l Actually Private Crosshair Link to comment
Senja Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 Thoughtful suggestion, feel like this could be a great addition. Changes would allow it so DS is up to date with the server itself and other regiments +Support Link to comment
KaiserNeiner Posted April 25 Head Admin Author Report Share Posted April 25 8 minutes ago, Mystic said: +1 for the 15LE -1 for the Westar. CG would be the first and only battalion to effectively give Westars to all their Lore Characters. Otherwise i see no issues with this suggestion. Looks like a good revamp imo We would prefer the 15ALE due to the rare occurrences of CG troopers using anything other than standard issue weapons (these look pretty close to regular DC15A's) but at this point man I'm just trying to get something) Kaiser Zeros Clutch Link to comment
Witchita Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 +1 New to DS But Can See They Need Changes Link to comment
Arizona Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Mystic said: +1 for the 15LE -1 for the Westar. CG would be the first and only battalion to effectively give Westars to all their Lore Characters. Otherwise i see no issues with this suggestion. Looks like a good revamp imo Love me the 15LE but I would also like to say that the only lore characters that would have westars AFTER the change would be Fox, Thire and stone no other Lore characters currently have a westar and only 1 lore character would get one if this went through. both the 15LE and the westar are great weapons to have just want to make sure we’re on the same page with what DS lore characters currently have <3 Only including named jobbed characters ofc Edited April 25 by Arizona Link to comment
KaiserNeiner Posted April 25 Head Admin Author Report Share Posted April 25 5 minutes ago, Arizona said: Love me the 15LE but I would also like to say that the only lore characters that would have westars AFTER the change would be Fox, Thire and stone no other Lore characters currently have a westar and only 1 lore character would get one if this went through. Only including named jobbed characters ofc are you high Kaiser Zeros Clutch Link to comment
Mystic Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 32 minutes ago, Arizona said: Love me the 15LE but I would also like to say that the only lore characters that would have westars AFTER the change would be Fox, Thire and stone no other Lore characters currently have a westar and only 1 lore character would get one if this went through. both the 15LE and the westar are great weapons to have just want to make sure we’re on the same page with what DS lore characters currently have <3 Only including named jobbed characters ofc i uh im having a stroke. 34 minutes ago, KaiserNeiner said: We would prefer the 15ALE due to the rare occurrences of CG troopers using anything other than standard issue weapons (these look pretty close to regular DC15A's) but at this point man I'm just trying to get something) i understand whole heartedly. best of luck with it! Longest Special Operations Member on the server. Current: Mace Windu Former: Cin Drallig l First Yayax Squad Yover l Foxtrot Commando l 2nd GM BCMD Bacara l Serra Keto l Final SO Commander Jet l First & Last Devil Dogs Deadeye l Veteran Admin l Jedi General Plo Koon l 2nd Returning SO CMD Jet l Luminara Unduli l Wolfpack MAJ Boost l Kit Fisto l Trauma's Unit MED Mystic l Jedi Military Advisor l Omega 36 PVT Darman l High General Shaak Ti l Jedi Chief Instructor l Alpha 98 Nate l Actually Private Crosshair Link to comment
Mike21 Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 DS needs a ARC WL please that isnt lore Link to comment
KaiserNeiner Posted April 25 Head Admin Author Report Share Posted April 25 4 minutes ago, Mike21 said: DS needs a ARC WL please that isnt lore So with this Mike we'd have ARC be able to pick and choose whatever unit they wanna work any day, they wouldn't be stuck under any umbrella and be flexible to work with who they want at all times. Kaiser Zeros Clutch Link to comment
Yeaster Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 +1 DS is incredibly starved and this is really needed to compete even with just specializations like MED or Heavy 1 Report Link to comment
Danny1 Posted April 25 Veteran Admin Report Share Posted April 25 This suggestion is what would truly upgrade and take DS to a nice spot. It diversifies the whitelists in DS without adding any new models and adds new and needed weapons to some of the kits. This is how our people in DS will truly feel like they are in an elite subunit within CG +1 Current: SPEC Regimental Commander Danny Former: Walon Vau, CG Commander Danny, Battalion Commander Fox Link to comment
KillJoy Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 +1 If this is what the server and the battalion wants “for the players by the players”- Synergy Motto under The hood era 1 Report Current: Null 10 Jaing Past spots: 501st XO, 501st CMD, 501st WO Appo, TC Hardcase, 332nd Officer , ATK Reg Purge, Keller Unit Vinnie, General Luminara, 41st GCO ARCL Draa, 3rd Crosshair on the Server, Hunter, Sith Marauder TRO, GMM, VA x3. CIS Tac Droid, Guild Cabinet Member, ARCM Colt, Dash 44, Wolfpack Mortar Link to comment
Funnyman Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 Both Ds and TK are in desperate need of rework, only single WL subunits on the server rn and both are severely lacking in what they have to offer. +1 1 Report Link to comment
WideTurtle Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 +1 as a ds officer I can attest for how horridly useless the kit is Current: Rancor WO Wide Previously: 2ndAC [S] | Oddball | Rys | DSXO Thorn | CG CPT | GM Major Link to comment
Arizona Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 8 hours ago, Mystic said: i uh im having a stroke. i understand whole heartedly. best of luck with it! yeah i did too it was 2am forget what i said 1 Report Link to comment
blazin Posted April 25 Head Admin Report Share Posted April 25 +1 #thatsmyfox #verynice #makeCGgreatagain Current: Yoda Former: Shaak Ti | Arligan Zey | Kit Fisto | Luminara Unduli | Jedi Military Advisor | Null-10 Lieutenant Jaing | Null-6 Lieutenant Kom'rk | Bad Batch Echo | Bad Batch Hunter | Improcco Nye | Alpha-26 Maze | Walon Vau Link to comment
Joyboy Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 +1 Why not add another win to Kaiser's belt? My time as Echo was shorter than Clutch's Yoda Term Link to comment
DirtyDanLIT Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 Didn't read, +1 Anything for my KaiserNeiner! 1 Report Link to comment
Moose_Wundo Posted April 25 Veteran Admin Report Share Posted April 25 +1 I might be being a little bias here Currently: 501st BCMD Rex / Veteran Admin of le server OG ranks - SO CMD Moose and First ever CPT Taggart - The best Walon Vau - 212th Longshot -212th Boil - CG CMD Hound/CMD Moose - 332nd Vaughn Link to comment
KnightVR Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 +1 Current: Game Master | Former: Fox, Thire, Stone, BCMD, Veteran Admin, DSL, ARCLx2 Link to comment
Gurk Posted April 25 Head Admin Report Share Posted April 25 +1 Bad Batch Hunter Former: Veteran Admin | Game Master Manager CMD Alpha 17 | BCMD Gree Link to comment
Love_Bear Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 +1 FORMER: 501ST WO | HARDCASE x3 | 501ST HVYL | RANCOR | 41ST ELIET CORPS | SENIOR ADMIN | NAVAL | CORUSCANT GUARD LT | ARCL CURRENT: | RANCOR | JEDI PADAWAN | SENIOR ADMIN LONG LIVE THE GALACTIC REPUBLIC! Link to comment
WarMaster Posted April 25 Veteran Admin Report Share Posted April 25 +1 Current: || VA || GMM || QuestMaster || 2ndAC CMD WarMaster || Link to comment
Rohan Posted April 26 Head Admin Report Share Posted April 26 (edited) +1, Loving the stuff you are doing for CG already and I am sure, if this is done within your term and implemented, you can make it the best version of DS to date. Edited April 26 by Rohan d Current: Head Admin | Marshal Commander Link to comment
Bacta Posted May 1 Report Share Posted May 1 On 4/24/2024 at 11:19 PM, KaiserNeiner said: Fully redo Diplomatic Services with new regimental slots in the subunit and a kit tweak. how will performance be with this change Link to comment
Bane Posted May 16 Report Share Posted May 16 +1, DS really needs an overhaul to be effective at their jobs Former: A lot of shit dude Link to comment
MrLoeLoe Posted May 18 Report Share Posted May 18 +1 being a SUPL for CG this would definitely increase the amount of people who want to join CG and for people within CG to be DS Pilots Link to comment
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