Add LTC and COL

[WarMaster]

Name: WarMaster

RP Rank: BCMD Cody

Suggestion: Add 2 ranks between MAJ and CMD, LTC and COL.

Implementation: Dev work of adding 2 ranks

Lore: I dont think there is any lore ngl

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Other: Talk to all the BCMDs most of them agreed that adding these 2 ranks will improve the battalions on the server as a whole due to the jump from MAJ-CMD feels like a huge jump so having not only a buffer rank but also more ranks for people to enjoy on the server, the biggest reason ive heard for why there gone is the server pop couldnt handle it cuz we averaged 50 players a day. Now we at lowest are usually at 70 so we should be able to add 2 more ranks for the server to enjoy!

[WarMaster 195]

Name: WarMaster

RP Rank: BCMD Cody

Suggestion: Add 2 ranks between MAJ and CMD, LTC and COL.

Implementation: Dev work of adding 2 ranks

Lore: I dont think there is any lore ngl

Workshop content if applicable:
(If no workshop content, suggest a developer or put "Require Development")

If you are asking to add or change a job, fill out the following if not, leave it out.

Other: Talk to all the BCMDs most of them agreed that adding these 2 ranks will improve the battalions on the server as a whole due to the jump from MAJ-CMD feels like a huge jump so having not only a buffer rank but also more ranks for people to enjoy on the server, the biggest reason ive heard for why there gone is the server pop couldnt handle it cuz we averaged 50 players a day. Now we at lowest are usually at 70 so we should be able to add 2 more ranks for the server to enjoy!

[KillJoy]

-1 no need just to have people set to ranks they just hold like certain people on the sever with 100+ days as a rank 

[KillJoy 566]

-1 no need just to have people set to ranks they just hold like certain people on the sever with 100+ days as a rank 

[Craigary]

+1

I would appreciate just colonel instead of both Ltcol and col.

 

The jump between major and commander doesn’t allow a lot of wiggle room.

[Craigary 1,058]

+1

I would appreciate just colonel instead of both Ltcol and col.

 

The jump between major and commander doesn’t allow a lot of wiggle room.

[BROPDROP]

+1

[BROPDROP 395]

+1

[KaiserNeiner]

+1, I don't think it's needed but I don't see this being that important to vote against 

[KaiserNeiner 0]

+1, I don't think it's needed but I don't see this being that important to vote against 

[SquishyFishyy]

I dont see a point to add LT Col... or vice versa but we dont really need both.

-1 for both 
+1 for Colonel OR Lt. Colonel

[SquishyFishyy 62]

I dont see a point to add LT Col... or vice versa but we dont really need both.

-1 for both 
+1 for Colonel OR Lt. Colonel

[Claire]

-1 for both

+1 for Colonel or LT. Colonel

I think having one would allow for more progression but having 2 feels   like an unneeded rank and a ton of more progression for nothing

[Claire 32]

-1 for both

+1 for Colonel or LT. Colonel

I think having one would allow for more progression but having 2 feels   like an unneeded rank and a ton of more progression for nothing

[Moose_Wundo]

I think the officer ranks and how few there are when people are dedicated allow for stagnation, this would be a good addition for the overall health of a battalion. +1

[Moose_Wundo 214]

I think the officer ranks and how few there are when people are dedicated allow for stagnation, this would be a good addition for the overall health of a battalion. +1

[Reborn]

+1 Just add COL two more ranks is a bit much

[Reborn 147]

+1 Just add COL two more ranks is a bit much

[Zar]

+1, I think it would be healthy for battalions with a lot of officers in them. 

At the moment, it looks awful if you have too many officers. This allows for people to get a better rank transfer and have more wiggle room within a battalion.

[Zar 116]

+1, I think it would be healthy for battalions with a lot of officers in them. 

At the moment, it looks awful if you have too many officers. This allows for people to get a better rank transfer and have more wiggle room within a battalion.

[Unclegennybee]

I think only adding 1 more officer rank will be sufficient so +1 to one rank being added

[Unclegennybee 97]

I think only adding 1 more officer rank will be sufficient so +1 to one rank being added

[luci4]

+1 

Colonel looks cool so why not

[luci4 15]

+1 

Colonel looks cool so why not

[CBlake]

+1    bring back officer ranks   

[CBlake 232]

+1    bring back officer ranks   

[Fars]

+1

Ever since most ranks were taken out it feels like the ranking up in the Officer ranks is a very drastic change

[Fars 37]

+1

Ever since most ranks were taken out it feels like the ranking up in the Officer ranks is a very drastic change

[Charles]

+1 Add COL

[Charles 178]

+1 Add COL

[Edgar]

+1 LTCOL is my favorite rank

[Edgar 131]

+1 LTCOL is my favorite rank

[CrabOps]

+1 but 2 ranks is too many, 1 is fine

[CrabOps 14]

+1 but 2 ranks is too many, 1 is fine

[ChaosLord1019]

-1 for both ranks being added 

+1 for one of the ranks being added 

adding two ranks feels it’ll just add to the grind while one gives that buffer for someone to learn between MAJ to CMD how to do their job the best possible 

[ChaosLord1019 14]

-1 for both ranks being added 

+1 for one of the ranks being added 

adding two ranks feels it’ll just add to the grind while one gives that buffer for someone to learn between MAJ to CMD how to do their job the best possible 

[Banagite]

+1
No one has been able to give me 1 valid reason of what NEGATIVE effect adding both would do. I believe giving people some kickback to get increase motivation. Yes this isn't NECESSARY to some people, and yes I would agree BUT if we can help motivate someone by even 1% or 2% by giving them a new 3 letter thing in front of their name I see no reason not to do it. If people are worried about the differences between the two ranks and what responsibilities each would have and worrying about that, I will say that even if the two ranks have the same responsibilities but one just has a little bit higher authority than the other, that's good enough personally. also btw grind is good.

[Banagite 140]

+1
No one has been able to give me 1 valid reason of what NEGATIVE effect adding both would do. I believe giving people some kickback to get increase motivation. Yes this isn't NECESSARY to some people, and yes I would agree BUT if we can help motivate someone by even 1% or 2% by giving them a new 3 letter thing in front of their name I see no reason not to do it. If people are worried about the differences between the two ranks and what responsibilities each would have and worrying about that, I will say that even if the two ranks have the same responsibilities but one just has a little bit higher authority than the other, that's good enough personally. also btw grind is good.

[BobbyBiceps]

+1

[BobbyBiceps 118]

+1

[Love_Bear]

+1

[Love_Bear 43]

+1

[Diamondback]

+1 i don't see a problem with this just adding more structure to the battalions 

[Diamondback 6]

+1 i don't see a problem with this just adding more structure to the battalions 

[Badger98]

+1 we need more Ranks

[Badger98 64]

+1 we need more Ranks

[Finn]

big +1 we've needed more officer ranks for awhile now, and adding these 2 will make officer progression much easier and cause less burnout. 

[Finn 730]

big +1 we've needed more officer ranks for awhile now, and adding these 2 will make officer progression much easier and cause less burnout. 

[Tec]

+1 @Toaster said it best

[Tec 118]

+1 @Toaster said it best

[KarI]

+1 Both of these ranks will be useful, no reason not to add them

 

Edited October 15, 2024 by EODmanKarl
Thought about it

[KarI 32]

+1 Both of these ranks will be useful, no reason not to add them

 

Edited October 15, 2024 by EODmanKarl
Thought about it

[Rohan]

On 10/14/2024 at 2:12 AM, Banagite said:

 

+1
No one has been able to give me 1 valid reason of what NEGATIVE effect adding both would do.

 

Giving you the ability to promote someone to this scares me.

 

anyways, +1 for COL

[Rohan 606]

On 10/14/2024 at 2:12 AM, Banagite said:

 

+1
No one has been able to give me 1 valid reason of what NEGATIVE effect adding both would do.

 

Giving you the ability to promote someone to this scares me.

 

anyways, +1 for COL

[Guest]

On 10/13/2024 at 5:12 PM, Banagite said:

No one has been able to give me 1 valid reason of what NEGATIVE effect adding both would do. I believe giving people some kickback to get increase motivation. Yes this isn't NECESSARY to some people, and yes I would agree BUT if we can help motivate someone by even 1% or 2% by giving them a new 3 letter thing in front of their name I see no reason not to do it. If people are worried about the differences between the two ranks and what responsibilities each would have and worrying about that, I will say that even if the two ranks have the same responsibilities but one just has a little bit higher authority than the other, that's good enough personally. also btw grind is good.

One of the most consistent issues before on Synergy was that people would grind through all the NCO ranks, which typically take around 1-2 weeks to achieve promotion. However, once they became officers, the average time for promotion to the next level was 30-60 days for most people. This led to a severe drop in motivation and retention, as your most hard-working individuals hit this "officer wall." Most battalions suck at preparing them for this change of pace and they just got frustrated with basically just getting promoted to useless ranks and as they finnaly hit the higher ranks the diffrence of their job changes so little they get more and more frustarted cause the promotion was just that a promotion.

 

I ask the community when you guys were the most effective, at what ranks are you having your best work in your battalion, chances are your SGT, WO, CPT and such are the brunt of your force, this isnt random this is when they are presented with such a new enviorment they can explore.

 

Then think when your battalion lowkey suck at their job, most likely the filler ranks you will see alot of mid-ass work

 

Not only did these recent rank changes help the server finally reach a consensus on what "High Command" (HC) should mean within a battalion,(This was the most annoying thing and now the battalions actually have uniformity of organization of ranks) but they also made ranks simpler. This, in turn, added more pressure and value to those ranks. However, the server already suffers from officer inflation, and this will only make that problem worse—but hey, I’m just the media guy.

 

I implore the server when thinking of these suggestions thinking the actual economy of ranks we have in the server, notice the trends undersetand how battalions go up and down, this is vital if you want a more objective view of the battalion. I got no weight in this anymore but its foolish to think this was just removed just cause

 

If your only form of incentive to keep people in your battalion are these ranks i ask are there enough activities/things to do in your battalion to hold the retention? A new rank like this is a drug to subdue the problem but this is not a solution to fix burnout with your officers and will just lead to more inflation of officer ranks.These are the questions that are important to think about

Edited October 15, 2024 by Bacta

[Guest]

On 10/13/2024 at 5:12 PM, Banagite said:

No one has been able to give me 1 valid reason of what NEGATIVE effect adding both would do. I believe giving people some kickback to get increase motivation. Yes this isn't NECESSARY to some people, and yes I would agree BUT if we can help motivate someone by even 1% or 2% by giving them a new 3 letter thing in front of their name I see no reason not to do it. If people are worried about the differences between the two ranks and what responsibilities each would have and worrying about that, I will say that even if the two ranks have the same responsibilities but one just has a little bit higher authority than the other, that's good enough personally. also btw grind is good.

One of the most consistent issues before on Synergy was that people would grind through all the NCO ranks, which typically take around 1-2 weeks to achieve promotion. However, once they became officers, the average time for promotion to the next level was 30-60 days for most people. This led to a severe drop in motivation and retention, as your most hard-working individuals hit this "officer wall." Most battalions suck at preparing them for this change of pace and they just got frustrated with basically just getting promoted to useless ranks and as they finnaly hit the higher ranks the diffrence of their job changes so little they get more and more frustarted cause the promotion was just that a promotion.

 

I ask the community when you guys were the most effective, at what ranks are you having your best work in your battalion, chances are your SGT, WO, CPT and such are the brunt of your force, this isnt random this is when they are presented with such a new enviorment they can explore.

 

Then think when your battalion lowkey suck at their job, most likely the filler ranks you will see alot of mid-ass work

 

Not only did these recent rank changes help the server finally reach a consensus on what "High Command" (HC) should mean within a battalion,(This was the most annoying thing and now the battalions actually have uniformity of organization of ranks) but they also made ranks simpler. This, in turn, added more pressure and value to those ranks. However, the server already suffers from officer inflation, and this will only make that problem worse—but hey, I’m just the media guy.

 

I implore the server when thinking of these suggestions thinking the actual economy of ranks we have in the server, notice the trends undersetand how battalions go up and down, this is vital if you want a more objective view of the battalion. I got no weight in this anymore but its foolish to think this was just removed just cause

 

If your only form of incentive to keep people in your battalion are these ranks i ask are there enough activities/things to do in your battalion to hold the retention? A new rank like this is a drug to subdue the problem but this is not a solution to fix burnout with your officers and will just lead to more inflation of officer ranks.These are the questions that are important to think about

Edited October 15, 2024 by Bacta

[Comics]

LTC and COL are cool sounding ranks but is this really a way people will reduce burnout? they don't actually serve much function and basically just allow you to cover up a boring job with promotions which are one of the few truly satisfying parts of the server. There has to be better ways to keep people interested than simple linear promotions.
This feels like a plaster solution to a real problem of player retention.

There was a time in synergy when ranks would take months and months to get through and it was a genuine slog but there was actually very few complaints about how slow the system was because there were great events and a really fun community to partake in. Getting to BCMD in a year was considered quite fast in large battalions in early synergy because ranks were an incredibly strong status symbol rather than just an incentive to keep playing like mobile games having daily rewards. 
Keeping people interested in the server is harder than just adding ranks and this would just bloat battalion's officer corps which are usually already huge. Maybe slow down sergeant progression and make officer a longer process to obtain while increasing power and responsibility of NCOs. Make being a sergeant something to actually enjoy rather than being a work horse step to officer where you actually get power and say. SGM is essentially exactly the same as SGT more or the same amount of steps as WO to CMD yet the difference in power gain is enormous in the officers but non existent in Sergeants.

There are smarter ways to approach burn out than adding buffer ranks in-between commander and major, in fact for a lot of early synergy the Colonel ranks didn't exist at all.

 

[Comics 1,638]

LTC and COL are cool sounding ranks but is this really a way people will reduce burnout? they don't actually serve much function and basically just allow you to cover up a boring job with promotions which are one of the few truly satisfying parts of the server. There has to be better ways to keep people interested than simple linear promotions.
This feels like a plaster solution to a real problem of player retention.

There was a time in synergy when ranks would take months and months to get through and it was a genuine slog but there was actually very few complaints about how slow the system was because there were great events and a really fun community to partake in. Getting to BCMD in a year was considered quite fast in large battalions in early synergy because ranks were an incredibly strong status symbol rather than just an incentive to keep playing like mobile games having daily rewards. 
Keeping people interested in the server is harder than just adding ranks and this would just bloat battalion's officer corps which are usually already huge. Maybe slow down sergeant progression and make officer a longer process to obtain while increasing power and responsibility of NCOs. Make being a sergeant something to actually enjoy rather than being a work horse step to officer where you actually get power and say. SGM is essentially exactly the same as SGT more or the same amount of steps as WO to CMD yet the difference in power gain is enormous in the officers but non existent in Sergeants.

There are smarter ways to approach burn out than adding buffer ranks in-between commander and major, in fact for a lot of early synergy the Colonel ranks didn't exist at all.

 

[Eclipse]

3 hours ago, Bacta said:

One of the most consistent issues before on Synergy was that people would grind through all the NCO ranks, which typically take around 1-2 weeks to achieve promotion. However, once they became officers, the average time for promotion to the next level was 30-60 days for most people. This led to a severe drop in motivation and retention, as your most hard-working individuals hit this "officer wall." Most battalions suck at preparing them for this change of pace and they just got frustrated with basically just getting promoted to useless ranks and as they finnaly hit the higher ranks the diffrence of their job changes so little they get more and more frustarted cause the promotion was just that a promotion.

 

I ask the community when you guys were the most effective, at what ranks are you having your best work in your battalion, chances are your SGT, WO, CPT and such are the brunt of your force, this isnt random this is when they are presented with such a new enviorment they can explore.

 

Then think when your battalion lowkey suck at their job, most likely the filler ranks you will see alot of mid-ass work

 

Not only did these recent rank changes help the server finally reach a consensus on what "High Command" (HC) should mean within a battalion,(This was the most annoying thing and now the battalions actually have uniformity of organization of ranks) but they also made ranks simpler. This, in turn, added more pressure and value to those ranks. However, the server already suffers from officer inflation, and this will only make that problem worse—but hey, I’m just the media guy.

 

I implore the server when thinking of these suggestions thinking the actual economy of ranks we have in the server, notice the trends undersetand how battalions go up and down, this is vital if you want a more objective view of the battalion. I got no weight in this anymore but its foolish to think this was just removed just cause

 

If your only form of incentive to keep people in your battalion are these ranks i ask are there enough activities/things to do in your battalion to hold the retention? A new rank like this is a drug to subdue the problem but this is not a solution to fix burnout with your officers and will just lead to more inflation of officer ranks.These are the questions that are important to think about

Yessss bro

 

There is no reason to add more ranks to give ppl a little hit of dopamine when they're at the top

Just tell them to lock in and grind for CMD
-1 

[Eclipse 820]

3 hours ago, Bacta said:

One of the most consistent issues before on Synergy was that people would grind through all the NCO ranks, which typically take around 1-2 weeks to achieve promotion. However, once they became officers, the average time for promotion to the next level was 30-60 days for most people. This led to a severe drop in motivation and retention, as your most hard-working individuals hit this "officer wall." Most battalions suck at preparing them for this change of pace and they just got frustrated with basically just getting promoted to useless ranks and as they finnaly hit the higher ranks the diffrence of their job changes so little they get more and more frustarted cause the promotion was just that a promotion.

 

I ask the community when you guys were the most effective, at what ranks are you having your best work in your battalion, chances are your SGT, WO, CPT and such are the brunt of your force, this isnt random this is when they are presented with such a new enviorment they can explore.

 

Then think when your battalion lowkey suck at their job, most likely the filler ranks you will see alot of mid-ass work

 

Not only did these recent rank changes help the server finally reach a consensus on what "High Command" (HC) should mean within a battalion,(This was the most annoying thing and now the battalions actually have uniformity of organization of ranks) but they also made ranks simpler. This, in turn, added more pressure and value to those ranks. However, the server already suffers from officer inflation, and this will only make that problem worse—but hey, I’m just the media guy.

 

I implore the server when thinking of these suggestions thinking the actual economy of ranks we have in the server, notice the trends undersetand how battalions go up and down, this is vital if you want a more objective view of the battalion. I got no weight in this anymore but its foolish to think this was just removed just cause

 

If your only form of incentive to keep people in your battalion are these ranks i ask are there enough activities/things to do in your battalion to hold the retention? A new rank like this is a drug to subdue the problem but this is not a solution to fix burnout with your officers and will just lead to more inflation of officer ranks.These are the questions that are important to think about

Yessss bro

 

There is no reason to add more ranks to give ppl a little hit of dopamine when they're at the top

Just tell them to lock in and grind for CMD
-1 

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