Management Marvel Posted November 12, 2021 Management Management Report Share Posted November 12, 2021 (edited) Name: Marvel RP Rank: BCMD Suggestion: Giving Dogma and Tup specializations within Torrent Company. Specifically Dogma becoming an engineer and Tup receiving a shield. Implementation: Give Dogma the Support Trooper loadout and Tup a deployable shield Lore: N/A Workshop content if applicable: N/A (If no workshop content, suggest a developer or put "Require Development") If you are asking to add or change a job, fill out the following Add or Change: Change (Any job modification requires all this information) Job: Torrent Company Dogma Slots: N/A Description: N/A Model: N/A (Provide the model string if on server Ex. models/player/synergy/cblake/ls_squad/ls_trp/lstrp.mdl (Get this from the Q menu) Weapons: rw_sw_dp23, alydus_fusioncutter, weapon_hacktab, buy hack_enabler, buy 100_armor (If you want a modfication to a weapon/saber you must put the weapon string in the suggestion. Ex. tfa_e5 (Get this from the Q menu)) ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Add or Change: Change (Any job modification requires all this information) Job: Torrent Company Tup Slots: N/A Description: N/A Model: N/A (Provide the model string if on server Ex. models/player/synergy/cblake/ls_squad/ls_trp/lstrp.mdl (Get this from the Q menu) Weapons: deployable_shield (If you want a modfication to a weapon/saber you must put the weapon string in the suggestion. Ex. tfa_e5 (Get this from the Q menu)) Other: Now the purpose behind this suggestion is to finally give these two characters something other than the default trooper loadout which they both currently have. We decided for Dogma to be an engineer or support trooper so that in the typical squad environment that TC creates there is a trooper in their group that can distribute armor, hack rayshields, repair vehicles, and is CQC with a shotgun alongside Hawk however Hawk's primary focus is being a pilot and flying whereas Dogma would primarily focus on those tasks on the ground. For Tup however we have decided to try and give him something unique for a 501st character with a deployable shield. We didn't want to just double up on another persons job again where doubling up on SUP made sense for what we are trying to accomplish, all the other regiments didn't. Tup was present during the battle of Ringo Vinda where 501st and Doom's Unit troopers utilized shields. Tup wasn't necessarily seen using one himself but we thought he was the best option to create his own unique role in the subunit and in the battalion without trying to get a 501st riot trooper. Our end goal is for Dogma and Tup to have their own definitive purposes in TC and in the 501st, that being Dogma as an engineer/support trooper and Tup utilizing a shield to support his squad in combat. I am however fine with negotiating other options for Tup if people decide to lose their minds over another battalion having one deployable shield. This was just one of our better options for the character. Edited November 12, 2021 by Marvel 1 Report i am literally captain tukk Link to comment
Nalon Posted November 12, 2021 Banned Report Share Posted November 12, 2021 +1 please for the love of god I would love a shield and same with any future Tup's Link to comment
Whataburger Posted November 12, 2021 Report Share Posted November 12, 2021 +1 bacta for tup woop woop! 1 Report Whataburger Why is my reputation so low? Link to comment
KillJoy Posted November 12, 2021 Report Share Posted November 12, 2021 Where the lore behind tip have a shield. But nuh +1 it makes sense for them to different load outs because if not what is the point other than just being a lore character. This should have been suggested many Rexs ago 1 Report Current: Rancor Colt Past spots: 501st XO, 501st CMD, 501st WO Appo, TC Hardcase, 332nd office, ATK Reg Purge, Keller Unit Vinnie, General Luminara, 41st GCO ARCL Draa, 3rd Crosshair on the Server, Hunter, Sith Marauder TRO, GMM, VA x3. CIS Tac Droid, Guild Cabinet Member The person who made a treaty with the sith as a clone Link to comment
Conrad Posted November 12, 2021 Report Share Posted November 12, 2021 -1 not every single character needs a unique thing. Some troopers where just troopers, not everyone is known for something or has this special purpose they fullfil within a squad. This isn't a bad thing and to me and isn't even about lore. Not every character needs some busted kit, some people are just your every day frontline troopers, and thats ok. 1 8 Report Link to comment
Guac Posted November 12, 2021 Forum Admin Report Share Posted November 12, 2021 +1 for dogma, -1 for tup. I think that the engineer kit is naturally a balancing move. Can't say the same about Tup. 2 1 Report 🎀 𝙵𝚊𝚛𝚝 𝚂𝚖𝚎𝚕𝚕𝚊 🎀 <3 Link to comment
Rickle Posted November 12, 2021 Report Share Posted November 12, 2021 -1 I feel like what Conrad said kind of sums it up, not every single person needs something special especially if they didn't have anything special in the Clone wars. I would be happy to +1 if there was any lore and you just didn't want 2 troopers to have stuff just because they need to have more stuff. I mean ppl already go for TC just because of the lore characters just giving them a bigger buff. 1 1 Report im retraded Link to comment
Hanz Posted November 12, 2021 Report Share Posted November 12, 2021 They don't need anything special. TC works just fine with two lore characters that are just lore characters. I was happy to be Tup back in the day and yeah it would have been cool to have a shield but he doesn't need it at all. Conrad hit the nail right on the head -1 2 Report Link to comment
Hansen Posted November 12, 2021 Banned Report Share Posted November 12, 2021 +1 1 Report Former: Puddle Wife, Torrent Company REGL COL Boomer Link to comment
EmBark Posted November 12, 2021 Report Share Posted November 12, 2021 +1 It would be unique 1 Report Current Ranks/Names Held: Torrent Company Captain Boomer (Resigned), Senior Senator Gume Saam "Surround yourself with people that care about you. You're the reward. Don't go seeking for others approval. If someone disrespects your advice without hearing it out, cut them mfs out your life. They aren't worth your time." ~ EmBark Link to comment
NaquisAKANuKwah Posted November 12, 2021 Report Share Posted November 12, 2021 +1, theres no point in them having no class specifications. If you just have a default trooper loadout, whats the point? might as well go on the Default trooper whitelist 1 Report God's silliest soldier | KITTYPOSTING BANDIT FROM ZAMBIA Link to comment
Management Marvel Posted November 12, 2021 Management Author Management Report Share Posted November 12, 2021 8 hours ago, Conrad said: -1 not every single character needs a unique thing. Some troopers where just troopers, not everyone is known for something or has this special purpose they fullfil within a squad. This isn't a bad thing and to me and isn't even about lore. Not every character needs some busted kit, some people are just your every day frontline troopers, and thats ok. In subunits like this where there are characters that have massive downgrades compared to the rest of the group it just makes them less desirable than the rest. In my time in the 501st this has been the biggest complaint about these two characters and was my primary reasoning behind removing TC trooper. Dogma’s characterization already makes him less desirable as is and Tup is basically just a noob however what we are asking for aren’t even busted kits. They’re really standard kits just to give them something that can help prevent these two positions being open as often as they normally are. Right now they’re freelance where they can attach to any regiment minus ARC and HVO. However this only provides a problem where these people are medics without medical kits or ARFs without ARF kits. I don’t think there is another lore character job on the server like these two. Waxer and Boil are the same. In the show we see them with standard trooper kits however on the server they were given specific kits that being Boil as a HVY and Waxer as an ARF. It’s not about making these lore jobs busted which by no means is this suggestion doing so. It’s about providing these jobs with actual purposes and ways to do more than just “shoot droids with default gun; be character.” 8 hours ago, Guac said: +1 for dogma, -1 for tup. I think that the engineer kit is naturally a balancing move. Can't say the same about Tup. This. We knew the Tup shield suggestion was a long shot however Dogma becoming an engineer makes complete and total sense. There just aren’t a ton of options for Tup. 1 1 Report i am literally captain tukk Link to comment
n1ck Posted November 13, 2021 Report Share Posted November 13, 2021 +1 I think this is a cool idea 1 Report Link to comment
Axar Posted November 23, 2021 Report Share Posted November 23, 2021 -1 im cool with non lore accurate stuff on the server most of the time, but thinking about a 501st running around with a shield is kinda cringe to me. The engineer one though I don't see why not 2 Report RIP Family of Euphoria Link to comment
Dono Posted December 2, 2021 Report Share Posted December 2, 2021 (edited) +1 41st has a similar issue with the scout blaster being provided to the 3 bogey squad members. It’s literally one of the worst blasters on the server and is never used. BUT regardless we still have people wanting to be those lore positions. If it benefits the battalion and doesn’t really impact any other battalions operations I don’t see why it shouldn’t be added. This would only be a positive change. Edited December 2, 2021 by Dono 1 Report Link to comment
Comics Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 -1, you are an RP character. Your regimental power is RPing as a character!!! Most troopers were normal and non-specialised. Seems like a sorta weird way to try and make these characters feel "equal" to the rest of the squad. People are losing interest in the character and roleplaying as a member of the squad, TC is cool to join cause it's the top dogs in 501st: that close brotherhood who work directly with Rex that's what you should be promoting, the RP. Maybe instead of using regiments as a crutch you should focus more on promoting the RP aspects since it's a thing the server seems to struggle with especially on the clone side. People wanna lore character cause it looks cool and free kit not because ya know it's the said lore character with a personality they like or wanna put into action. 2 Report The most fuckable person on Synergy Star Wars RP~ Link to comment
Nalon Posted December 20, 2021 Banned Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 I would just like to say, if this gets accepted, both Tup and Dogma are A+ and can give this to them self for the time being. 1 Report Link to comment
Nalon Posted December 20, 2021 Banned Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 Also if not a shield, as the current Tup, I would like a bacta kit 1 Report Link to comment
Cox Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Nalon said: Also if not a shield, as the current Tup, I would like a bacta kit Do you need it? Edited December 20, 2021 by Cox Certified Giga Chad Link to comment
Nalon Posted December 20, 2021 Banned Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 11 minutes ago, Cox said: Do you need it? Well I am a MEDO rn and I would love a bacta kit or a shield. 3 Report Link to comment
Slak Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 3 hours ago, Nalon said: Well I am a MEDO rn and I would love a bacta kit or a shield. After this response. -1 It just seems like you are asking for things for your own sake not the battalions or anyone else. Notably Known as: Regimental Commander, Battalion Commander Doom, Last Foxtrot Lead Gregor, Boss, Sev, Battalion Commander Wolffe, Boost, Comet, Commander Faie, Charger Currently: Crosshair & Shaak Ti Link to comment
Nalon Posted December 20, 2021 Banned Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 45 minutes ago, Slak said: After this response. -1 It just seems like you are asking for things for your own sake not the battalions or anyone else. Well its not only for me, Marvel brought it up so he wants it and a bunch of the +1's are from the 501st who it benefits. Then people who aren't effected by this just -1 it because... they are bored I guess? 1 Report Link to comment
Conrad Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Nalon said: Well its not only for me, Marvel brought it up so he wants it and a bunch of the +1's are from the 501st who it benefits. Then people who aren't effected by this just -1 it because... they are bored I guess? So I just wanna say people -1ing with valid criticism and you calling them "bored" is not a good look my man. People have brought up their reasons, and the whole point of an open forum for suggestions where the community can comment is so that you can get feedback on things from more then just your own point of view. Trying to discredit people for participating in the democracy of the server is kinda rude. The best thing you can do is take this feedback into account, regardless of if this gets accepted or denied in order to help realize how other people see Torrent Company. 2 Report Link to comment
Brooklyn Posted December 21, 2021 Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 Torrent Company is a stacked unit. Not to mention how much love and detail they receive from the Franchise and the server. If you don't like your characters kit and want it changed to infringe on another characters or regiments specialization, then this is more selfish than anything. This is the first time in 3 years I've seen a suggestion like this for TC. No one before you really minded or cared about their kits because they liked the character and position for what it was and is. No reason to change it. -1 1 Report Kal Skirata Bacta Marvel Brooklyn I beat Jad in a spar first try. Link to comment
Nalon Posted December 21, 2021 Banned Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 8 hours ago, Brooklyn said: Torrent Company is a stacked unit. Not to mention how much love and detail they receive from the Franchise and the server. If you don't like your characters kit and want it changed to infringe on another characters or regiments specialization, then this is more selfish than anything. This is the first time in 3 years I've seen a suggestion like this for TC. No one before you really minded or cared about their kits because they liked the character and position for what it was and is. No reason to change it. -1 I mean your right. I just think it could be a cool change, and if this gets denied that kind of sucks but its not like I lose the character. Link to comment
Nalon Posted December 21, 2021 Banned Report Share Posted December 21, 2021 10 hours ago, Conrad said: So I just wanna say people -1ing with valid criticism and you calling them "bored" is not a good look my man. People have brought up their reasons, and the whole point of an open forum for suggestions where the community can comment is so that you can get feedback on things from more then just your own point of view. Trying to discredit people for participating in the democracy of the server is kinda rude. The best thing you can do is take this feedback into account, regardless of if this gets accepted or denied in order to help realize how other people see Torrent Company. That ? means its a question because they Idk why they care. I understand for people with good points or people effected by this decision, not some random -1. Everyone can put one up, its about if they should put one up. I did not mean to come off rude about it and I apologize for that, I was trying to prove something and I typed it in a aggressive way. I am sorry about that. Also I respect the -1 if they have valid reason reasoning. 1 Report Link to comment
Maverick Posted December 27, 2021 Report Share Posted December 27, 2021 Unfortunately, this suggestion has been DENIED. If the same suggestion is submitted again within 60 DAYS of this post it will be automatically denied. // LOCKED // MOVED TO [CW] SERVER SUGGESTIONS - DENIED Quote Denial reasons: (These are some reasons that your suggestion might get denied for.) Not providing sufficient information. Ex: Just linking the workshop and not giving us the actual model path you want to use. The addon's size is way too big compared to its content(s). Ex: 35MB for one model. Majority negative feedback. Bad optimization and/or causes bad performance on the server. Having multiple suggestions within one thread. Bothering leadership/development team regarding a suggestion. Suggesting a previously denied suggestion within 60 days of denial. Link to comment
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