Dennis Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 Name: Dennis RP Rank: Count Dooku leader of the separatist alliance Suggestion: Add Asajj Ventress and Savage Opress to the CIS faction Implementation: ^^^^^^^^^^^ Lore: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Asajj_Ventress https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Savage_Opress Workshop content if applicable: n/a already on the server(If no workshop content, suggest a developer or put "Require Development") If you are asking to add or change a job, fill out the following Add or Change: Change Asajj Ventress to CIS faction(Any job modification requires all this information) Job: Asaj Ventress Slots: 1/1 Description: current one Model: models/church/ventress_season4.mdl(Provide the model string if on server Ex. models/player/synergy/cblake/ls_squad/ls_trp/lstrp.mdl (Get this from the Q menu) Weapons: Add in a ventress saber, models/starwars/cwa/lightsabers/ventress.mdl, give it the standard sith powers, choke, push, pull, whirwind, etc(If you want a modfication to a weapon/saber you must put the weapon string in the suggestion. Ex. tfa_e5 (Get this from the Q menu)) Add or Change: Change: Savage Opress to CIS faction(Any job modification requires all this information) Job: Savage Opress Slots: 1/1 Description: current one Model: models/savage.mdl(Provide the model string if on server Ex. models/player/synergy/cblake/ls_squad/ls_trp/lstrp.mdl (Get this from the Q menu) Weapons: add in savage opress saber, models/saber_savage/saber_savage.mdl, same powers as ventress(If you want a modfication to a weapon/saber you must put the weapon string in the suggestion. Ex. tfa_e5 (Get this from the Q menu)) Other: Both of these two will fall under the command of Count Dooku, replacing his tactical droid with him now, this add just one extra slot. Current: Kevin Colt leader of the Colt Crime Syndicate | Alpha-69 Dennis Former: BCMD Doom x3| Havoc Squad Brimstone x3 | Base Ops CMD | Delta Jedi | BCMD Colt | BCMD Bacara | Specialized Regimental Commander x2 | First Count Dooku and creator of the CIS | Rear Admiral Orson Krennic Link to comment
Maddoxx Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 +1 Would give us more jobs that can help RP on the server for CIS. Link to comment
Moose Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 +1 bald bitch = hot bitch Money Moves Link to comment
Guac Posted February 2, 2021 Forum Admin Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 (edited) -1, after reading those after me I changed my opinion. There seems to be far better options to serve as replacements for these roles. Edited February 2, 2021 by Guac 🎀 𝙵𝚊𝚛𝚝 𝚂𝚖𝚎𝚕𝚕𝚊 🎀 <3 Link to comment
Scarecrow Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 (edited) Ehh this wouldn't really "improve RP" This would just damage immersion (what little we have) Asajj and Savage never operated at the same time for obvious reasons. Being that Savage was made because Dooku cast Ventress out and she made a assassin. Even then Savage and Ventress are dead by now or at least Ventress is a bounty hunter you'd of been better off asking for Quinlan Voss to enter as admiral enigma besides when the [Expletive] do the CIS ever RP? This is in refrence to the above and possibly below +1's that blindly state "Good for RP" or "Improves RP" Personally unless the CIS becomes a full time functioning faction outside of hop on the Jobs RDM fest then encounter over there is little point to adding more jobs -1 Edited February 2, 2021 by Scarecrow 2 Report Link to comment
Aeon Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Scarecrow said: Ehh this wouldn't really "improve RP" This would just damage immersion (what little we have) Asajj Savage never operated at the same time for obvious reasons being that Savage was made because Dooku cast Ventress out and even then Savage and Ventress are dead by now or at least Ventress is a bounty hunter you'd of been better off asking for Quinlan Voss to enter as admiral enigma besides when the [Expletive] do the CIS ever RP? This is in refrence to the above and possibly below +1's that blindly state "Good for RP" or "Improves RP" Personally unless the CIS becomes a full time functioning faction outside of hop on the Jobs RDM fest then encounter over there is little point to adding more jobs -1 -1 Havent seen much activity within the CIS Overall, not a good idea team Link to comment
Cannon Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, Aeon said: -1 Havent seen much activity within the CIS Overall, not a good idea team this is dumb... CIS does AT LEAST 1 OP a day 2 1 Report Cannon 2.0 | Shaved Palpy's head Credit Score: 707 Link to comment
Hanz Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 +1 Doesn't exactly improve Rp but no downside really and just adds more opportunities for the CIS Link to comment
Craigary Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 +1 Now hear me out here. It doesn’t make much sense to have maul in his shadow collective phase, and then have savage oppress and ventress running around playing cis still. Instead of having Named saber users why not just yoink the jedi hunter droid or something? +1 tho becuase I see you guys want it, and believe it can help out the faction. 1 Report Ex HA | VA | SA | A | NA | GMC | GMM | GMO | GM | GH | TRO x4? | TR | RTR | Hunter | Darman | Mereel | Fixer | Etain | Anakin | Hett | Base ops Commander | Forum Mod | Ahsoka x2| Tyzen Xebec | cooker | Jesse | Tup | warthog - Everything else i was Link to comment
Robb Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 (edited) -1 This doesn't just automatically "add rp". I also agree with Scarecrow's point: Ventress and Opress wouldn't operate during the same time as they were both under Dooku during different time frames. Doesn't make sense. EDIT: I also just don't think the CIS needs more force wielding jobs. The ones they have already, will destroy the entire unit that is targeted. It's not needed. Edited February 2, 2021 by Robb 5 Report Link to comment
Management Marvel Posted February 2, 2021 Management Management Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 (edited) -1 Both Ventress and Savage would no longer be apart of the CIS at this point of the war especially at the same time. We should not keep adding onto the list of lore breaking characters onto the server. Nor do I believe the CIS need anymore jobs, especially these two. They would add little to no roleplay because at the end of the day they're just gonna keep force leaping away. It's funny because I have now seen you use lore to argue for things you want and then argue that the server doesn't follow lore to add what you want. You gotta pick a side. Edited February 2, 2021 by Marvel 7 1 Report i am literally captain tukk Link to comment
Clutch Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 I think marvel summed it up -1 Kaiser Zeros Clutch Link to comment
Sixta Posted February 2, 2021 Banned Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, Marvel said: -1 Both Ventress and Savage would no longer be apart of the CIS at this point of the war especially at the same time. We should not keep adding onto the list of lore breaking characters onto the server. Nor do I believe the CIS need anymore jobs, especially these two. They would add little to no roleplay because at the end of the day they're just gonna keep force leaping away. It's funny because I have now seen you use lore to argue for things you want and then argue that the server doesn't follow lore to add what you want. You gotta pick a side. -1 Link to comment
Bleach Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 -1 Arent they both y'know not aligned with the CIS no more? I was the Best Canadian on the Server The Smoke Will Never Clear... Link to comment
Cox Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 -1 essentially what marvel said Certified Giga Chad Link to comment
Eclipse Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 -1 The argument of "it doesn't need to follow lore" cannot be used when other suggestions have been made because "it is lore accurate." I also feel CIS does not need two more force wielding OP jobs to come kick our ass. I don't have a real big reason for this, but I just think it wouldn't work too well on the server atm. Take that reason with a grain of salt. 1 Report Yes, I do hate fat people. Former Ordo Skirata Link to comment
Piff Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 -1 I wouldn't mind one or the other but not both “I’m not toxic, It’s just hard not to treat you like an idiot” ~ Logic Link to comment
Shake Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 (edited) -1 don't approve of this change when there's other options Edited February 2, 2021 by Shake Link to comment
Logic Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 11 hours ago, Robb said: -1 This doesn't just automatically "add rp". I also agree with Scarecrow's point: Ventress and Opress wouldn't operate during the same time as they were both under Dooku during different time frames. Doesn't make sense. Well Rancor and half the 501st lore characters wouldn't be helping the republic at thisvpoint in time.... Yeah I'm not getting more into that. This argument is invalidated, HOWEVER maybe there can be s rule that its either Ventress or Savage during an op, not both. 9 hours ago, Eclipse said: -1 The argument of "it doesn't need to follow lore" cannot be used when other suggestions have been made because "it is lore accurate." I also feel CIS does not need two more force wielding OP jobs to come kick our ass. I don't have a real big reason for this, but I just think it wouldn't work too well on the server atm. Take that reason with a grain of salt. Have you seen some of the primetime ops? Even with NPCs and artillery we get obliterated. Especially if theres alot of jedi. Last op I essentially got bullied by Luther and Yoda lol. A force user will help balance this out a bit. 12 hours ago, Scarecrow said: Ehh this wouldn't really "improve RP" This would just damage immersion (what little we have) Asajj and Savage never operated at the same time for obvious reasons. Being that Savage was made because Dooku cast Ventress out and she made a assassin. Even then Savage and Ventress are dead by now or at least Ventress is a bounty hunter you'd of been better off asking for Quinlan Voss to enter as admiral enigma besides when the [Expletive] do the CIS ever RP? This is in refrence to the above and possibly below +1's that blindly state "Good for RP" or "Improves RP" Personally unless the CIS becomes a full time functioning faction outside of hop on the Jobs RDM fest then encounter over there is little point to adding more jobs -1 Lastly, the CIS is currently close to incapable of roleplay. Heres why B1, B2, Droideka and Magna Guard are KOS Commando RP is pointless, bc metagaming, and generally overused. However, this leaves comms RP, which exists if you pay attention. Maddox for example is Trench and was roleplaying with Brace in comms yesterday. Dennis could do this too but dooku's exquisite laughter would get old reap fast, Dooku doesn't have very amazing interactions with anyone specific. The addition of Savage and Ventress will create the opportunity to have more interactions. It obviously doesn't just automatically create more rp, thats up to the people holding those positions. 11 hours ago, Marvel said: It's funny because I have now seen you use lore to argue for things you want and then argue that the server doesn't follow lore to add what you want. You gotta pick a side. Uhm yeah, using lore to explain a good addition is a way to get stuff added, however if you believe its a good addition but isn't lore friendly just look at half of Rancor's command... sometimes its a good idea, even it breaks lore. +1 1 2 Report I'm not toxic. You're just making it really hard to not treat you like an idiot. Link to comment
Scarecrow Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, Logicless said: Lastly, the CIS is currently close to incapable of roleplay. Heres why B1, B2, Droideka and Magna Guard are KOS Commando RP is pointless, bc metagaming, and generally overused. However, this leaves comms RP, which exists if you pay attention. Maddox for example is Trench and was roleplaying with Brace in comms yesterday. Dennis could do this too but dooku's exquisite laughter would get old reap fast, Dooku doesn't have very amazing interactions with anyone specific. I know that and that is why I brought that point up as I thought all the people saying it improves RP was ever foolish and I wanted to point that out. And comms RP outside of Passive stuff is indeed worthless as any and nearly every event has that so that can be treated as special because a raid is happening And as for the well Rancor has half of it command dead and so does the 501st yeah I agree but that doesn't mean we should keep adding to the problem especially for a faction which is glorified event jobs at this point. 1 Report Link to comment
KillJoy Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 +1 this could add new Rp or Gameplay for people aka during Cis Ops we have to worry about 2 other force users rather than just Dooku and Grievous. 3 Report Current: Rancor Colt Past spots: 501st XO, 501st CMD, 501st WO Appo, TC Hardcase, 332nd office, ATK Reg Purge, Keller Unit Vinnie, General Luminara, 41st GCO ARCL Draa, 3rd Crosshair on the Server, Hunter, Sith Marauder TRO, GMM, VA x3. CIS Tac Droid, Guild Cabinet Member The person who made a treaty with the sith as a clone Link to comment
Logic Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Scarecrow said: I know that and that is why I brought that point up as I thought all the people saying it improves RP was ever foolish and I wanted to point that out. And comms RP outside of Passive stuff is indeed worthless as any and nearly every event has that so that can be treated as special because a raid is happening And as for the well Rancor has half of it command dead and so does the 501st yeah I agree but that doesn't mean we should keep adding to the problem especially for a faction which is glorified event jobs at this point. Thats why I mentioned a compromise that its either savage or ventress during the op, not both. We get obliterated by jedi, like they 2 shot B1s. Its only fair we get more force users to keep up. Edited February 2, 2021 by Logicless I'm not toxic. You're just making it really hard to not treat you like an idiot. Link to comment
Dennis Posted February 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 8 hours ago, Shake said: -1 don't approve of this change when there's other options Do you wish to state said options? or are we gonna have to try to read your mind? Also @Marvel im on the side of "iTs LoRe sO wE mUsT AdD iT oR ItS lOrE sO wE cAnT" you do realize i got Havoc Squad added to the server correct but hey thanks for the feedback. Since no one uses the form anyways. Current: Kevin Colt leader of the Colt Crime Syndicate | Alpha-69 Dennis Former: BCMD Doom x3| Havoc Squad Brimstone x3 | Base Ops CMD | Delta Jedi | BCMD Colt | BCMD Bacara | Specialized Regimental Commander x2 | First Count Dooku and creator of the CIS | Rear Admiral Orson Krennic Link to comment
Foxey Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 I haven't heard or seen much of actual roleplay from the existing CIS jobs. Not only does this not make any sense whatsoever, but I don't believe it will actually add anything. -1 3 Report Link to comment
Daytona211 Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 This community is pretty bipolar about picking a spot in the timeline. I recall being dumbed for suggesting that moving to a few weeks before order 66 would cause problems. When I was GMD I set a policy that a gamemaster can host an event at any point in the timeline as long as it is accurately conveyed to the players that the event is set at that particular point (order 66, battle of ringo vinda, first battle of geonosis etc). This removes restrictions on them while also keeping immersion mostly in-tact. Notice this is only for events not encounters since you can't really "flashback" on main server. I believe @Shockpoint has kept this policy in place. I believe there are ways to tell stories similar to these characters experiences without the un-immersivness of having these characters experience / convey them. So -1 for me unless someone can counter my points 1 Report former: cadet,private,private first class, specialist,Sergeant,Staff Sergeant,Sergeant First Class,Master Sergeant,First Sergeant,Sergeant Major,Command Sergeant Major,Warrant Officer, Sergeant Major of the battalion, 2nd Lieutenant,Lieutenant,Captain,Major,Lieutenant Colonel,Colonel,Commander,Executive Officer,Battalion Commander,Regimental Commander,Marshal Commander,501st,212th,DU,21st,CG,RANCOR,104th,SOBDE,Jedi,Naval,41st,Event Job,Gamehelper,Gamemaster,Gamemaster Officer, Gamemaster Manager, Gamemaster Director, New Admin, Admin, Senior Admin, Veteran Admin,Head Admin, Director,Managment, Founder, Retired Founder, forum mod, forum admin,forum dev,Yoda,Mace WIndu current: Versock Link to comment
Katy Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 -1 I value gameplay and things that will make people happy a lot more than lore, but unless I see some actual depth to the CIS faction in terms of RP and whatnot, it would just be more irritating to fight in an operation. I suggest thinking of some different droids for the faction. Not more force users 1 Report Former: Rancor PVT | Special Operations SGM | Jedi Astromech | Guardian | B2 Battle Droid Link to comment
Shockpoint Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 I really am not opposed to adding more CIS leadership to CIS. I feel it could be good to expand upon the big three and it could help spread interest within CIS. However, adding these two makes little to no sense. If you wouldn't add Maul to CIS, why add Savage? He worked for Dooku for a solid 2 episodes, and he wouldn't add any roleplay. Ventress is even worse, as she as a character who built herself as not being in that fight any longer, and to shoot her back into it when we are 2 weeks from the order makes no sense. However, there are tons of other jobs you could use to supplement. You could use Watt Tambor for example, a dude who worked with Trench and Dooku and who appeared in Season 7, and be another more roleplay oriented job rather than shooting. You could also add Kalani, the Supertactical droid from Season 5 and Rebels, and make him another roleplay job. If you want an action job, you could even add Cad Bane, and help bridge the gap between BH and CIS. If Bane is on, he can call BH to the CIS' aid in operations, and could even provide them with renown and provide some lore sense between the CIS and BH working together, which was done a lot. Besides Tambor, the rest of these jobs are already on server, and make far more sense than adding these two. They make zero sense not only in lore, but their roleplay simply wouldn't function. Dead clones who are dead still function similarly to normal clones. However, for a massive CIS job who defected from the CIS in season 3 to just be vibing would allow for them to just, not really have anything meaningful to add to the conversation. Hope this was helpful and inciteful rather than the monkeys hittin a -1 and just bailing, although I similarly disagree. -1 4 Report If you use the RC Shotgun you are automatically cringe. Link to comment
Management Marvel Posted February 2, 2021 Management Management Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Shockpoint said: I really am not opposed to adding more CIS leadership to CIS. I feel it could be good to expand upon the big three and it could help spread interest within CIS. However, adding these two makes little to no sense. If you wouldn't add Maul to CIS, why add Savage? He worked for Dooku for a solid 2 episodes, and he wouldn't add any roleplay. Ventress is even worse, as she as a character who built herself as not being in that fight any longer, and to shoot her back into it when we are 2 weeks from the order makes no sense. However, there are tons of other jobs you could use to supplement. You could use Watt Tambor for example, a dude who worked with Trench and Dooku and who appeared in Season 7, and be another more roleplay oriented job rather than shooting. You could also add Kalani, the Supertactical droid from Season 5 and Rebels, and make him another roleplay job. If you want an action job, you could even add Cad Bane, and help bridge the gap between BH and CIS. If Bane is on, he can call BH to the CIS' aid in operations, and could even provide them with renown and provide some lore sense between the CIS and BH working together, which was done a lot. Besides Tambor, the rest of these jobs are already on server, and make far more sense than adding these two. They make zero sense not only in lore, but their roleplay simply wouldn't function. Dead clones who are dead still function similarly to normal clones. However, for a massive CIS job who defected from the CIS in season 3 to just be vibing would allow for them to just, not really have anything meaningful to add to the conversation. Hope this was helpful and inciteful rather than the monkeys hittin a -1 and just bailing, although I similarly disagree. -1 https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2331029867&searchtext= There is already a suggestion to add Poggle the Lesser into the faction to replace one of Dooku’s Tactical droids. Wat Tambor was added to the pack recently and he could be a viable choice as well seeing as he was involved with the Battle of Anaxes. Maybe he could be one of Trench’s tac droids tbh. Though I question the utilization of Trench and these non combative roles. The CIS was added more as a pvp faction and these few jolly dudes don’t ever fight. They are essentially RP positions similar to senators The Cad Bane idea is golden. It would increase possible interaction between CIS and the Guild and also makes sense. There are a lot of other options out there that would make more sense than bald bitch and horny steroid yellow Maul. Edited February 2, 2021 by Marvel 2 Report i am literally captain tukk Link to comment
Comics Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 Characters like Wat Tambor or Poggle the Lesser would create far better RP than these two non-CIS characters -1 The most fuckable person on Synergy Star Wars RP~ Link to comment
Matt-Matthos Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 (edited) I do understand the point that we don't follow lore therefore it doesn't matter to have these characters in the faction. But let me add some light to this. Ventress stopped working with the CIS when clones were Phase 1. Savage worked very briefly with the CIS then jumped ship to work with Maul. I also feel like the point of "adding RP" doesn't seem to work because from what I've seen CIS Ops are just a group of droids and Dooku or Grievous killing clones with very little speaking in game or comms RP between each other and the clones. That doesn't sound like RP to me. And you may say ya sure but they can RP with Kenobi or something well again Ventress can be used as a EJ for that while Savage, well Savage kinda needs to be with Maul for him to work in my sense. Again the main focus for the CIS faction is to cause some havoc and kill some clones and Jedi, never really stop and RP. also feel like the CIS faction is just going to get more and more force folks yet its the CIS factions...not the sith one -1 Edited February 2, 2021 by Matt-Matthos Link to comment
Slak Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 -1 Notably Known as: Regimental Commander, Battalion Commander Doom, Last Foxtrot Lead Gregor, Boss, Sev, Battalion Commander Wolffe, Boost, Comet, Commander Faie, Charger Currently: Crosshair & Shaak Ti Link to comment
Bbstine Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 Unfortunately, this suggestion has been DENIED. If the same suggestion is submitted again within 60 DAYS of this post it will be automatically denied. // LOCKED// MOVED TO [CW] SERVER SUGGESTIONS - DENIED Quote Denial reasons:(These are some reasons that your suggestion might get denied for.) Not providing sufficient information.Ex: Just linking the workshop and not giving us the actual model path you want to use. The addon's size is way too big compared to its content(s).Ex: 35MB for one model. Majority negative feedback. Bad optimization and/or causes bad performance on the server. Having multiple suggestions within one thread. Bothering leadership/development team regarding a suggestion. Suggesting a previously denied suggestion within 60 days of denial. 1 Report Link to comment
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