CG Trainee WL (NO BATON)

[Tide]

Name: Tide

RP Rank: CPT

Suggestion: I would like CG to have a trainee WL it will have everything a normal CG WL has; EXCEPT the baton. I believe this will help cut down on false arrests and people being threatened with the baton. A learning period is needed for some individuals to fully become comfortable with when to properly arrest. I truly think it would not only help people who are innocent from being arrested, but it will foster a better CG imagine.

Implementation: I have talked to fellow officers in CG; we have come to a understanding that WL are limited. Therefore we as a group are willing to give up our normal trooper officer WL for a trainee WL. 

Lore: None

Workshop content if applicable:
(If no workshop content, suggest a developer or put "Require Development")

If you are asking to add or change a job, fill out the following if not, leave it out.

Add or Change: Remove baton from one CG WL and rename it to trainee.
(Any job modification requires all this information)

Job: Dealers choice; CG would like the normal CG officer WL to be the sacrifice!

Slots: 

Description: Add a trainee WL that doesn't have a baton; it would severely cut down on false arrests and baton abuse/baton flexing. Many individuals need time to learn when to properly arrest individuals.

Model:
(Provide the model string if on server Ex. models/player/synergy/cblake/ls_squad/ls_trp/lstrp.mdl (Get this from the Q menu)

Weapons: I don't think so; if anything it would be removing the baton "weapon".
(If you want a modfication to a weapon/saber you must put the weapon string in the suggestion. Ex. tfa_e5 (Get this from the Q menu))

Other:

Edited March 2, 2024 by Tide

[Tide 20]

Name: Tide

RP Rank: CPT

Suggestion: I would like CG to have a trainee WL it will have everything a normal CG WL has; EXCEPT the baton. I believe this will help cut down on false arrests and people being threatened with the baton. A learning period is needed for some individuals to fully become comfortable with when to properly arrest. I truly think it would not only help people who are innocent from being arrested, but it will foster a better CG imagine.

Implementation: I have talked to fellow officers in CG; we have come to a understanding that WL are limited. Therefore we as a group are willing to give up our normal trooper officer WL for a trainee WL. 

Lore: None

Workshop content if applicable:
(If no workshop content, suggest a developer or put "Require Development")

If you are asking to add or change a job, fill out the following if not, leave it out.

Add or Change: Remove baton from one CG WL and rename it to trainee.
(Any job modification requires all this information)

Job: Dealers choice; CG would like the normal CG officer WL to be the sacrifice!

Slots: 

Description: Add a trainee WL that doesn't have a baton; it would severely cut down on false arrests and baton abuse/baton flexing. Many individuals need time to learn when to properly arrest individuals.

Model:
(Provide the model string if on server Ex. models/player/synergy/cblake/ls_squad/ls_trp/lstrp.mdl (Get this from the Q menu)

Weapons: I don't think so; if anything it would be removing the baton "weapon".
(If you want a modfication to a weapon/saber you must put the weapon string in the suggestion. Ex. tfa_e5 (Get this from the Q menu))

Other:

Edited March 2, 2024 by Tide

[KaiserNeiner]

You're changing a job so you need to fill out the lower section of this ^ 

[KaiserNeiner 0]

You're changing a job so you need to fill out the lower section of this ^ 

[Marvel]

You don't have to give up a whitelist to add another. Y'all are not at the cap.

[Marvel 3,308]

You don't have to give up a whitelist to add another. Y'all are not at the cap.

[Tide]

Just now, Marvel said:

You don't have to give up a whitelist to add another. Y'all are not at the cap.

Papa bless!

 

[Tide 20]

Just now, Marvel said:

You don't have to give up a whitelist to add another. Y'all are not at the cap.

Papa bless!

 

[Banshoodle]

+1 YES

[Banshoodle 30]

+1 YES

[MingeCMD Leeroy]

+1 makes sense

Edited March 2, 2024 by Leeroy

[MingeCMD Leeroy 13]

+1 makes sense

Edited March 2, 2024 by Leeroy

[QuotableSkink]

+1 I would love to see the trainees be trained with the baton before having it

[QuotableSkink 9]

+1 I would love to see the trainees be trained with the baton before having it

[Chips]

+1 i see this as a way to give the enlisted more time to learn the server rules, and be able to approach situations with more understanding too often we find that its too much information to give some people all at once and bad calls on things keep happening. i want this for the improvement of us and the server as a whole.  

[Chips 32]

+1 i see this as a way to give the enlisted more time to learn the server rules, and be able to approach situations with more understanding too often we find that its too much information to give some people all at once and bad calls on things keep happening. i want this for the improvement of us and the server as a whole.  

[Moose_Wundo]

+1 This is a brilliant idea

[Moose_Wundo 214]

+1 This is a brilliant idea

[Danny]

+1. CG needs to go through some changes to improve, and I believe this is one of them. A Trainee WL would only benefit CG.

• The enlisted are usually the one's who arrest the least anyway due to it being a new experience which can cause them to carry out the arrest slower.
• In addition the enlisted are the people who don't understand the smaller details regarding when you should arrest and when you should warn them.
• Finally they are the group of people that struggle the most with staff sits regarding arrests due to their inexperience.

 

We can help mentor the trainees until they reach the rank of SGT and we believe they are responsible enough to arrest on their own.

[Danny 144]

+1. CG needs to go through some changes to improve, and I believe this is one of them. A Trainee WL would only benefit CG.

• The enlisted are usually the one's who arrest the least anyway due to it being a new experience which can cause them to carry out the arrest slower.
• In addition the enlisted are the people who don't understand the smaller details regarding when you should arrest and when you should warn them.
• Finally they are the group of people that struggle the most with staff sits regarding arrests due to their inexperience.

 

We can help mentor the trainees until they reach the rank of SGT and we believe they are responsible enough to arrest on their own.

[NexusRyan]

+1 I believe that this will drastically change the dynamic between other battalions and CG. This is a great idea

[NexusRyan 97]

+1 I believe that this will drastically change the dynamic between other battalions and CG. This is a great idea

[FrostBoy]

-CG Genodice "If you wanna say Mr Beast was on the island go ahead and do so"

I bet he was on the Island tbh.

[FrostBoy 0]

-CG Genodice "If you wanna say Mr Beast was on the island go ahead and do so"

I bet he was on the Island tbh.

[Gator]

+1 Honestly, it probably wont change relations. Cause usually its the higher ranks arresting, but it can be a good morale boost with the other battalions

[Gator 39]

+1 Honestly, it probably wont change relations. Cause usually its the higher ranks arresting, but it can be a good morale boost with the other battalions

[Juggernaut]

+1 I feel like this is a good idea because it will help give more time to people who just started as a CG time to learn how they should carry themselves properly with such a responsibility

[Juggernaut 121]

+1 I feel like this is a good idea because it will help give more time to people who just started as a CG time to learn how they should carry themselves properly with such a responsibility

[Underpaidstaff]

+1

 

[Underpaidstaff 192]

+1

 

[blazin]

+1 solid idea, def moving in the right direction

[blazin 308]

+1 solid idea, def moving in the right direction

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Tide said:

I would like CG to have a trainee WL it will have everything a normal CG WL has; EXCEPT the baton. I believe this will help cut down on false arrests and people being threatened with the baton. A learning period is needed for some individuals to fully become comfortable with when to properly arrest. I truly think it would not only help people who are innocent from being arrested, but it will foster a better CG imagine.

Can you please outline the period more? How concrete is this idea with CG and how many officers have backed it?

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Tide said:

I would like CG to have a trainee WL it will have everything a normal CG WL has; EXCEPT the baton. I believe this will help cut down on false arrests and people being threatened with the baton. A learning period is needed for some individuals to fully become comfortable with when to properly arrest. I truly think it would not only help people who are innocent from being arrested, but it will foster a better CG imagine.

Can you please outline the period more? How concrete is this idea with CG and how many officers have backed it?

[Tide]

37 minutes ago, Bacta said:

Can you please outline the period more? How concrete is this idea with CG and how many officers have backed it?

The trainee period would depend on each individual person and how long it takes them to learn. CG however is working on internal documents to gauge a persons readiness for baton use. I would say in most cases the trainee period would be 5-7 days. We are also working on a mentorship program to help enlisted in difficult situations they may encounter. In regards to the officer core of CG; currently we have the majority in favor of it. 

[Tide 20]

37 minutes ago, Bacta said:

Can you please outline the period more? How concrete is this idea with CG and how many officers have backed it?

The trainee period would depend on each individual person and how long it takes them to learn. CG however is working on internal documents to gauge a persons readiness for baton use. I would say in most cases the trainee period would be 5-7 days. We are also working on a mentorship program to help enlisted in difficult situations they may encounter. In regards to the officer core of CG; currently we have the majority in favor of it. 

[Cucumber]

Is Vorix on board with this as he is most likely the next BCMD?

[Cucumber 43]

Is Vorix on board with this as he is most likely the next BCMD?

[Tide]

17 minutes ago, Cucumber said:

Is Vorix on board with this as he is most likely the next BCMD?

Indeed, Vorix is fully in support of this change being added to CG!

[Tide 20]

17 minutes ago, Cucumber said:

Is Vorix on board with this as he is most likely the next BCMD?

Indeed, Vorix is fully in support of this change being added to CG!

[Cucumber]

+1 Seems like most of CG is behind it

[Cucumber 43]

+1 Seems like most of CG is behind it

[Vorix]

18 minutes ago, Cucumber said:

Is Vorix on board with this as he is most likely the next BCMD?

Hey there Cucumber! I am definitely on board with this.  This has been something I have brought up with fellow Coruscant Guard in the past, and was told it would never happen. I would love to see this suggestion go through.

[Vorix 17]

18 minutes ago, Cucumber said:

Is Vorix on board with this as he is most likely the next BCMD?

Hey there Cucumber! I am definitely on board with this.  This has been something I have brought up with fellow Coruscant Guard in the past, and was told it would never happen. I would love to see this suggestion go through.

[Clutch]

+1 good idea

[Clutch 596]

+1 good idea

[Darklord2996]

+1

[Darklord2996 2]

+1

[Finn]

+1 but like, a real slight one

 

I hope CG realizes that if they restrict who can arrest, everyone else has to compensate that lower number.

[Finn 730]

+1 but like, a real slight one

 

I hope CG realizes that if they restrict who can arrest, everyone else has to compensate that lower number.

[Tide]

22 minutes ago, Finn said:

+1 but like, a real slight one

 

I hope CG realizes that if they restrict who can arrest, everyone else has to compensate that lower number.

We are fully preparing for that change in numbers; by the time the suggestion is implemented our NCO core and above will be ready to step up 

[Tide 20]

22 minutes ago, Finn said:

+1 but like, a real slight one

 

I hope CG realizes that if they restrict who can arrest, everyone else has to compensate that lower number.

We are fully preparing for that change in numbers; by the time the suggestion is implemented our NCO core and above will be ready to step up 

[Finn]

20 minutes ago, Tide said:

We are fully preparing for that change in numbers; by the time the suggestion is implemented our NCO core and above will be ready to step up 

Ok just making sure, cause half your battalion is enlisted, that's a lot of pressure to move to your NCOs.

[Finn 730]

20 minutes ago, Tide said:

We are fully preparing for that change in numbers; by the time the suggestion is implemented our NCO core and above will be ready to step up 

Ok just making sure, cause half your battalion is enlisted, that's a lot of pressure to move to your NCOs.

[Kortnul]

+1 Ye

[Kortnul 151]

+1 Ye

[Hanz]

24 minutes ago, Kortnul said:

+1 Ye

[Hanz 671]

24 minutes ago, Kortnul said:

+1 Ye

[Jhonnyblaze24]

+1  this would be very helpful on the server 

[Jhonnyblaze24 51]

+1  this would be very helpful on the server 

[Centurion]

+1 I think a trainee whitelist will be a good thing. It'll prevent minges being a huge issue when they get into CG since they have to dedicate at least 3 additional days to be able to arrest someone will get them impatient and removed from the position before they become an issue. And also using it as a training period for you enlisted to get used to the server its rules, and situations will be a great addition. Good luck with this!

- Spartan | Centurion

[Centurion 69]

+1 I think a trainee whitelist will be a good thing. It'll prevent minges being a huge issue when they get into CG since they have to dedicate at least 3 additional days to be able to arrest someone will get them impatient and removed from the position before they become an issue. And also using it as a training period for you enlisted to get used to the server its rules, and situations will be a great addition. Good luck with this!

- Spartan | Centurion

[Misfit1]

Did you recieve permission for this? as there is no current BCMD you must ask management for permission. @Tide

If you got proper permissions i would +1 this.

Edited March 4, 2024 by Misfit1

[Misfit1 82]

Did you recieve permission for this? as there is no current BCMD you must ask management for permission. @Tide

If you got proper permissions i would +1 this.

Edited March 4, 2024 by Misfit1

[Edgar]

15 minutes ago, Misfit1 said:

Did you recieve permission for this? as there is no current BCMD you must ask management for permission. @Tide

If you got proper permissions i would +1 this.

I would assume he got Permission from Shady considering this was posted the day after his Term ended. +1

[Edgar 131]

15 minutes ago, Misfit1 said:

Did you recieve permission for this? as there is no current BCMD you must ask management for permission. @Tide

If you got proper permissions i would +1 this.

I would assume he got Permission from Shady considering this was posted the day after his Term ended. +1

[Tide]

1 hour ago, Misfit1 said:

Did you recieve permission for this? as there is no current BCMD you must ask management for permission. @Tide

If you got proper permissions i would +1 this.

Unsure of which management you are referring to whether it be directors+ or CG management. I did inform multiple people that I wanted this to be added CG. From everyone I talked to the only response I ever got was a "Its never going to happen" and never a direct "no".  

1 hour ago, Edgar said:

I would assume he got Permission from Shady considering this was posted the day after his Term ended. +1

Shady never directly said yes or no. He was more on the line of thought "its never going to happen". I figured the worse that could happen is that this suggestion gets giga -1'd and CG figures out a different plan.

[Tide 20]

1 hour ago, Misfit1 said:

Did you recieve permission for this? as there is no current BCMD you must ask management for permission. @Tide

If you got proper permissions i would +1 this.

Unsure of which management you are referring to whether it be directors+ or CG management. I did inform multiple people that I wanted this to be added CG. From everyone I talked to the only response I ever got was a "Its never going to happen" and never a direct "no".  

1 hour ago, Edgar said:

I would assume he got Permission from Shady considering this was posted the day after his Term ended. +1

Shady never directly said yes or no. He was more on the line of thought "its never going to happen". I figured the worse that could happen is that this suggestion gets giga -1'd and CG figures out a different plan.

[Misfit1]

1 hour ago, Tide said:

Unsure of which management you are referring to whether it be directors+ or CG management. I did inform multiple people that I wanted this to be added CG. From everyone I talked to the only response I ever got was a "Its never going to happen" and never a direct "no".  

Shady never directly said yes or no. He was more on the line of thought "its never going to happen". I figured the worse that could happen is that this suggestion gets giga -1'd and CG figures out a different plan.

Hey so if you looked at server suggestion guidelines CG need to get BCMD permission to post suggestions and without that they need to go to managment and that means Marvel would have to approve the suggestion to post.

[Misfit1 82]

1 hour ago, Tide said:

Unsure of which management you are referring to whether it be directors+ or CG management. I did inform multiple people that I wanted this to be added CG. From everyone I talked to the only response I ever got was a "Its never going to happen" and never a direct "no".  

Shady never directly said yes or no. He was more on the line of thought "its never going to happen". I figured the worse that could happen is that this suggestion gets giga -1'd and CG figures out a different plan.

Hey so if you looked at server suggestion guidelines CG need to get BCMD permission to post suggestions and without that they need to go to managment and that means Marvel would have to approve the suggestion to post.

[Tide]

1 minute ago, Misfit1 said:

Hey so if you looked at server suggestion guidelines CG need to get BCMD permission to post suggestions and without that they need to go to managment and that means Marvel would have to approve the suggestion to post.

I will contact forum staff to get the post removed and contact management so I can repost it

[Tide 20]

1 minute ago, Misfit1 said:

Hey so if you looked at server suggestion guidelines CG need to get BCMD permission to post suggestions and without that they need to go to managment and that means Marvel would have to approve the suggestion to post.

I will contact forum staff to get the post removed and contact management so I can repost it

[Guac]

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If the same suggestion is submitted again within 60 DAYS of this post it will be automatically denied.

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[Guac 573]

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If the same suggestion is submitted again within 60 DAYS of this post it will be automatically denied.

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