Drain the swamp

[Conrad]

Name: Conrad

RP Rank: Major/Master

Suggestion: Remove most (maybe leave the one biggest one) of the lakes on sector 2 and replace them with just flat land. I think this will be a benefit for builders, as they constantly build large scale dupes on sector 2 and have to work around the lakes, setting props over them to cover them. The transition to more flat land will make it just a bit easier to build down there giving Completely open and flat area's to build in for large sized dupes. I think that sector 2 should be a bit emptier to allow for GM's to have a bit more freedom of customization in the dupes they build.

(Have talked to a couple of GM's that seem to like this idea, so lets see what everyone thinks!)

Implementation: Map Update

[Conrad 2,465]

Name: Conrad

RP Rank: Major/Master

Suggestion: Remove most (maybe leave the one biggest one) of the lakes on sector 2 and replace them with just flat land. I think this will be a benefit for builders, as they constantly build large scale dupes on sector 2 and have to work around the lakes, setting props over them to cover them. The transition to more flat land will make it just a bit easier to build down there giving Completely open and flat area's to build in for large sized dupes. I think that sector 2 should be a bit emptier to allow for GM's to have a bit more freedom of customization in the dupes they build.

(Have talked to a couple of GM's that seem to like this idea, so lets see what everyone thinks!)

Implementation: Map Update

[Unclegennybee]

Huge +1, its hard to build around/over the water areas sometimes, flat ground would be peak for builders!

[Unclegennybee 97]

Huge +1, its hard to build around/over the water areas sometimes, flat ground would be peak for builders!

[Charles]

Funny that I was writing up a map update at the same time you posted this. I agree the area needs more vitalization. It's very tedious to have to work around the water when it would be easier for flat land.

+1

[Charles 178]

Funny that I was writing up a map update at the same time you posted this. I agree the area needs more vitalization. It's very tedious to have to work around the water when it would be easier for flat land.

+1

[Zar]

+1 I personally would build more if the water wasn't such a pivotal problem. I do think it would be cool to leave one just to send men around the waters, but overall it's an extreme hindrance. 

[Zar 116]

+1 I personally would build more if the water wasn't such a pivotal problem. I do think it would be cool to leave one just to send men around the waters, but overall it's an extreme hindrance. 

[KaiserNeiner]

-1 I understand the sentiment I just like the current layout of S2 EXCEPT WE NEED A SECTOR 2 OUTPOST. 

[KaiserNeiner 0]

-1 I understand the sentiment I just like the current layout of S2 EXCEPT WE NEED A SECTOR 2 OUTPOST. 

[Conrad]

4 minutes ago, KaiserNeiner said:

-1 I understand the sentiment I just like the current layout of S2 EXCEPT WE NEED A SECTOR 2 OUTPOST. 

I want to throw out that there are currently 4 large lakes taking up what feels like about 1/3 of the space in sector 2. You don't need to get rid of all of them, maybe even only half. But there should be some purely flat area to make it a bit easier to build. Basically i just believe that their should be more variety so GM's can have more options.

Edited January 3, 2025 by Conrad

[Conrad 2,465]

4 minutes ago, KaiserNeiner said:

-1 I understand the sentiment I just like the current layout of S2 EXCEPT WE NEED A SECTOR 2 OUTPOST. 

I want to throw out that there are currently 4 large lakes taking up what feels like about 1/3 of the space in sector 2. You don't need to get rid of all of them, maybe even only half. But there should be some purely flat area to make it a bit easier to build. Basically i just believe that their should be more variety so GM's can have more options.

Edited January 3, 2025 by Conrad

[Artemis]

The map definitely needs ALOT of work, it isn't just Sector 2 that is suffering, but the hitboxes and rock work is HORRIBLE. I've never had so much trouble traversing terrain when a single miss step or wonky hitbox on a rock sends me into a giant crevice that I have to call admins to get out of. But yea, less water in Sector 2 sounds great.

[Artemis 9]

The map definitely needs ALOT of work, it isn't just Sector 2 that is suffering, but the hitboxes and rock work is HORRIBLE. I've never had so much trouble traversing terrain when a single miss step or wonky hitbox on a rock sends me into a giant crevice that I have to call admins to get out of. But yea, less water in Sector 2 sounds great.

[KillJoy]

+1 could replace a lake with a base that it a couple of floors with an outside wall. 

[KillJoy 566]

+1 could replace a lake with a base that it a couple of floors with an outside wall. 

[Niick]

+1 this would only be a benefit to the server.

[Niick 2]

+1 this would only be a benefit to the server.

[Marvel]

The Halo Reach Grid will cover these bodies of water perfectly and create a flat area to build on. I don’t really see a need to make edits when there is a simple fix that’s the best of both worlds.

GM wants a body of water? Leave it alone. GM wants flat ground? Halo Reach Grid. Getting rid of the water gets rid of the option since we can’t spawn in water. I know they don’t add much but there’s a simple fix that’s doesn’t require edits to the map. Especially when there could probably be more beneficial edits like an outpost or something else.

-1

[Marvel 3,308]

The Halo Reach Grid will cover these bodies of water perfectly and create a flat area to build on. I don’t really see a need to make edits when there is a simple fix that’s the best of both worlds.

GM wants a body of water? Leave it alone. GM wants flat ground? Halo Reach Grid. Getting rid of the water gets rid of the option since we can’t spawn in water. I know they don’t add much but there’s a simple fix that’s doesn’t require edits to the map. Especially when there could probably be more beneficial edits like an outpost or something else.

-1

[Racoon]

+1

[Racoon 20]

+1

[Upset Saint]

+1 great idea would be great for GM team 

[Upset Saint 91]

+1 great idea would be great for GM team 

[Moose_Wundo]

+1

[Moose_Wundo 214]

+1

[Rohan]

-1, Just put a grid over it if you want to to be flat ground- will be a maximum of 3 props if u do this. The water can help a lot for different scenarios that can be held in sector 2.

[Rohan 606]

-1, Just put a grid over it if you want to to be flat ground- will be a maximum of 3 props if u do this. The water can help a lot for different scenarios that can be held in sector 2.

[Stormzy]

-1 to the idea of making it a flat ground but

+1 to adding either an outpost or some sort of structures there to fix it up

[Stormzy 223]

-1 to the idea of making it a flat ground but

+1 to adding either an outpost or some sort of structures there to fix it up

[Gobo The Great]

On 1/3/2025 at 11:16 PM, Marvel said:

The Halo Reach Grid will cover these bodies of water perfectly and create a flat area to build on. I don’t really see a need to make edits when there is a simple fix that’s the best of both worlds.

GM wants a body of water? Leave it alone. GM wants flat ground? Halo Reach Grid. Getting rid of the water gets rid of the option since we can’t spawn in water. I know they don’t add much but there’s a simple fix that’s doesn’t require edits to the map. Especially when there could probably be more beneficial edits like an outpost or something else.

-1

I disagree, the Grid prop is atleast 5-10 props which can extend the prop limit for no reason. The water adds nothing at all execpt a non usable area because, we dont have any vehicles other than the barc that cant drive on it too fast.

+1. ONE flat area would be great to build on

Edited January 5, 2025 by Casanova

[Gobo The Great 49]

On 1/3/2025 at 11:16 PM, Marvel said:

The Halo Reach Grid will cover these bodies of water perfectly and create a flat area to build on. I don’t really see a need to make edits when there is a simple fix that’s the best of both worlds.

GM wants a body of water? Leave it alone. GM wants flat ground? Halo Reach Grid. Getting rid of the water gets rid of the option since we can’t spawn in water. I know they don’t add much but there’s a simple fix that’s doesn’t require edits to the map. Especially when there could probably be more beneficial edits like an outpost or something else.

-1

I disagree, the Grid prop is atleast 5-10 props which can extend the prop limit for no reason. The water adds nothing at all execpt a non usable area because, we dont have any vehicles other than the barc that cant drive on it too fast.

+1. ONE flat area would be great to build on

Edited January 5, 2025 by Casanova

[Bane]

+1 Brother we need the flat land

[Bane 232]

+1 Brother we need the flat land

[Kaner]

Maybe flat land on claimable, the rest can keep a similar format? Just because yes it's 3 props but the grid has that weird texture thing where is turns black at certain angles even materialised and that can kinda make dupes very ugly. I do agree that a Sector 2 Outpost would be nice, although I feel with the addition of it; we would need to rethink the names we give to Northern and Western so it's more uniform

[Kaner 61]

Maybe flat land on claimable, the rest can keep a similar format? Just because yes it's 3 props but the grid has that weird texture thing where is turns black at certain angles even materialised and that can kinda make dupes very ugly. I do agree that a Sector 2 Outpost would be nice, although I feel with the addition of it; we would need to rethink the names we give to Northern and Western so it's more uniform

[Banagite]

-1 I already have dupes I have made that include the water, I really don't wanna have to remake them. Simply put a grid over the water. Yes give outpost for sector 2.

[Banagite 140]

-1 I already have dupes I have made that include the water, I really don't wanna have to remake them. Simply put a grid over the water. Yes give outpost for sector 2.

[Ajax-Evo]

+1 I personally agree when it comes to building it can be irriating, also an outpost would be huge in sector 2

[Ajax-Evo 98]

+1 I personally agree when it comes to building it can be irriating, also an outpost would be huge in sector 2

[Zeros]

+1, The Grid argument is fundamentally flawed by two points: it looks unnatural and is impossible to match to the surrounding area AND the shadow issues that grids have always had.
I'd prefer to see the ground of my dupe rather than an all black void when I look at it except from one specific angle. If you like water, cool, there's still gonna be a lake or two in the sector. The sector doesn't need FOUR separate lakes though, that's excessive and a waste of good flat land we could have.

[Zeros 315]

+1, The Grid argument is fundamentally flawed by two points: it looks unnatural and is impossible to match to the surrounding area AND the shadow issues that grids have always had.
I'd prefer to see the ground of my dupe rather than an all black void when I look at it except from one specific angle. If you like water, cool, there's still gonna be a lake or two in the sector. The sector doesn't need FOUR separate lakes though, that's excessive and a waste of good flat land we could have.

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