Give Improcco Jet Packs

[Tetra]

Name: Tetra

RP Rank: CMD

Suggestion: GIVE IMPROCCO JETPACKS.

Implementation: Add jetpacks to every member of Improcco Company, Gett, Clanky, Fi, Nye, and Tenn.

Lore: Improcco Company provided back up for Omega and Delta squads when working anti-terror ops. The most important aspect of running counter insurgency operations is being able to get around easily and perform reconnaissance.

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Job: Improcco Gett, Nye, Clanky, Fi, Tenn

Slots: N/A

Description: 41st is, essentially, the only battalion without any form of Jet Trooper, which is bizarre since we are a reconnaissance battalion and would benefit greatly from performing aerial reconnaissance. As it stands right now, Improcco Company essentially have no reason to exist except as a recolor of our other regiments. They have really cool models that already have bodygroupers for jetpacks, so no change would need to be made there. This will provide a much needed boost to their popularity within and outside of the battalion.

Model: N/A

Weapons: N/A

Other: sent_boosterpack

Edited December 23, 2024 by Tetra
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[Tetra 141]

Name: Tetra

RP Rank: CMD

Suggestion: GIVE IMPROCCO JETPACKS.

Implementation: Add jetpacks to every member of Improcco Company, Gett, Clanky, Fi, Nye, and Tenn.

Lore: Improcco Company provided back up for Omega and Delta squads when working anti-terror ops. The most important aspect of running counter insurgency operations is being able to get around easily and perform reconnaissance.

Workshop content if applicable: N/A

If you are asking to add or change a job, fill out the following if not, leave it out.

Add or Change: Change

Job: Improcco Gett, Nye, Clanky, Fi, Tenn

Slots: N/A

Description: 41st is, essentially, the only battalion without any form of Jet Trooper, which is bizarre since we are a reconnaissance battalion and would benefit greatly from performing aerial reconnaissance. As it stands right now, Improcco Company essentially have no reason to exist except as a recolor of our other regiments. They have really cool models that already have bodygroupers for jetpacks, so no change would need to be made there. This will provide a much needed boost to their popularity within and outside of the battalion.

Model: N/A

Weapons: N/A

Other: sent_boosterpack

Edited December 23, 2024 by Tetra
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[Caro]

Please Give us Jetpacks, 41st needs something that attracts players to join, This will do it. 

We also have the bodygroupers for it so yeah.

+1 

[Caro 4]

Please Give us Jetpacks, 41st needs something that attracts players to join, This will do it. 

We also have the bodygroupers for it so yeah.

+1 

[Ryanx]

+1 W

[Ryanx 46]

+1 W

[BROPDROP]

+1 it never made sense to me why there is a bodygroupr for a jetpack when they do not have them, and Improcco could really benefit from a update to the kit

[BROPDROP 395]

+1 it never made sense to me why there is a bodygroupr for a jetpack when they do not have them, and Improcco could really benefit from a update to the kit

[Hudson]

+1 It's in the bodygroupr.

Not to mention, what does Improcco have that makes it distinct besides cool armor and counter-insurgency focus?

How is a counter-insurgent meant to take up and advantageous position against a foe without some way of getting to that advantageous position. Hence the jetpack.

[Hudson 143]

+1 It's in the bodygroupr.

Not to mention, what does Improcco have that makes it distinct besides cool armor and counter-insurgency focus?

How is a counter-insurgent meant to take up and advantageous position against a foe without some way of getting to that advantageous position. Hence the jetpack.

[Stryker]

+1

[Stryker 4]

+1

[Reborn]

+1 They already have the body grouper might as well

[Reborn 147]

+1 They already have the body grouper might as well

[Marvel]

Personally I’m skeptical because there are already a large amount of jobs with jetpacks on the server as it is. The entire reason we removed battalion jet trooper jobs was to limit jetpacks for the sake of performance. Ever since then however we’ve constantly been adding more and more back with the addition of DD, Null, 332nd jetpacks, etc. I’m afraid we’re right back to where we started.

However Improcco is a pretty small unit. I think 5 people so maybe 5 won’t kill the server I just hope this is where it finally stops. +1

(Also I don’t think a bodygroupr is a good argument!)

[Marvel 3,308]

Personally I’m skeptical because there are already a large amount of jobs with jetpacks on the server as it is. The entire reason we removed battalion jet trooper jobs was to limit jetpacks for the sake of performance. Ever since then however we’ve constantly been adding more and more back with the addition of DD, Null, 332nd jetpacks, etc. I’m afraid we’re right back to where we started.

However Improcco is a pretty small unit. I think 5 people so maybe 5 won’t kill the server I just hope this is where it finally stops. +1

(Also I don’t think a bodygroupr is a good argument!)

[Tackle1]

+1, would make the improcco kit more rewarding to those who join 

[Tackle1 17]

+1, would make the improcco kit more rewarding to those who join 

[Conrad]

-1

This takes away too much from other sub units on the server. Instead I would prefer to see something unique be added (Perhaps even developed by our development team!) then just taking something from another sub unit and putting it into yours. Things should become more unique, not just copies of each other.

[Conrad 2,465]

-1

This takes away too much from other sub units on the server. Instead I would prefer to see something unique be added (Perhaps even developed by our development team!) then just taking something from another sub unit and putting it into yours. Things should become more unique, not just copies of each other.

[Reborn]

10 minutes ago, Conrad said:

-1

This takes away too much from other sub units on the server. Instead I would prefer to see something unique be added (Perhaps even developed by our development team!) then just taking something from another sub unit and putting it into yours. Things should become more unique, not just copies of each other.

Every other battalion has jetpacks at this point, think its long past that tbh

[Reborn 147]

10 minutes ago, Conrad said:

-1

This takes away too much from other sub units on the server. Instead I would prefer to see something unique be added (Perhaps even developed by our development team!) then just taking something from another sub unit and putting it into yours. Things should become more unique, not just copies of each other.

Every other battalion has jetpacks at this point, think its long past that tbh

[Upset Saint]

+1

[Upset Saint 91]

+1

[Conrad]

Just now, Reborn said:

Every other battalion has jetpacks at this point, think its long past that tbh

I disagree! We should be pushing to make more unique things on the server, not more things that are similar or the same. By creating more unique things we creating battalions that are more able to fill specific niches, and have new and exciting things to draw players! To say "every other battalion has jetpacks" is a very standardization mindset, which is a negative for the server in my opinion. I know its hard to think of new and unique things, but i think the development team has shown their are new things we can do after the drop of 241st and the infiltrator class. I'd recommend reaching out to them and trying to generate new and exciting ideas, not more of the same!

[Conrad 2,465]

Just now, Reborn said:

Every other battalion has jetpacks at this point, think its long past that tbh

I disagree! We should be pushing to make more unique things on the server, not more things that are similar or the same. By creating more unique things we creating battalions that are more able to fill specific niches, and have new and exciting things to draw players! To say "every other battalion has jetpacks" is a very standardization mindset, which is a negative for the server in my opinion. I know its hard to think of new and unique things, but i think the development team has shown their are new things we can do after the drop of 241st and the infiltrator class. I'd recommend reaching out to them and trying to generate new and exciting ideas, not more of the same!

[BROPDROP]

14 minutes ago, Conrad said:

-1

This takes away too much from other sub units on the server. Instead I would prefer to see something unique be added (Perhaps even developed by our development team!) then just taking something from another sub unit and putting it into yours. Things should become more unique, not just copies of each other.

Isn’t Infiltraitor just SO with a special little hologram?

[BROPDROP 395]

14 minutes ago, Conrad said:

-1

This takes away too much from other sub units on the server. Instead I would prefer to see something unique be added (Perhaps even developed by our development team!) then just taking something from another sub unit and putting it into yours. Things should become more unique, not just copies of each other.

Isn’t Infiltraitor just SO with a special little hologram?

[Marvel]

12 minutes ago, Conrad said:

-1

This takes away too much from other sub units on the server. Instead I would prefer to see something unique be added (Perhaps even developed by our development team!) then just taking something from another sub unit and putting it into yours. Things should become more unique, not just copies of each other.

While I agree with the sentiment I don’t agree with relying on development. There’s no telling what could happen if they go down that route. Their suggestion might not be able to be implemented or could take a long time to implement. Ultimately it wouldn’t hurt to give them jetpacks for the time being allow them to come up with a suggestion for something entirely different and swap the jetpacks out if it goes through. Otherwise they’re just stuck as they are with no real appeal other than models and they’d just be taking shots in the dark with suggestions that may never happen.

Or if they absolutely love jetpacks then they can stick with them. There’s already plenty of units with them so it isn’t really anything unique. However it is something unique to 41st and at the end of the day that’s what matters to them. Something to incentivize their normal day to day troopers to want to join IC and stick around.

[Marvel 3,308]

12 minutes ago, Conrad said:

-1

This takes away too much from other sub units on the server. Instead I would prefer to see something unique be added (Perhaps even developed by our development team!) then just taking something from another sub unit and putting it into yours. Things should become more unique, not just copies of each other.

While I agree with the sentiment I don’t agree with relying on development. There’s no telling what could happen if they go down that route. Their suggestion might not be able to be implemented or could take a long time to implement. Ultimately it wouldn’t hurt to give them jetpacks for the time being allow them to come up with a suggestion for something entirely different and swap the jetpacks out if it goes through. Otherwise they’re just stuck as they are with no real appeal other than models and they’d just be taking shots in the dark with suggestions that may never happen.

Or if they absolutely love jetpacks then they can stick with them. There’s already plenty of units with them so it isn’t really anything unique. However it is something unique to 41st and at the end of the day that’s what matters to them. Something to incentivize their normal day to day troopers to want to join IC and stick around.

[Conrad]

12 minutes ago, BROPDROP said:

Isn’t Infiltraitor just SO with a special little hologram?

Right now the only other clones with cloaks are Omega squad. And no one else has the hologram. The hologram is quite a interesting thing, it is targeted by NPC's and has a health bar. This means it can be used to draw fire while you stealth away, or as a shield to block fire. It stays around for a good bit of time and runs forward, which i can see being used in RP for some interesting things down the line. In my opinion, this is about as unique as it gets. Not everything needs to be game breaking or world shaking. Its not a gun or jetpack, but its fun(I know i want to be one!), and unique on the server. Again you're looking at what other people have, not thinking about new things that could be created or developed.

  

4 minutes ago, Marvel said:

While I agree with the sentiment I don’t agree with relying on development. There’s no telling what could happen if they go down that route. Their suggestion might not be able to be implemented or could take a long time to implement.

That is a good point, but after speaking with xaze and jayarr very in depth as we're good friends, i know that quite a bit can become reality now. I remember med revives being a thing back in 2018 and all they did is crash the server. Now we have something that works, and works well. This is the strongest the dev team has ever been by a mile.

Edited December 24, 2024 by Conrad

[Conrad 2,465]

12 minutes ago, BROPDROP said:

Isn’t Infiltraitor just SO with a special little hologram?

Right now the only other clones with cloaks are Omega squad. And no one else has the hologram. The hologram is quite a interesting thing, it is targeted by NPC's and has a health bar. This means it can be used to draw fire while you stealth away, or as a shield to block fire. It stays around for a good bit of time and runs forward, which i can see being used in RP for some interesting things down the line. In my opinion, this is about as unique as it gets. Not everything needs to be game breaking or world shaking. Its not a gun or jetpack, but its fun(I know i want to be one!), and unique on the server. Again you're looking at what other people have, not thinking about new things that could be created or developed.

  

4 minutes ago, Marvel said:

While I agree with the sentiment I don’t agree with relying on development. There’s no telling what could happen if they go down that route. Their suggestion might not be able to be implemented or could take a long time to implement.

That is a good point, but after speaking with xaze and jayarr very in depth as we're good friends, i know that quite a bit can become reality now. I remember med revives being a thing back in 2018 and all they did is crash the server. Now we have something that works, and works well. This is the strongest the dev team has ever been by a mile.

Edited December 24, 2024 by Conrad

[Joyboy]

13 minutes ago, Conrad said:

By creating more unique things we creating battalions that are more able to fill specific niches, and have new and exciting things to draw players! To say "every other battalion has jetpacks" is a very standardization mindset, which is a negative for the server in my opinion.

I'm pretty sure they asked for Improcco to get Bowcasters at some point, and I'm pretty sure it got denied. So 41st tried to get something unique and interesting and it went no where for them, might as well ask for jetpacks. 

+1 because I realized I haven't yet

[Joyboy 373]

13 minutes ago, Conrad said:

By creating more unique things we creating battalions that are more able to fill specific niches, and have new and exciting things to draw players! To say "every other battalion has jetpacks" is a very standardization mindset, which is a negative for the server in my opinion.

I'm pretty sure they asked for Improcco to get Bowcasters at some point, and I'm pretty sure it got denied. So 41st tried to get something unique and interesting and it went no where for them, might as well ask for jetpacks. 

+1 because I realized I haven't yet

[Hudson]

26 minutes ago, Conrad said:

-1

This takes away too much from other sub units on the server. Instead I would prefer to see something unique be added (Perhaps even developed by our development team!) then just taking something from another sub unit and putting it into yours. Things should become more unique, not just copies of each other.

I understand that the need for something unique but realistically, what would you suggest? If you can qualify something that can be used in a counter-insurgency setting that isn't on the server already, I'd be with you. But realistically, there's finite options and resources.

[Hudson 143]

26 minutes ago, Conrad said:

-1

This takes away too much from other sub units on the server. Instead I would prefer to see something unique be added (Perhaps even developed by our development team!) then just taking something from another sub unit and putting it into yours. Things should become more unique, not just copies of each other.

I understand that the need for something unique but realistically, what would you suggest? If you can qualify something that can be used in a counter-insurgency setting that isn't on the server already, I'd be with you. But realistically, there's finite options and resources.

[BROPDROP]

4 minutes ago, Conrad said:

Right now the only other clones with cloaks are Omega squad. And no one else has the hologram. The hologram is quite a interesting thing, it is targeted by NPC's and has a health bar. This means it can be used to draw fire while you stealth away, or as a shield to block fire. It stays around for a good bit of time and runs forward, which i can see being used in RP for some interesting things down the line. In my opinion, this is about as unique as it gets. Not everything needs to be game breaking or world shaking. Its not a gun or jetpack, but its fun(I know i want to be one!), and unique on the server. Again you're looking at what other people have, not thinking about new things that could be created or developed.

  

That is a good point, but after speaking with xaze and jayarr very in depth as we're good friends, i know that quite a bit can become reality now. I remember med revives being a thing back in 2018 and all they did is crash the server. Now we have something that works, and works well. This is the strongest the dev team has ever been by a mile.

I get the uniqueness part of it I do but like marvel said you need to look at what they would prefer and since I joined the server and my 2 terms as Gree all Improcco members wanted was jetpacks, I even worked with Improcco Lead Blank and others outside who were apart of the  minimal people who had said items to work towards each Improcco member getting a more unique kit. Like turning Tenn into one of 41sts HVO slots, Giving only Nye the jetpack bc he was a pilot, giving Fi a bacta Grenade due to the close work between Delta and Omega that Improcco did but it got Ignored

[BROPDROP 395]

4 minutes ago, Conrad said:

Right now the only other clones with cloaks are Omega squad. And no one else has the hologram. The hologram is quite a interesting thing, it is targeted by NPC's and has a health bar. This means it can be used to draw fire while you stealth away, or as a shield to block fire. It stays around for a good bit of time and runs forward, which i can see being used in RP for some interesting things down the line. In my opinion, this is about as unique as it gets. Not everything needs to be game breaking or world shaking. Its not a gun or jetpack, but its fun(I know i want to be one!), and unique on the server. Again you're looking at what other people have, not thinking about new things that could be created or developed.

  

That is a good point, but after speaking with xaze and jayarr very in depth as we're good friends, i know that quite a bit can become reality now. I remember med revives being a thing back in 2018 and all they did is crash the server. Now we have something that works, and works well. This is the strongest the dev team has ever been by a mile.

I get the uniqueness part of it I do but like marvel said you need to look at what they would prefer and since I joined the server and my 2 terms as Gree all Improcco members wanted was jetpacks, I even worked with Improcco Lead Blank and others outside who were apart of the  minimal people who had said items to work towards each Improcco member getting a more unique kit. Like turning Tenn into one of 41sts HVO slots, Giving only Nye the jetpack bc he was a pilot, giving Fi a bacta Grenade due to the close work between Delta and Omega that Improcco did but it got Ignored

[Conrad]

1 minute ago, Hudson said:

I understand that the need for something unique but realistically, what would you suggest? If you can qualify something that can be used in a counter-insurgency setting that isn't on the server already, I'd be with you. But realistically, there's finite options and resources.

I'm not saying i have all the answers, but i never would have thought of the the decoy that was created. Now this is something thats kind of just taken from halo infinite. I'd look to other games and see what things they have that might work in ours. Off the top of my head, from just halo alone, Armor Lock, Drop Shield, and Evade all work in this game. That was a 10 second google search on the halopedia wiki. We have more options for sure!

[Conrad 2,465]

1 minute ago, Hudson said:

I understand that the need for something unique but realistically, what would you suggest? If you can qualify something that can be used in a counter-insurgency setting that isn't on the server already, I'd be with you. But realistically, there's finite options and resources.

I'm not saying i have all the answers, but i never would have thought of the the decoy that was created. Now this is something thats kind of just taken from halo infinite. I'd look to other games and see what things they have that might work in ours. Off the top of my head, from just halo alone, Armor Lock, Drop Shield, and Evade all work in this game. That was a 10 second google search on the halopedia wiki. We have more options for sure!

[Thordan]

IC is one the coolest looking subunits and they got lore attaching them to SOBDE. Give em something cool! +1

[Thordan 111]

IC is one the coolest looking subunits and they got lore attaching them to SOBDE. Give em something cool! +1

[Finn]

-1

Just because the model has a jetpack doesn't mean you should just get one. There are already enough battalions that have jetpacks, adding to that list will only make the existing jetpack users less unique.

If 41st wants something to make the battalion stand out, they should look for things that other battalions don't already have.

[Finn 730]

-1

Just because the model has a jetpack doesn't mean you should just get one. There are already enough battalions that have jetpacks, adding to that list will only make the existing jetpack users less unique.

If 41st wants something to make the battalion stand out, they should look for things that other battalions don't already have.

[Tetra]

1 minute ago, Finn said:

-1

Just because the model has a jetpack doesn't mean you should just get one. There are already enough battalions that have jetpacks, adding to that list will only make the existing jetpack users less unique.

If 41st wants something to make the battalion stand out, they should look for things that other battalions don't already have.

We have. I have asked for things no other battalion has and wouldn't disrupt things and it got +1s but devs said that they weren't going to add it to them. I tried having only 1 single Improcco member get a jetpack, that got -1. We have requested several different things over the years to make them stand out and they haven't got anything. I'm tired of Improcco getting shafted.

[Tetra 141]

1 minute ago, Finn said:

-1

Just because the model has a jetpack doesn't mean you should just get one. There are already enough battalions that have jetpacks, adding to that list will only make the existing jetpack users less unique.

If 41st wants something to make the battalion stand out, they should look for things that other battalions don't already have.

We have. I have asked for things no other battalion has and wouldn't disrupt things and it got +1s but devs said that they weren't going to add it to them. I tried having only 1 single Improcco member get a jetpack, that got -1. We have requested several different things over the years to make them stand out and they haven't got anything. I'm tired of Improcco getting shafted.

[Conrad]

I think this would be a good post to hear from the development team on their position on all this! I know the dev team has changed a lot recently so @Jayarr!

[Conrad 2,465]

I think this would be a good post to hear from the development team on their position on all this! I know the dev team has changed a lot recently so @Jayarr!

[Finn]

14 minutes ago, BROPDROP said:

Reality of the matter is Jetpacks aren’t unique they never will be 

Yea that's my point. It's not unique to add jetpacks, and it only hurts other battalions who already have it.

[Finn 730]

14 minutes ago, BROPDROP said:

Reality of the matter is Jetpacks aren’t unique they never will be 

Yea that's my point. It's not unique to add jetpacks, and it only hurts other battalions who already have it.

[BROPDROP]

5 minutes ago, Finn said:

Yea that's my point. It's not unique to add jetpacks, and it only hurts other battalions who already have it.

It hurts absolutely nothing if anything it hurts 41st by not having a single chance to be a jetpack trooper meaning if someone wants a jetpack they can’t be in 41st which in turn if someone sees all the other battalions with jetpacks they will focus going towards them instead of trying out 41st. Also when I tried to get unique Kits that wouldn’t hurt any other battalions at all you shit on that suggestion so you don’t want uniqueness you just don’t want it because it’d make 41st more fun

[BROPDROP 395]

5 minutes ago, Finn said:

Yea that's my point. It's not unique to add jetpacks, and it only hurts other battalions who already have it.

It hurts absolutely nothing if anything it hurts 41st by not having a single chance to be a jetpack trooper meaning if someone wants a jetpack they can’t be in 41st which in turn if someone sees all the other battalions with jetpacks they will focus going towards them instead of trying out 41st. Also when I tried to get unique Kits that wouldn’t hurt any other battalions at all you shit on that suggestion so you don’t want uniqueness you just don’t want it because it’d make 41st more fun

[Hector]

6 minutes ago, BROPDROP said:

It hurts absolutely nothing if anything it hurts 41st

Agreed +1

[Hector 83]

6 minutes ago, BROPDROP said:

It hurts absolutely nothing if anything it hurts 41st

Agreed +1

[Jayarr]

Jetpack bloat in not prefered.
From a development standpoint, it's just more entities to add on to the pile. We're never a fan of that
From a player standpoint, I can see why others are concerned about this.

I recommend picking one or two jobs to give jetpacks, not your whole subunit.
Additionally, maybe take a few days to brain storm something new as a whole you might be able to do for yourselves. A job, a weapon, a niche. Standardization no longer exists, we don't need to play in the confines of it any longer

[Jayarr 1,037]

Jetpack bloat in not prefered.
From a development standpoint, it's just more entities to add on to the pile. We're never a fan of that
From a player standpoint, I can see why others are concerned about this.

I recommend picking one or two jobs to give jetpacks, not your whole subunit.
Additionally, maybe take a few days to brain storm something new as a whole you might be able to do for yourselves. A job, a weapon, a niche. Standardization no longer exists, we don't need to play in the confines of it any longer

[BROPDROP]

4 minutes ago, Jayarr said:

Jetpack bloat in not prefered.
From a development standpoint, it's just more entities to add on to the pile. We're never a fan of that
From a player standpoint, I can see why others are concerned about this.

I recommend picking one or two jobs to give jetpacks, not your whole subunit.
Additionally, maybe take a few days to brain storm something new as a whole you might be able to do for yourselves. A job, a weapon, a niche. Standardization no longer exists, we don't need to play in the confines of it any longer

I have a question is the development team ever going to get to a point to where they actually give solidified reason for denial or is it always just gonna be a message with some of the reasons it may be? Because I was always curious why the other suggestion was denied for Improcco a while back

[BROPDROP 395]

4 minutes ago, Jayarr said:

Jetpack bloat in not prefered.
From a development standpoint, it's just more entities to add on to the pile. We're never a fan of that
From a player standpoint, I can see why others are concerned about this.

I recommend picking one or two jobs to give jetpacks, not your whole subunit.
Additionally, maybe take a few days to brain storm something new as a whole you might be able to do for yourselves. A job, a weapon, a niche. Standardization no longer exists, we don't need to play in the confines of it any longer

I have a question is the development team ever going to get to a point to where they actually give solidified reason for denial or is it always just gonna be a message with some of the reasons it may be? Because I was always curious why the other suggestion was denied for Improcco a while back

[Tetra]

15 minutes ago, Jayarr said:

Jetpack bloat in not prefered.
From a development standpoint, it's just more entities to add on to the pile. We're never a fan of that
From a player standpoint, I can see why others are concerned about this.

I recommend picking one or two jobs to give jetpacks, not your whole subunit.
Additionally, maybe take a few days to brain storm something new as a whole you might be able to do for yourselves. A job, a weapon, a niche. Standardization no longer exists, we don't need to play in the confines of it any longer

We did pick one job to get it, on a suggestion you previously wrote the denial on.

[Tetra 141]

15 minutes ago, Jayarr said:

Jetpack bloat in not prefered.
From a development standpoint, it's just more entities to add on to the pile. We're never a fan of that
From a player standpoint, I can see why others are concerned about this.

I recommend picking one or two jobs to give jetpacks, not your whole subunit.
Additionally, maybe take a few days to brain storm something new as a whole you might be able to do for yourselves. A job, a weapon, a niche. Standardization no longer exists, we don't need to play in the confines of it any longer

We did pick one job to get it, on a suggestion you previously wrote the denial on.

[Jayarr]

11 minutes ago, BROPDROP said:

I have a question is the development team ever going to get to a point to where they actually give solidified reason for denial or is it always just gonna be a message with some of the reasons it may be? Because I was always curious why the other suggestion was denied for Improcco a while back

It has already been discussed as the standard going forward, yes.

 

2 minutes ago, Tetra said:

We did pick one job to get it, on a suggestion you previously wrote the denial on.

Good thing you can post it again. Nothing is a permanent denial :)

[Jayarr 1,037]

11 minutes ago, BROPDROP said:

I have a question is the development team ever going to get to a point to where they actually give solidified reason for denial or is it always just gonna be a message with some of the reasons it may be? Because I was always curious why the other suggestion was denied for Improcco a while back

It has already been discussed as the standard going forward, yes.

 

2 minutes ago, Tetra said:

We did pick one job to get it, on a suggestion you previously wrote the denial on.

Good thing you can post it again. Nothing is a permanent denial :)

[justuscloud5]

From what I've heard about what shake ups have happened with 41st jobs, and especially after the loss of 21st and there Jt regiments. Something like this would be a very good balance to the battalion and regiment as a whole. +1

[justuscloud5 518]

From what I've heard about what shake ups have happened with 41st jobs, and especially after the loss of 21st and there Jt regiments. Something like this would be a very good balance to the battalion and regiment as a whole. +1

[Viceroy]

2 hours ago, Conrad said:

-1

This takes away too much from other sub units on the server. Instead I would prefer to see something unique be added (Perhaps even developed by our development team!) then just taking something from another sub unit and putting it into yours. Things should become more unique, not just copies of each other.

This seems like a strange point to make when "takes away too much" equates to roughly six percent or less of the server pop. (assuming there are 80 people on and all five Improcco are present) Improcco is five members.

[Viceroy 1]

2 hours ago, Conrad said:

-1

This takes away too much from other sub units on the server. Instead I would prefer to see something unique be added (Perhaps even developed by our development team!) then just taking something from another sub unit and putting it into yours. Things should become more unique, not just copies of each other.

This seems like a strange point to make when "takes away too much" equates to roughly six percent or less of the server pop. (assuming there are 80 people on and all five Improcco are present) Improcco is five members.

[KaiserNeiner]

-1 would rather see Improcco get the new cloaks than jet packs. 

[KaiserNeiner 0]

-1 would rather see Improcco get the new cloaks than jet packs. 

[Funnyman]

Imma -1 as much as improcco needs love yall could cook up some heat and break some ground

[Funnyman 203]

Imma -1 as much as improcco needs love yall could cook up some heat and break some ground

[Badger98]

+1 i tried this back when i was Gett Cross fingers for it

[Badger98 64]

+1 i tried this back when i was Gett Cross fingers for it

[Kaner]

+1 based

[Kaner 61]

+1 based

[Soccer]

+1 why not

[Soccer 48]

+1 why not

[Juggernaut]

21 hours ago, Finn said:

-1

Just because the model has a jetpack doesn't mean you should just get one. There are already enough battalions that have jetpacks, adding to that list will only make the existing jetpack users less unique.

If 41st wants something to make the battalion stand out, they should look for things that other battalions don't already have.

I did that with Mortars for Dire squad and I have still yet to hear about them at least with Jetpacks its already in the game and makes the dev teams job easier .


so Im +1 for improcco

 

 

Edited December 24, 2024 by Juggernaut

[Juggernaut 121]

21 hours ago, Finn said:

-1

Just because the model has a jetpack doesn't mean you should just get one. There are already enough battalions that have jetpacks, adding to that list will only make the existing jetpack users less unique.

If 41st wants something to make the battalion stand out, they should look for things that other battalions don't already have.

I did that with Mortars for Dire squad and I have still yet to hear about them at least with Jetpacks its already in the game and makes the dev teams job easier .


so Im +1 for improcco

 

 

Edited December 24, 2024 by Juggernaut

[Ajax-Evo]

Huge +1 improcco desvere it 

[Ajax-Evo 98]

Huge +1 improcco desvere it 

[Banagite]

-1, at most pick a few jobs. Not the whole sub unit

[Banagite 140]

-1, at most pick a few jobs. Not the whole sub unit

[Zeros]

-1. I've seen this suggestion over and over again even while in Improcco.

Improcco needs something to fit their unique niche of being in 41st and Jetpacks isn't going to fill that. It's just an easy copout in order to try to boost their kit in an uncreative way in my mind.

Standardization is gone and some of the other suggestions 41st has put up have been really really cool/unique that could be applied to Improcco.

[Zeros 315]

-1. I've seen this suggestion over and over again even while in Improcco.

Improcco needs something to fit their unique niche of being in 41st and Jetpacks isn't going to fill that. It's just an easy copout in order to try to boost their kit in an uncreative way in my mind.

Standardization is gone and some of the other suggestions 41st has put up have been really really cool/unique that could be applied to Improcco.

[Tetra]

1 hour ago, Zeros said:

-1. I've seen this suggestion over and over again even while in Improcco.

Improcco needs something to fit their unique niche of being in 41st and Jetpacks isn't going to fill that. It's just an easy copout in order to try to boost their kit in an uncreative way in my mind.

Standardization is gone and some of the other suggestions 41st has put up have been really really cool/unique that could be applied to Improcco.

The problem with the other suggestions is that they are for things that aren't on the server yet and may never be on the server.

[Tetra 141]

1 hour ago, Zeros said:

-1. I've seen this suggestion over and over again even while in Improcco.

Improcco needs something to fit their unique niche of being in 41st and Jetpacks isn't going to fill that. It's just an easy copout in order to try to boost their kit in an uncreative way in my mind.

Standardization is gone and some of the other suggestions 41st has put up have been really really cool/unique that could be applied to Improcco.

The problem with the other suggestions is that they are for things that aren't on the server yet and may never be on the server.

[BROPDROP]

1 hour ago, Banagite said:

-1, at most pick a few jobs. Not the whole sub unit

It is 5 people

[BROPDROP 395]

1 hour ago, Banagite said:

-1, at most pick a few jobs. Not the whole sub unit

It is 5 people

[WarMaster]

-1 ive seen some really good ideas from 41st recently i dont think you guys need jetpacks i think you guys are creative and all the other stuff you asked for is much better and personally i would rather have a cool sonar dart or zipline that jetpacks that everyone is getting it seems.

[WarMaster 195]

-1 ive seen some really good ideas from 41st recently i dont think you guys need jetpacks i think you guys are creative and all the other stuff you asked for is much better and personally i would rather have a cool sonar dart or zipline that jetpacks that everyone is getting it seems.

[BobbyBiceps]

I +1 this improcco needs it

[BobbyBiceps 118]

I +1 this improcco needs it

[BobbyBiceps]

The only reason is that you guys are preventing people from getting what they want, and I believe we should all be in the Christmas spirit and approve this request. Please.

[BobbyBiceps 118]

The only reason is that you guys are preventing people from getting what they want, and I believe we should all be in the Christmas spirit and approve this request. Please.

[Tec]

-1 dislike this concept, Improcco should have something else than just jetpacks. Band-aid solution imo

[Tec 118]

-1 dislike this concept, Improcco should have something else than just jetpacks. Band-aid solution imo

[KillJoy]

+1, either allow them to have jet packs or grapple hooks. No reason a recon unit to not be able to reach the high ground

[KillJoy 566]

+1, either allow them to have jet packs or grapple hooks. No reason a recon unit to not be able to reach the high ground

[Eclipse]

-1

On 12/23/2024 at 4:53 PM, Tetra said:

Improcco Company essentially have no reason to exist except as a recolor of our other regiments.

What about the lore character aspect and the elite squad aspect?
Isn't that the reason to exist? Why is it that a unit like Ghost Company can do well in 212th when they're basically the same as you guys? Why do you need jetpacks and they don't?
I think if you're saying that you have no reason to exist except as a recolor of your other regiments then you probably should fix that. Idk how jetpacks would do anything except make you a recolor of your other regiments plus jetpacks. At that point just give them to green company and remove improcco

[Eclipse 820]

-1

On 12/23/2024 at 4:53 PM, Tetra said:

Improcco Company essentially have no reason to exist except as a recolor of our other regiments.

What about the lore character aspect and the elite squad aspect?
Isn't that the reason to exist? Why is it that a unit like Ghost Company can do well in 212th when they're basically the same as you guys? Why do you need jetpacks and they don't?
I think if you're saying that you have no reason to exist except as a recolor of your other regiments then you probably should fix that. Idk how jetpacks would do anything except make you a recolor of your other regiments plus jetpacks. At that point just give them to green company and remove improcco

[BROPDROP]

8 hours ago, Eclipse said:

-1

What about the lore character aspect and the elite squad aspect?
Isn't that the reason to exist? Why is it that a unit like Ghost Company can do well in 212th when they're basically the same as you guys? Why do you need jetpacks and they don't?
I think if you're saying that you have no reason to exist except as a recolor of your other regiments then you probably should fix that. Idk how jetpacks would do anything except make you a recolor of your other regiments plus jetpacks. At that point just give them to green company and remove improcco

 Nobody is saying that Improcco is not or cannot do well. It is the fact that they have nothing going for them to even consider them elite even though they should. It is the fact that all Improcco members have wanted since I joined the server is jetpacks, yet everytime it is brought up people say this hurts other battalions, How exactly? 41st is literally the only battalion that does not have an option for a jetpack trooper besides CG (which makes sense) not including 241st of course but they are new and have their fancy little gadgets, so how exactly is that fair? And like I said before every other suggestion for Improcco to not be like every other regiment has been neglected for absolutely no reason

[BROPDROP 395]

8 hours ago, Eclipse said:

-1

What about the lore character aspect and the elite squad aspect?
Isn't that the reason to exist? Why is it that a unit like Ghost Company can do well in 212th when they're basically the same as you guys? Why do you need jetpacks and they don't?
I think if you're saying that you have no reason to exist except as a recolor of your other regiments then you probably should fix that. Idk how jetpacks would do anything except make you a recolor of your other regiments plus jetpacks. At that point just give them to green company and remove improcco

 Nobody is saying that Improcco is not or cannot do well. It is the fact that they have nothing going for them to even consider them elite even though they should. It is the fact that all Improcco members have wanted since I joined the server is jetpacks, yet everytime it is brought up people say this hurts other battalions, How exactly? 41st is literally the only battalion that does not have an option for a jetpack trooper besides CG (which makes sense) not including 241st of course but they are new and have their fancy little gadgets, so how exactly is that fair? And like I said before every other suggestion for Improcco to not be like every other regiment has been neglected for absolutely no reason

[Eclipse]

1 hour ago, BROPDROP said:

they have nothing going for them to even consider them elite even though they should

I mean... you guys have custom jobs, models, and lore characters. Isn't that something going for you? Torrent Company have lore character jobs with standard kits and you don't see them going on the forums asking for jetpacks so that they can be more elite. Ghost Company have even less than that and they don't do it either. What makes it so that you guys aren't considered elite with your lore characters and models while other units in your position have no problem being considered elite?

When you guys say they have nothing going for them and have no reason to exist, I think that points to a larger issue. Giving you guys jetpacks wouldn't make it more elite, it would just make you guys the same but with jet packs. If anything, it would attract more people who don't care about Improcco and just want a jetpack. Wouldn't you rather have members joining who love the characters or want to work in an elite squad rather than somebody who wants a better kit with a jetpack and a cool model?

If 41st wants a jet trooper so bad, suggest a jet trooper job. The model probably already exists @Jayarr 
Ez fix

[Eclipse 820]

1 hour ago, BROPDROP said:

they have nothing going for them to even consider them elite even though they should

I mean... you guys have custom jobs, models, and lore characters. Isn't that something going for you? Torrent Company have lore character jobs with standard kits and you don't see them going on the forums asking for jetpacks so that they can be more elite. Ghost Company have even less than that and they don't do it either. What makes it so that you guys aren't considered elite with your lore characters and models while other units in your position have no problem being considered elite?

When you guys say they have nothing going for them and have no reason to exist, I think that points to a larger issue. Giving you guys jetpacks wouldn't make it more elite, it would just make you guys the same but with jet packs. If anything, it would attract more people who don't care about Improcco and just want a jetpack. Wouldn't you rather have members joining who love the characters or want to work in an elite squad rather than somebody who wants a better kit with a jetpack and a cool model?

If 41st wants a jet trooper so bad, suggest a jet trooper job. The model probably already exists @Jayarr 
Ez fix

[justuscloud5]

On 1/3/2025 at 2:13 AM, Eclipse said:

I mean... you guys have custom jobs, models, and lore characters. Isn't that something going for you? Torrent Company have lore character jobs with standard kits and you don't see them going on the forums asking for jetpacks so that they can be more elite. Ghost Company have even less than that and they don't do it either. What makes it so that you guys aren't considered elite with your lore characters and models while other units in your position have no problem being considered elite?

When you guys say they have nothing going for them and have no reason to exist, I think that points to a larger issue. Giving you guys jetpacks wouldn't make it more elite, it would just make you guys the same but with jet packs. If anything, it would attract more people who don't care about Improcco and just want a jetpack. Wouldn't you rather have members joining who love the characters or want to work in an elite squad rather than somebody who wants a better kit with a jetpack and a cool model?

If 41st wants a jet trooper so bad, suggest a jet trooper job. The model probably already exists @Jayarr 
Ez fix

You are partially correct on this. 41st and Im pretty sure from waht Ive heard is every battalion lost JT jobs for a bit. Improccos addition was to be elite and that was entailed with their very unique models and the name only jobs. The eliteness was also connected to some agreements I had made back in the day that I dont think stand anymore but still the eliteness should be carried through RP.  There is nothing wrong with the kits as they stand on a base level, as the kits (besides Getts new ARC Kit) were the ones they've had since I made the improcco suggestion.  I understand what they want and I understand where you are coming from. Jetpacks only somewhat make sense for them now as well no JT job and removal of KU, so there is an argument for balancing reasons. But I think a lot of people have said this Improcco should get something but maybe the jetpacks aren't it. Improcco was made to be elite even with their normal kits as they themselves were supposed to be the RP heavy and QRF part of 41st. What I think is most important though is reintegrating that standard into Improcco to prove they are elite @BROPDROP. Improcco never had the best kits but they had dope models and a good standard cut out for them.

 

 

TLDR: Improcco was made to be an elite sub unit no matter the kit, standards may have slipped and need to be brought back up. The subunit was able to find a very good niche and that niche needs to be reestablished top down. This does not mean Improcco doesnt need anything in a kit update but what it needs more than anything is it be brought back to its standard. Not just black and teel 41st.

[justuscloud5 518]

On 1/3/2025 at 2:13 AM, Eclipse said:

I mean... you guys have custom jobs, models, and lore characters. Isn't that something going for you? Torrent Company have lore character jobs with standard kits and you don't see them going on the forums asking for jetpacks so that they can be more elite. Ghost Company have even less than that and they don't do it either. What makes it so that you guys aren't considered elite with your lore characters and models while other units in your position have no problem being considered elite?

When you guys say they have nothing going for them and have no reason to exist, I think that points to a larger issue. Giving you guys jetpacks wouldn't make it more elite, it would just make you guys the same but with jet packs. If anything, it would attract more people who don't care about Improcco and just want a jetpack. Wouldn't you rather have members joining who love the characters or want to work in an elite squad rather than somebody who wants a better kit with a jetpack and a cool model?

If 41st wants a jet trooper so bad, suggest a jet trooper job. The model probably already exists @Jayarr 
Ez fix

You are partially correct on this. 41st and Im pretty sure from waht Ive heard is every battalion lost JT jobs for a bit. Improccos addition was to be elite and that was entailed with their very unique models and the name only jobs. The eliteness was also connected to some agreements I had made back in the day that I dont think stand anymore but still the eliteness should be carried through RP.  There is nothing wrong with the kits as they stand on a base level, as the kits (besides Getts new ARC Kit) were the ones they've had since I made the improcco suggestion.  I understand what they want and I understand where you are coming from. Jetpacks only somewhat make sense for them now as well no JT job and removal of KU, so there is an argument for balancing reasons. But I think a lot of people have said this Improcco should get something but maybe the jetpacks aren't it. Improcco was made to be elite even with their normal kits as they themselves were supposed to be the RP heavy and QRF part of 41st. What I think is most important though is reintegrating that standard into Improcco to prove they are elite @BROPDROP. Improcco never had the best kits but they had dope models and a good standard cut out for them.

 

 

TLDR: Improcco was made to be an elite sub unit no matter the kit, standards may have slipped and need to be brought back up. The subunit was able to find a very good niche and that niche needs to be reestablished top down. This does not mean Improcco doesnt need anything in a kit update but what it needs more than anything is it be brought back to its standard. Not just black and teel 41st.

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