Gears Posted November 24, 2023 Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 (edited) So, Ive been seeing a couple things that has been concerning to me that I feel there needs to be a discussion on. As of recent there has been a growing lack of transparancy on decisions made by Community Leadership regarding well known Community Members and additionally the lack of communication on progress towards the next update, (Yes theres an update coming, But the months leading up to this has been rather silent). To start with, Within the last year there has been a considerable amount of Community Bans done silently with no explanation and only a handfull of people really knowing the full reason as to why they were done. Some of these people that were banned include but not limited to... A Former Senior Dev/Map Creator, A Multi Positioned Member of the Community that achieved MoH and also several vocal members of this community. My question to community leadership. Is why does the community not get a chance to read the reasons of why these people were Community Banned. People can easily speculate and come to their own conclusions which could get out of hand. But if they knew the reasons, They would be able to judge and discuss if these bans were warranted or not. I ofcourse get there are particular people who have done illegal activity and in no way should that be disclosed entirely due to obvious reasons. However when it comes to ingame actions or actions on forums, these can be disclosed for the community so that the they may decide if Community Leadership has made a fair decision. If Community Leadership remain silent and say nothing additionally, it opens a speculation that these bans may not be as suitable as one would think. A Community Banned person cannot defend themself to the community and we are forced to just accept that whatever ban is done is just and appropriate, there is even a possibility we will never know the reason to a ban, due to community leadership denying any chance to appeal. Reasons for Community bans have been done before, 2 actually. Logic was rebanned and the explanation for that is still there. Dinaric was notably community banned, but since his ban is now lifted, that reason is now hidden from the community as we have moved on. I see no reason for bans that are of a similar nature that the same can be done. So is Community Leadership going to be more transparent on these bans or will we need to speculate and hope they will allow these people to appeal in the future. Moving towards the second point I wanted to focus on. Dev QnAs and Communication about updates. Roughly towards the end of last year and into early this year. We were able to see what progress was being done and also ask questions on upcoming changes, These all of a sudden stopped around the time the last update rolled out. For me I found these really interesting and engaging towards the community, We also had a Community Polls on proposed changes, One of those led to the re-addition to null, which for most it was a welcome return to the server. From the point of last update to now with the upcoming update, We really didnt see any of this happen again. I feel this was a missed chance from Community Leadership as for me it was a big motivator to keep focused on the server and small tidbits showed really good transparency. My question towards community leadership, With the upcoming update, will we see a return of these monthly (or even once every 2 months if thats better) Dev QnAs and will we get more polls for the community to get a chance to steer parts of the update into the popular direction. Cause for me, The wait between updates really hurt my desire to play on the server and just pushed me more into burnout. Lastly, I just want to say Im not writing this to cause Drama or to be overly negative. I just personally feel that previously transparency from community leadership was far better. When the "New" 4 Founders stepped into the vacated roles and reigns were handed over. We saw more communication, a positive enviroment and were open to talking about these issues. Recently I feel its slipped back into the fog, Im just hoping it could become clearer. Edited November 24, 2023 by Gears 1 1 Report Currently trying to not be a forum gremlin Former Chancellor Palpatine | Former Yoda & Mace Windu | Former Shaak Ti & Anakin | Former Delta Squad Scorch | Former Mas Amedda | Former Director | Former Management Link to comment
Cox Posted November 24, 2023 Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 (edited) Yeah enjoy the ban buddy you’re gone Edited November 24, 2023 by Cox 6 1 1 Report Certified Giga Chad Link to comment
Hanz Posted November 24, 2023 Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 Free Sixta Free Aaron 1 2 2 Report Link to comment
Edgar Posted November 24, 2023 Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 I hate retired people. 2 1 2 Report Future Adult! Link to comment
Bleach Posted November 24, 2023 Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 Good to see you too! 2 Report I am Best Canadian on the Server The Smoke Will Never Clear... Link to comment
Mystic Posted November 24, 2023 Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 (edited) If you're curious about bans generally approaching a Director+ solves this. How Jad explained it is that if that person is interested in coming back they can reach out to director+ for permissions to post appeals. Community bans are known by all VA+ and anyone who really just asks. Its not really knowledge everyone NEEDS. Jayarr was beamed for threatening the sovereignty of assets synergy deems their own. We all know about Dragon. Sixtas was just general repeated toxicity after multiple warnings iirc. I got this from just asking. As for the development clarity. I agree. For the most part inferring is easy, as just asking around will lead to knowing Bananakin is making our new map. You can find those streams easily. As for updates you can see the implementation phase on the forums. I do though, miss the poll we had for SO and Null It really showed the community had a say in that kind of change. The Dev QnAs were so fun and really kept the hype which we lacked this time around. Glad this isn't another step up or step down post, and glad you mentioned it as I've heard similar complaints from others. Edited November 24, 2023 by Mystic 1 Report Longest Special Operations Member on the server. Current: Grand Master of the Order Yoda Former: Cin Drallig l First Yayax Squad Yover l Foxtrot Commando l 2nd GM BCMD Bacara l Serra Keto l Final SO Commander Jet l First & Last Devil Dogs Deadeye l Veteran Admin l Jedi General Plo Koon l 2nd Returning SO CMD Jet l Luminara Unduli l Wolfpack MAJ Boost l Kit Fisto l Trauma's Unit MED Mystic l Jedi Military Advisor l Omega 36 PVT Darman l High General Shaak Ti l Jedi Chief Instructor l Alpha 98 Nate l Actually Private Crosshair l Mace Windu Link to comment
Marvel Posted November 24, 2023 Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 27 minutes ago, Mystic said: If you're curious about bans generally approaching a Director+ solves this. This. Gears you are well aware of this from your time as Director and Management. I've had plenty of people come to me regarding community bans. https://synergyroleplay.com/forums/topic/26408-global-community-ban-information/#comment-273124 As well as this post going over everything regarding Community Bans and quite literally answering all of your concerns regarding them in your post. If anyone ever has any concerns, questions, or comments, feel free to reach out to a Director! 1 Report Link to comment
Bleach Posted November 24, 2023 Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 (edited) Edited November 24, 2023 by Bleach 1 2 Report I am Best Canadian on the Server The Smoke Will Never Clear... Link to comment
Mystic Posted November 24, 2023 Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bleach said: how long did this take to make on imgflip.com babe Longest Special Operations Member on the server. Current: Grand Master of the Order Yoda Former: Cin Drallig l First Yayax Squad Yover l Foxtrot Commando l 2nd GM BCMD Bacara l Serra Keto l Final SO Commander Jet l First & Last Devil Dogs Deadeye l Veteran Admin l Jedi General Plo Koon l 2nd Returning SO CMD Jet l Luminara Unduli l Wolfpack MAJ Boost l Kit Fisto l Trauma's Unit MED Mystic l Jedi Military Advisor l Omega 36 PVT Darman l High General Shaak Ti l Jedi Chief Instructor l Alpha 98 Nate l Actually Private Crosshair l Mace Windu Link to comment
Gears Posted November 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Marvel said: This. Gears you are well aware of this from your time as Director and Management. I've had plenty of people come to me regarding community bans. https://synergyroleplay.com/forums/topic/26408-global-community-ban-information/#comment-273124 As well as this post going over everything regarding Community Bans and quite literally answering all of your concerns regarding them in your post. If anyone ever has any concerns, questions, or comments, feel free to reach out to a Director! Yes, Im fully aware that for particular bans you may be open to giving the infomation. To focus more on what I was proposing, was that Community Bans (Apart from illegal actvity) should have a write up on the forums, similar to the one Logic has and funnily the post was now hidden and the list was updated within an hour of me pointing it out. I guess that was just forgot that it up and didnt remove it till now. Community Bans are the capital punishment of Synergy and I was more envisioning the idea that when someone is Community Banned, There would be a addition to the community ban infomation explaining what reasons and any examples/evidence that can be provided. That way if people feel passionately about this ban and dont feel its warranted, it opens up the chance for people to discuss it on the forums and judge if this ban a Community Ban Worthy. By doing it privately 1 on 1 and infomation going towards people that are initially curious, it closes away a discussion that may bring more people in to weigh their opinions with others. (On second thought I just realised why that post was hidden...) Edited November 24, 2023 by Gears Currently trying to not be a forum gremlin Former Chancellor Palpatine | Former Yoda & Mace Windu | Former Shaak Ti & Anakin | Former Delta Squad Scorch | Former Mas Amedda | Former Director | Former Management Link to comment
Bleach Posted November 24, 2023 Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Mystic said: how long did this take to make on imgflip.com babe 10 seconds pookie 1 Report I am Best Canadian on the Server The Smoke Will Never Clear... Link to comment
Fyi Posted November 24, 2023 Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 the bans are to cover up the money laundering 1 1 3 2 Report hi. Link to comment
ToasterBath Posted November 24, 2023 Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Fyi said: the bans are to cover up the money laundering Edited November 24, 2023 by ToasterBath 2 Report bardan jusik Future Dev. Assistant Link to comment
Mystic Posted November 24, 2023 Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, ToasterBath said: 1 Report Longest Special Operations Member on the server. Current: Grand Master of the Order Yoda Former: Cin Drallig l First Yayax Squad Yover l Foxtrot Commando l 2nd GM BCMD Bacara l Serra Keto l Final SO Commander Jet l First & Last Devil Dogs Deadeye l Veteran Admin l Jedi General Plo Koon l 2nd Returning SO CMD Jet l Luminara Unduli l Wolfpack MAJ Boost l Kit Fisto l Trauma's Unit MED Mystic l Jedi Military Advisor l Omega 36 PVT Darman l High General Shaak Ti l Jedi Chief Instructor l Alpha 98 Nate l Actually Private Crosshair l Mace Windu Link to comment
KaiserNeiner Posted November 25, 2023 Head Admin Report Share Posted November 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Gears said: Moving towards the second point I wanted to focus on. Dev QnAs and Communication about updates. Roughly towards the end of last year and into early this year. We were able to see what progress was being done and also ask questions on upcoming changes, These all of a sudden stopped around the time the last update rolled out. For me I found these really interesting and engaging towards the community, We also had a Community Polls on proposed changes, One of those led to the re-addition to null, which for most it was a welcome return to the server. From the point of last update to now with the upcoming update, We really didnt see any of this happen again. I feel this was a missed chance from Community Leadership as for me it was a big motivator to keep focused on the server and small tidbits showed really good transparency. My question towards community leadership, With the upcoming update, will we see a return of these monthly (or even once every 2 months if thats better) Dev QnAs and will we get more polls for the community to get a chance to steer parts of the update into the popular direction. Cause for me, The wait between updates really hurt my desire to play on the server and just pushed me more into burnout. So for this, I consider the Dev QnA's a way for the community to feel more involved with devs and founders, which is absolutely amazing. While the QnA's have not been prominent, a lot of the dev team has been very active and involved in day to day interactions with the community. We constantly see Baron, Xaze, and even Wosy on the server or in TS, making themselves known and available. I see this as a much better alternative than QnA's. Kaiser Zeros Clutch Link to comment
Brooklyn Posted November 25, 2023 Report Share Posted November 25, 2023 8 hours ago, Gears said: These all of a sudden stopped around the time the last update rolled out. *coughs* 1 1 Report Kal Skirata Bacta Marvel Brooklyn I beat Jad in a spar first try. Link to comment
Mystic Posted November 25, 2023 Report Share Posted November 25, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Brooklyn said: *coughs* To be fair this says nothing. Its UI tweaks and shit we can barely understand. Clicking on it leads nowhere and half the time the statements of what was changed are cut off. All this really says is "yeah we're workin on stuffs" Edited November 25, 2023 by Mystic 2 1 Report Longest Special Operations Member on the server. Current: Grand Master of the Order Yoda Former: Cin Drallig l First Yayax Squad Yover l Foxtrot Commando l 2nd GM BCMD Bacara l Serra Keto l Final SO Commander Jet l First & Last Devil Dogs Deadeye l Veteran Admin l Jedi General Plo Koon l 2nd Returning SO CMD Jet l Luminara Unduli l Wolfpack MAJ Boost l Kit Fisto l Trauma's Unit MED Mystic l Jedi Military Advisor l Omega 36 PVT Darman l High General Shaak Ti l Jedi Chief Instructor l Alpha 98 Nate l Actually Private Crosshair l Mace Windu Link to comment
Brooklyn Posted November 25, 2023 Report Share Posted November 25, 2023 12 hours ago, Mystic said: To be fair this says nothing. Its UI tweaks and shit we can barely understand. Clicking on it leads nowhere and half the time the statements of what was changed are cut off. All this really says is "yeah we're workin on stuffs" To be fair this states 80% of things that will be included in the Update. The other 20% are things like map & models & surprises 1 Report Kal Skirata Bacta Marvel Brooklyn I beat Jad in a spar first try. Link to comment
Mystic Posted November 25, 2023 Report Share Posted November 25, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Brooklyn said: To be fair this states 80% of things that will be included in the Update. The other 20% are things like map & models & surprises what does this state? its all UI tweaks for BH menus. Literally all it is. Like 30 people actively play BH. Nobody knows what half this shit is Resolved Issue where hunter contracts and clan... Fixed Bug where Guild Management had to be in a.... Small bug fixes Several Bug fixes with the clan system Fixed a mispelling buyarmor typo fix Ah yes. 2 typo fixes. The other shit is 2 ambiguous bug fixes and 2 statements that are cut off, which clicking the hyperlink brings up an error webpage. Scrolling up its literally just statements like Debug and tested server side functions. Finished client-side UI for the ledger. Fixed locality issues with mcs Removed all of the old depreciated clans code Polish, Removed all debug code Fixed and Added functionality for hunter contra... Client-side code for restrictions to prevent AC Patched bug displaying multiple of the same cla... You get the point. These commits are not keeping the community in the loop, its letting people know that there is work being done, and that bug fixes are happening as well as small tweaks and server sided functions being adjusted that don't affect us at all. My point is this channel could disappear and we'd be all the none wiser simply because its not informative to your average player. Which is the point of this post. That github channel makes sense to a handful of people. Your average person isn't understanding 90% of the things in there aside from "Bug fix, fixed typo" Not dissing devs or anything, simply defending the point of this point as i know very well Xaze and the Dev team are working their assess off day and night to make these updates worthwhile and enjoyable. The post is about transparency to your average player, not that few of us who can understand whats going on via a github commits webhook, and those of us who talk to them fairly often. Edited November 25, 2023 by Mystic 1 Report Longest Special Operations Member on the server. Current: Grand Master of the Order Yoda Former: Cin Drallig l First Yayax Squad Yover l Foxtrot Commando l 2nd GM BCMD Bacara l Serra Keto l Final SO Commander Jet l First & Last Devil Dogs Deadeye l Veteran Admin l Jedi General Plo Koon l 2nd Returning SO CMD Jet l Luminara Unduli l Wolfpack MAJ Boost l Kit Fisto l Trauma's Unit MED Mystic l Jedi Military Advisor l Omega 36 PVT Darman l High General Shaak Ti l Jedi Chief Instructor l Alpha 98 Nate l Actually Private Crosshair l Mace Windu Link to comment
Piff Posted November 28, 2023 Report Share Posted November 28, 2023 I agree we should know ban reasons if requested. 1 1 Report “I’m not toxic, It’s just hard not to treat you like an idiot” ~ Logic Link to comment
Kortnul Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 On 11/24/2023 at 4:19 PM, Gears said: lack of transparancy this the TL:DR 4 Report Current: Dumbass Former: 501st ARFL LTC Boomer, 104th WP HVYL COL Sinker, Doom's Unit MEDL CPT Kortnul, 212th Ghost Company ARCL CPT Reed, Omega 15 CPT Fi x2, Omega 22 SGM Atin , Omega 09 CPT Niner , Veteran Admin x2, Alpha-74 SGT Stec Link to comment
Ccmonty Posted December 1, 2023 Report Share Posted December 1, 2023 did jayarr get banned for a 3rd time?! Link to comment
Thom Posted December 1, 2023 Report Share Posted December 1, 2023 On 11/25/2023 at 12:02 AM, Brooklyn said: *coughs* I wouldn't know I'm Perma Banned from the main discord 1 1 1 Report Link to comment
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