Bring back Mic Radius

[Mystic]

Name: Mystic

RP Rank: Jedi Overseer l Captain

Suggestion: Re-implement the ability to see nearby players when speaking/typing

Implementation: Requires development

Lore: Without this ability we leave uncloaking up to an honor system, which can't always be trusted. Without this it makes it difficult to enforce cloaking rules.

Workshop content if applicable: N/A

[Ccmonty]

HUGE +1

[Arizona]

+1 its too hard to metagame now i dont like it 

[Marvel]

-1 

If your issue is cloaking then I’d rather something be made to where people that can see cloaks can just actually see them rather than bringing this back which has led to a ton of meta gaming in the past not only with people that can’t see cloaks realizing that someone is cloaked near them and somehow using it to their advantage but with things like seeing who can hear you on the other side of walls, what someone’s name is without being able to see them and also using that to your advantage ie. Looking for an HVT during an event and searching the area but just using your mic radius to zone into their location. I was not fond of this when it was around.

Coming from someone that has been in positions that could see cloaked people for most of my time on Synergy and also being a staff member for most of my time as well I would much rather take a bullet in my RP position then have to deal with all the meta gaming incidents that would occur if this would return.

Not worth it.

Also to give a semi solution to the whole cloaking debate - The current suit zoom we have had an option that would highlight players and NPCs and would actually highlight people while cloaked. This has since been turned off for everyone but if there was a way to give it to RC and SO so they could properly utilize it I would be down for it. 

[Mystic]

2 minutes ago, Marvel said:

-1 

If your issue is cloaking then I’d rather something be made to where people that can see cloaks can just actually see them rather than bringing this back which has led to a ton of meta gaming in the past not only with people that can’t see cloaks realizing that someone is cloaked near them and somehow using it to their advantage but with things like seeing who can hear you on the other side of walls, what someone’s name is without being able to see them and also using that to your advantage ie. Looking for an HVT during an event and searching the area but just using your mic radius to zone into their location. I was not fond of this when it was around.

Coming from someone that has been in positions that could see cloaked people for most of my time on Synergy and also being a staff member for most of my time as well I would much rather take a bullet in my RP position then have to deal with all the meta gaming incidents that would occur if this would return.

Not worth it.

Also to give a semi solution to the whole cloaking debate - The current suit zoom we have had an option that would highlight players and NPCs and would actually highlight people while cloaked. This has since been turned off for everyone but if there was a way to give it to RC and SO so they could properly utilize it I would be down for it. 

i don't care how seeing cloaks comes back, its just tiring dealing with BHs who cloak into brig/BCC

this works

[Hanz]

2 hours ago, Mystic said:

i don't care how seeing cloaks comes back, its just tiring dealing with BHs who cloak into brig/BCC

this works

Please report them if you catch them. They will receive a swift blacklist from Guild Spy and potentially more

-1 I agree with what Marvel said. There is already so much meta-gaming towards people cloaking now I don't want to give an easier way to do that.

Edited March 30, 2023 by Hanz

[Dennis]

-1 I can’t believe I’m gonna say it but marvel has the right idea 

[Mystic]

6 hours ago, Marvel said:

-1 

If your issue is cloaking then I’d rather something be made to where people that can see cloaks can just actually see them rather than bringing this back which has led to a ton of meta gaming in the past not only with people that can’t see cloaks realizing that someone is cloaked near them and somehow using it to their advantage but with things like seeing who can hear you on the other side of walls, what someone’s name is without being able to see them and also using that to your advantage ie. Looking for an HVT during an event and searching the area but just using your mic radius to zone into their location. I was not fond of this when it was around.

Coming from someone that has been in positions that could see cloaked people for most of my time on Synergy and also being a staff member for most of my time as well I would much rather take a bullet in my RP position then have to deal with all the meta gaming incidents that would occur if this would return.

Not worth it.

Also to give a semi solution to the whole cloaking debate - The current suit zoom we have had an option that would highlight players and NPCs and would actually highlight people while cloaked. This has since been turned off for everyone but if there was a way to give it to RC and SO so they could properly utilize it I would be down for it. 

 

3 hours ago, Dennis said:

-1 I can’t believe I’m gonna say it but marvel has the right idea 

 

4 hours ago, Hanz said:

Please report them if you catch them. They will receive a swift blacklist from Guild Spy and potentially more

-1 I agree with what Marvel said. There is already so much meta-gaming towards people cloaking now I don't want to give an easier way to do that.

What would you three say is a good implementation to allow SO/SOBDE to see cloaks?

I have a few ideas, alsng with what Marvel mentioned but i think if we do push for something it may as well be unique. 

This was put up with other suggestions in mind, but i just fell back on what we used to have. I am definitely open to adjusting this accordingly as suggestions are also about feedback

[Buzz]

-1 This was more of a crutch when it was in the server imo. If you find someone not abiding by the rules you can always ask staff to find out who it is via the spectate command. That way they can be reported and dealt with accordingly.

[Marvel]

5 hours ago, Mystic said:

 

 

What would you three say is a good implementation to allow SO/SOBDE to see cloaks?

I have a few ideas, alsng with what Marvel mentioned but i think if we do push for something it may as well be unique. 

This was put up with other suggestions in mind, but i just fell back on what we used to have. I am definitely open to adjusting this accordingly as suggestions are also about feedback

My only idea is what I said in my previous post. Not sure how it would be implemented or if it’s possible but idk any other way it would work either. Only issue with the binocular highlight is that there is essentially no range on it so they could spot a cloaked person from a lot farther. Better than an honor system imo but I can see people not enjoying that change.

[Comics]

-1, the cloaking thing makes this impossible, although a chat range would be useful because I hate mystery dms but Don't know fi that's possible

[Spaghetti]

-1 way too easily abused

[Black]

13 hours ago, Marvel said:

-1 

If your issue is cloaking then I’d rather something be made to where people that can see cloaks can just actually see them rather than bringing this back which has led to a ton of meta gaming in the past not only with people that can’t see cloaks realizing that someone is cloaked near them and somehow using it to their advantage but with things like seeing who can hear you on the other side of walls, what someone’s name is without being able to see them and also using that to your advantage ie. Looking for an HVT during an event and searching the area but just using your mic radius to zone into their location. I was not fond of this when it was around.

Coming from someone that has been in positions that could see cloaked people for most of my time on Synergy and also being a staff member for most of my time as well I would much rather take a bullet in my RP position then have to deal with all the meta gaming incidents that would occur if this would return.

Not worth it.

Also to give a semi solution to the whole cloaking debate - The current suit zoom we have had an option that would highlight players and NPCs and would actually highlight people while cloaked. This has since been turned off for everyone but if there was a way to give it to RC and SO so they could properly utilize it I would be down for it. 

thermic vision suggestion?

[Bacta]

3 hours ago, Comics said:

-1, the cloaking thing makes this impossible, although a chat range would be useful because I hate mystery dms but Don't know fi that's possible

i hate to say this but i agree with comics!

[Dennis]

16 hours ago, Mystic said:

 

 

What would you three say is a good implementation to allow SO/SOBDE to see cloaks?

I have a few ideas, alsng with what Marvel mentioned but i think if we do push for something it may as well be unique. 

This was put up with other suggestions in mind, but i just fell back on what we used to have. I am definitely open to adjusting this accordingly as suggestions are also about feedback

I’d say it should be something that you have to be actively using it or looking for cloaked people. Not just passive anti cloak projected from your armor. 

[Wosy]

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