Chambers Posted August 8, 2018 Report Share Posted August 8, 2018 Name: Chambers Suggestion: Remove all flame throwes, seriously they just make everyone lives miserable. Implementation: Just remove them, refund the people that bought them Lore: Saving my eyes and my life from the cancer of flamethrowers. Workshop content if applicable: N/A (If no workshop content, suggest a developer or put "Require Development") If you are asking to add or change a job, fill out the following Add or Change: REMOVE Weapons: Flamethrower, Death Watch Flamer Thrower. It's cool we had them but honestly, it only ruins the experience for everyone except the people that own them. From the GM side, it makes it hard for event jobs to do anything when they can't see. From the players, they can't see anything it's extremely experience breaking, constantly a victim of friendly fire. We had it, it was fun but now its time for it to go. 3 1 Report Link to comment
Vaal Posted August 8, 2018 Report Share Posted August 8, 2018 I strongly agree. This, to me, seems like a necessary action. Flamethrowers at the very minimum need to be reworked (i.e. removing the burning aspect, lowering the sound, or preventing the visual coordination loss) as well as the changing of damage. Flamethrowers should be outlawed from event jobs and outlawed AGAINST event jobs. To me, the flamethrowers are absolute fucking trash. +1 Link to comment
Fours Posted August 8, 2018 Report Share Posted August 8, 2018 +1, only flamethrower needed is the wrist flamethrower, for Deathwatch event jobs. Even then they spam the shit out of them which is annoying. Link to comment
IKE Posted August 8, 2018 Report Share Posted August 8, 2018 +1 only DW should keep them but some restrictions should be put on them, I feel like a cool weapon should be put in to replace this Link to comment
Luckyy Posted August 8, 2018 Report Share Posted August 8, 2018 -1 I saved 20 mil to get this that's unfair since I specifically wanted this just for it to be taken away 1 Report Link to comment
Arroyo Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 I actually don’t know what to choose i love the flamethrower but I can cause lag and everyone gets pissed with them Link to comment
Scribbles Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 Only +1 if EVERYONE WHO HAS PURCHASED IT, gets a full refund. Link to comment
Bolt Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 31 minutes ago, Lucky said: -1 I saved 20 mil to get this that's unfair since I specifically wanted this just for it to be taken away He did say that it would be refunded too bolt Link to comment
Reddy Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 37 minutes ago, Lucky said: -1 I saved 20 mil to get this that's unfair since I specifically wanted this just for it to be taken away 47 minutes ago, Carter said: Implementation: Just remove them, refund the people that bought them +1 They are pure cancer Link to comment
Max Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 +1 Only should be used for events not normal weaponry Link to comment
NotTaz Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 -1. I don't think it needs to be completely taking away, just make some changes to it. 1 Report Link to comment
vExalted Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 +1 get that trash off the server you can't hear or see anything when you're lit on fire. just refund players who bought it. Link to comment
BigZach Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 (edited) +1 also give everyone compensation for having to put up with them. Edited August 9, 2018 by BigZach "I'm not toxic. You're just making it really hard to not treat you like an idiot." - Logic Link to comment
Sanchez Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 +1 also refund people full price who bought them plus a little extra Link to comment
Stockings Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 -1 1 Report People Who Put Their Former Ranks In Their Signature Are Idiots! Community Liaison - Discord Boo Radley#2719 Feel free to message me if you're having any issues! Link to comment
Luckyy Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 26 minutes ago, BigZach said: +1 also give everyone compensation for having to put up with them. No that's too many people and yall didnt have save up for them Link to comment
BigZach Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 Just now, Lucky said: No that's too many people and yall didnt have save up for them It was a joke about how cancerous they are and how we should get compensated for it "I'm not toxic. You're just making it really hard to not treat you like an idiot." - Logic Link to comment
TayTay Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 -1 the players who have bought these earned them by either afking for A MONTH or gambling for it. Which is no easy feat only way I see this being OK is if they are reinbursed for their purchase. 1 Report Link to comment
Dragon Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 -1 about 10-15 people actually have this weapon. They are just always on since they are incredibly active. Only a small portion of this community actually have them. Plus that are people, like myself who donated to the server to get money specifically for the flamethrower, therefore it is unfair to remove. 3 Report Link to comment
Patrick Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 +1 Please, Every Event jobs dream. Being ignited by fire, and the Constant flashing red freaking blood screen. Gives me PTSD just thinking about it Link to comment
Bbstine Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 Hey guess what, we've tried this once and it didn't go so well chief. To flamethrower owners, fuck you. You'll get your fucking money back heathens. +1 fuck the flamethrowers 2 Report Link to comment
Banjans Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 +1 For the sake of my fucking vision. I don’t want to be set on fire again. Link to comment
J.Jefferson Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 (edited) -1 I wasted four days of my life getting the advanced flamethrower. A lot of people complain that it's overpowered against event jobs, what about you just buff event jobs and stop complaining. Also, only like five people on the server have a flamethrower. Edited August 9, 2018 by J.Jefferson 1 Report Former Positions: 41st XO 41st Green Leader 41st Faie Temple Guard Manager/Cin Overseer Gamemaster Link to comment
Baelfire Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 Strongly agree to this. If you have ever been hit by a flamethrower you would also +1 this. +1 because when you get hit you see nothing but red (Like what happens when you get shot.) none stop ontop of seeing fire on your screen. Literally it becomes unplayable if you get hit. Unless you play in third person which even then it becomes hard still. Former Boss, Former Fixer, Former Sev Former Jaing, Former Prudii Former Bardan Jusik/Skirata Former SOBDE Regimental Commander Link to comment
yakory Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, J.Jefferson said: -1 I wasted four days of my life getting that advanced flamethrower. A lot of people complain that it's overpowered against event jobs, what about you just buff event jobs and stop complaining. Also, only like five people on the server have a flamethrower. the thing is if they buff event job then its gonna get unfair for people who dont have flamethrower cause its gonna take 3 time longer to kill event job Link to comment
Prince Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 1 minute ago, yakory said: the thing is if they buff event job then its gonna get unfair for people who dont have flamethrower cause its gonna take 3 time longer to kill event job But the event job can't see shit. The point isn't the damage, it's the visual. 2 Report Link to comment
J.Jefferson Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, yakory said: the thing is if they buff event job then its gonna get unfair for people who dont have flamethrower cause its gonna take 3 time longer to kill event job Well then buff the normal DC-15a and DC-15s. I mean it's a flamethrower it's supposed to be good that's why it's so high in price, it's not easy to obtain. I am surprised the current GMC hasn't found a way around this but instead putting up a server suggestion to remove them entirely. Edited August 9, 2018 by J.Jefferson Former Positions: 41st XO 41st Green Leader 41st Faie Temple Guard Manager/Cin Overseer Gamemaster Link to comment
Baelfire Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 (edited) Exactly what prince said. If yall could remove the god awful cancerous visual effects then I think flamethrower would be more accepted. Edited August 9, 2018 by Mishue 2 Report Former Boss, Former Fixer, Former Sev Former Jaing, Former Prudii Former Bardan Jusik/Skirata Former SOBDE Regimental Commander Link to comment
Praydoh Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 -1 I donated hundreds just to get the flamethrowers and other perm weapons. I've probably bought tac-inserts, sweps, VIP for over 30 people at this point. The flamethrower is meant to be wielded by a minority of people who have the means to do it. You don't see a kid with their parent's credit card doing it because frankly, what kind of parent would rationally allow them to donate at least $800 for an item on a Gmod server. People who bought it have earned it. Plus, a majority of the time that friendlies are set on fire are when they get too close, willingly or unwillingly or when they accidentally run into it while the person in question is setting an event job on fire. I don't recall an instance where a person with a flamethrower deliberately RDM or set mass groups of people on fire, do you? 2 Report Link to comment
OneNiner6719 Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 (edited) -1 while they can be annoying, removal of flamethrowers as a whole would make me a sad, because they're really fun for infected events, especially when spawned in by a gamemaster, and also, people paid for that weapon, it's not something you can just "have" Edited August 9, 2018 by OneNiner6719 1 Report Link to comment
Shade Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 +1 I don't care how much people saved up they ruin the first for the rest of us. Link to comment
Vaal Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 4 hours ago, J.Jefferson said: -1 I wasted four days of my life getting the advanced flamethrower. A lot of people complain that it's overpowered against event jobs, what about you just buff event jobs and stop complaining. Also, only like five people on the server have a flamethrower. Five too many, Jefferson. Link to comment
Retired Founder Forseen Posted August 9, 2018 Retired Founder Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 For those that have them, I suggest you be an event job and get chased by someone with a flamethrower (like you do to them). It is literal cancer and ruins the fun for everyone other than you. +1 As pointed out by @J.Jefferson the visual effect sucks, but damage isn't too bad.. eh Link to comment
J.Jefferson Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Forseen said: For those that have them, I suggest you be an event job and get chased by someone with a flamethrower (like you do to them). It is literal cancer and ruins the fun for everyone other than you. +1 If you could please tell me an event what has been ruined by a flamethrower. Also, not a lot of people have them and people have sink'ed real life money into the server just to get one. Lastly, the flamethrower isn't really that OP most of the damage comes from the visual effect. Weapons such as the bowcaster, GM westar, and other perma weapons are way better in sense. Edited August 9, 2018 by J.Jefferson 1 Report Former Positions: 41st XO 41st Green Leader 41st Faie Temple Guard Manager/Cin Overseer Gamemaster Link to comment
Taur Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 +1 Pls even though it got denied before Link to comment
Avavel Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 Maybe just remove the visual effect and just has it deals damage ? why not suggest that instead e.e Link to comment
TayTay Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 53 minutes ago, Avavel said: Maybe just remove the visual effect and just has it deals damage ? why not suggest that instead e.e I don't think remove it but possibly change it to a different effect And as Jefferson said there are only about 10 people who own the flamethrougher 5 of which still play on the server and there are people who spent 400 FUCK DOLLARS (bc they're insane) like @Dragon The point i'm trying to get at is the very few people who do own them worked their asses off to get them And for the gamemasters be creative and work around them just because you don't like them doesn't mean they "ruin the event" Link to comment
Hero Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 +1 not gonna lie flame throwers cuck over my events sometimes Link to comment
Metro Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 +1 fuck a flamethrower "We'll get it done, Colonel. Six out." Link to comment
Stern Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 +1 As long as they are refunded Link to comment
Riddler Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 -1 Select amount of people have these from what I've heard. Rare weapon and a LOAD OF MONEY 1 Report Link to comment
BlackiSblack Posted August 9, 2018 Report Share Posted August 9, 2018 -1 BUFF DUEL 17s (Dont ban meh) Link to comment
Maxwells Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 Its unfair to people that have already bought it and want to keep it. What you should propose is changing the burning time of it which is not that hard. <--- You reading this Link to comment
Chambers Posted August 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 21 minutes ago, Maxwells said: Its unfair to people that have already bought it and want to keep it. What you should propose is changing the burning time of it which is not that hard. It's not the damage or the burn time which is the problem, the problem is the effects make it impossible for anyone to see anything. (What's the point of changing burn time if they are just going to ignite you again?) Link to comment
Maxwells Posted August 10, 2018 Report Share Posted August 10, 2018 20 minutes ago, Carter said: It's not the damage or the burn time which is the problem, the problem is the effects make it impossible for anyone to see anything. (What's the point of changing burn time if they are just going to ignite you again?) Well changing the Burntime to 1 Will only indicated that will be burning for 1 Second everytime they waste one ammo you get burned one second its a pretty good tradeoff. Unlike the one that is in the server right now, Which is stupid <--- You reading this Link to comment
Freck Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 +1 and here's why. The 1 person that I've seen with a flamethrower is an absolute retard with it. The Weapon is cancer, just remove it and refund the cash. Simples. Maybe replace it with another weapon?! 1 Report British Link to comment
Pighen Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 +1 make events fun again Current: GM Pighen | Jedi KU Knight Simms Link to comment
Arroyo Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 52 minutes ago, Freck said: +1 and here's why. The 1 person that I've seen with a flamethrower is an absolute retard with it. The Weapon is cancer, just remove it and refund the cash. Simples. Maybe replace it with another weapon?! I better get my 25 mil of this gets accepted lol Link to comment
Bbstine Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 yikes, time for director approval amirite guys lmao 1 Report Link to comment
Freck Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Arroyo said: I better get my 25 mil of this gets accepted lol 25 mil? I thought it was 15 mil?! British Link to comment
Pythin Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, Freck said: 25 mil? I thought it was 15 mil?! I think he bought Both Of Em Former: Liaison Link to comment
Freck Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Pythin said: I think he bought Both Of Em Quality example of a retard right there ... LOL (LMAO, @Arroyo <3) British Link to comment
Pythin Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Freck said: Quality example of a retard right there ... LOL (LMAO, @Arroyo <3) @Freck Quality example of a retard right there ... LOL 1 Report Former: Liaison Link to comment
Arroyo Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, Freck said: Quality example of a retard right there ... LOL (LMAO, @Arroyo <3) I have only 1. The advanced one which is 25mil Link to comment
Mike Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 lolwut the adv is 20 mil Link to comment
Freck Posted August 12, 2018 Report Share Posted August 12, 2018 2 hours ago, Mike said: lolwut the adv is 20 mil Thats what I thought?! British Link to comment
Feds Posted August 13, 2018 Report Share Posted August 13, 2018 +1 they just piss people off and are ineffective. Link to comment
J.Jefferson Posted August 13, 2018 Report Share Posted August 13, 2018 24 minutes ago, Feds said: +1 they just piss people off and are ineffective. If they are ineffective why is this suggestion up then? @Feds 1 Report Former Positions: 41st XO 41st Green Leader 41st Faie Temple Guard Manager/Cin Overseer Gamemaster Link to comment
Feds Posted August 13, 2018 Report Share Posted August 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, J.Jefferson said: If they are ineffective why is this suggestion up then? @Feds Because they piss people off and it's just blinds people against npc's it's ineffective. Link to comment
Mike Posted August 13, 2018 Report Share Posted August 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, Feds said: Because they piss people off and it's just blinds people against npc's it's ineffective. it stops npc fro being able to shoot Link to comment
Feds Posted August 13, 2018 Report Share Posted August 13, 2018 Just now, Mike said: it stops npc fro being able to shoot But you have to rush out into a crowd of droids when trying that and bullets push you back. Also this doesn't matter stop starting shit over stuff like this. Link to comment
Mike Posted August 13, 2018 Report Share Posted August 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, Feds said: But you have to rush out into a crowd of droids when trying that and bullets push you back. Also this doesn't matter stop starting shit over stuff like this. how am i starting shit i just said whats true lolwut Link to comment
Feds Posted August 13, 2018 Report Share Posted August 13, 2018 Just now, Mike said: how am i starting shit i just said whats true lolwut This would go back and forth is what I mean. Link to comment
Esitt Posted August 13, 2018 Report Share Posted August 13, 2018 Sorry, not going to happen, people payed real money for that shit. DENIED //Locked //Moved to Server Suggestions - Denied 4 Report Link to comment
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