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Name: Marvel RP Rank: Private Suggestion: Remove Doom’s Unit Implementation: Deploy Commander Doom and his men to Ringo Vinda in search of that 501st clout Lore: N/A Workshop content if applicable: N/A (If no workshop content, suggest a developer or put "Require Development") If you are asking to add or change a job, fill out the following Add or Change: Change (Any job modification requires all this information) Job: All Doom’s Unit jobs Slots: 0 Description: N/A Model: N/A (Provide the model string if on server Ex. models/player/synergy/cblake/ls_squad/ls_trp/lstrp.mdl (Get this from the Q menu) Weapons: N/A (If you want a modfication to a weapon/saber you must put the weapon string in the suggestion. Ex. tfa_e5 (Get this from the Q menu)) Other: Obviously this stems from a multitude of reasons. In the opinions of many there are quite a lot of battalions, factions, and groups on the server that split our playerbase very thin as is. Removing a battalion will reallocate a good number of people among all these different groups. Doom’s Unit in its current state is the most logical as it has consistently been the most problematic battalion on the server for a very long time. It’s numbers have always struggled and it’s reputation has never been that great to be completely honest. At best all they add to the server is a little bit of diversity (which we already have a ton) and shields. Battalion diversity right now is really just the paint job of your armor due to there not being any battalion buffs so really we aren’t losing anything major to the server besides shields which can easily be given out to another battalion or a certain job in every battalion like HVO or HVY. CG is definitely a viable choice to receive shields as they already share them with DU a little. All in all removing Doom’s Unit might be the best option. I’ve talked with quite a few people regarding this subject and I have personally been an advocate for removing a battalion or two for a long time now. I truly believe more battalions would be better off if there were less battalions to stretch our playbase thin. On the last remove DU post which was handled poorly I did come to DU’s defense in a way but mainly because of how bad the suggestion was taken care of. For a long time now DU hasn’t been extremely popular with the community and I can’t even count how many times I have been involved in conversations where DU is talked down upon and someone almost always brings up “Why not just remove it”. Ultimately in the end I do agree with most of these people. However a very good argument is that 21st was on the chopping block and they got a second chance. This is very true but being completely honest I don’t think it entirely worked. I do believe it helped wash away their very terrible mindsets however the battalion itself still can barely keep good numbers and their activity is all over the place. At the end of the day I don’t think the 21st wipe solved anything besides getting rid of some deep scars on the battalion. There are still just too many battalions on the server and of these two battalions I believe DU has always struggled more than 21st making it the logical choice. Also removing a battalion will open up the opportunity to potentially replace it later on in the future with something new. Synergy hasn’t had a new battalion in a very long time and adding something new and fresh can really be a good thing. Heck it doesn’t even need to be another clone battalion. We could look at another faction or something along the lines. Though this would obviously be talked about way down the line if removing one battalion proved to improve the other battalions with numbers and activity. DU Is again the logical choice because they have very few numbers when compared to the rest of the battalions. They’re at an all time low and it would be best to do it now rather than allowing someone else to go in and give it their all, only for the battalion to die again and lead us right back here. Currently DU is on the rise again due to the assistance of High Command stepping in and taking the reins however DU has gotten back on it’s feet in the past only to be knocked down again extremely easily. A lot of these people joining are typically joining because they can gain something from this whole ordeal whether it be rank or power. As soon as High Command leaves the battalion to focus on their other responsibilities I guarantee the battalion will not last long. Even if maybe the first BCMD after HC steps away does decently the next one can easily do very poorly and the community will just grab their pitchforks again and call for their removal. The recent events should not be used as an argument as to why DU should not be removed. It is honestly too late at this point and a repeat of what happened to 21st will not solve anything either. Finally the main reason I have come to the conclusion that this might be the best course of action is I have actually thought about going in and helping DU. Maybe even apply for BCMD but I think the community has honestly already decided that DU just isn’t worth it. I feel like anyone could come in and save the battalion but if the next BCMD or the next one after that fails to deliver on the community’s high expectations we’ll just be back at square one and everyone will be hoping for it’s removal once again. Which is extremely likely at this rate. I know that every battalion goes through their phases where they’re active and thriving or they’re inactive and struggling but the reason this happens is because of the amount of different battalions and factions we have. This will never be solved unless we start trimming some of the fat. Also this suggestion by no means is to offend anyone in DU, past or present. I know a lot of people have put a ton of blood, sweat, and tears into that battalion but honestly it’s a never ending cycle at this point. I don’t believe it is healthy to continue to allow battalions to constantly go through these phases where they’re either doing decent/meh to really bad. Please do not flame DU or it's members in the comments below and be courteous. Put yourself in their shoes. I am open to any debates on this topic either here on the forums, discord, and TS. If you need to reach me on discord my user is Ruusaar#1337

+1 I’ve finally developed a cure for dinaric and his radical thoughts we have gone through rough times to come to this point. This man is like the radical version of Kanye he just is misunderstood what a shame أخي سوف نتولى هذا الخادم وننشر أفكارنا الراديكالية الجديدة لإعادة حياة جديدة للوطن الأم

-1 Heyo, its Razen, I been around the block recently and I want to put my point out there onto why we need to keep DU. To anyone that wants to say DU is a "filler" battalion or a "extra battalion just taking up space" then you are totally wrong. Dooms Unit has been on the server for quite some time now, and Ill admit yes its had its moments. The first main reason is the heart of the battalion itself. This Battalion still contains some solid people that have made some sort of positive presence within the battalion. People are currently grinding their ass off attempting to save the battalion that is 10 feet away from its downfall. You've got people sitting here recruiting and non stop training, and continuously mentoring others around them to make the Battalion a more serious place to come to, as well as a more enjoyable environment within the server. Yall gonna sit here and talk about activity when today itself our singular line in debrief damn near outnumbered the entirety of the server in the debrief, in the middle of prime time on a Wednesday. Regardless of numbers, you have people desperately panicking to do everything they can to help save the battalion that they have ever so loved since being on the server. There is people that have put countless hours into Dooms Unit, and some legendary people that have come out of this battalion after countless hours of work and grind as well as dedication. And honestly, how you gonna drop this post right when DU is finally getting the help it needed?! I may have been in this battalion for not even 24 hours but the amount of fight they still have left in them is too much to give up on them now. Obviously everyone has an opinion, so I feel as if someone attempting to say "removing DU will help balance battalion numbers out more" doesn't sound accurate whatsoever. If DU is "inactive" then how does that even affect the other battalions numbers? Nobody is being forced to join this battalion, but I've seen to much heart and grind within the inside of the Battalion to give up on them just yet. Patience seems to be a big problem sometimes on this server, and when nobody can wait for something they will not hesitate to go to the forums and make it worse. I will not change this vote as one too many people have had an effect on this battalion, and removing it is already basically getting more people out of a community that needs the new members.

Alright resident Dooms Unit Founder Dennis here. So as we can all expect -1 dumb suggestion 1. Removing battalions to "add something" is a dumb theory come to the table with something you want added then, battalion faction etc. Don't just start screaming bloody murder battalion dead cuz its dealing with low numbers. Everyone is like this because high command has taken such a public front in this. The same suggestion could have been posted for Rancor, or 41st, or 21st, 104th whoever is "dead" at the time. It just happens to be Dooms Unit right now, marvel you of anyone should know battalions come and go and only 501st and 212th and 1 or 2 others really pop off and do well while one is dead and the others struggle to fight for the middle of the pack. 2. "Too many battalions" is a lame excuse for what is considerably a lower player pop currently. We struggle to retain players and gain new ones that stay. GMOD is a old as balls game and not a lot of people want to play it or come to it. While we do get CT's and new players they have a lot of options to choose from and that's not a bad thing. Having a variety isn't bad, yes some things wont be as popular but you still have people who don't want to run in a main stream battalion. 3. Wipe, BCMD apply whatever it wont truly fix the issue that doing these things only helps for a short while. Battalions do well when they have strong leadership that can help set up the future. When i came back as doom that is what I did, three pretty successful doom terms for the most part, what has really taken a toll on the battalion is people having IRL issues and having to take a step back. TLDR: this is such a knee jerk reaction to a long standing problem the server has faced since i joined back in 2018 of battalions being active and some being not, its just not DU's "time right now" they have their moments and so do other battalions. The problem isn't the amount of battalions its, keeping players and not forcing them out because we don't "like them" or trying to get CT's / new recruits to come back. That is where the key lies in the success of the server. Not in removing battalions cuz they are having a hard time and people have to focus on their real lives. Its time for the community to not sit here and push for removal but to take this as an opportunity to learn, help grow the community and expand their knowledge and break the clique they always run in. Try something new enjoy different aspects of the server and not push to remove unique things from the server after one BCMD application gets denied.

Name: Guac RP Rank: Expert Nae Nae'er Suggestion: Re-add the placeable turbolasers within the turbolaser tool we already have. Implementation: Don't know if this is a bug report, I am kinda just assuming it was removed; However, the re-implementation of the "Placeable Turbolaser" tool would act as an incredibly powerful asset to the GM team. As of not, it is incredibly difficult to provide any immersion through space battle without having a designated GH be "Turbolaser man". This tool was baller asf and I do not know why it was removed. I don't know what this feature was called by the way. I know if you pressed R with the tool gun out it would place and auto-firing, fully customizable, turbo laser stream. Lore: Kurluvion system | Wookieepedia | Fandom

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, that will last for about 2 weeks. it always does

There are countless Individuals who are all trying to make sure that DU doesn't go Six Feet Under and this Post doesn't help. I'd say more but I think my point is clear -1

+1, it’s unfortunate this had to happen but if you ask me, it’s not going to get better. With the state it’s In, DU is holding on to dear life. Anyone who is going to go for BCMD is most likely going to be shot down because of the whole 1-1 transfer up to XO going on right now and For the people coming in to help they are “trying to make ice cream out of poop”. Not a dig at anyone trying to go help. I actually respect and admire people who dropped their former battalions to go help. It’s just really thinking about it. It’s the right choice.

Honestly, I believe not removing it is just delaying the inevitable. I love the battalion with all my heart and really have the passion for it. I always want to help it, but after reading this post. Wow. I am blown away by this. I am not going to vote yet as I haven't thought about it rather just speaking my mind, but honestly really think this is a reoccurring topic of interest when it comes to "removing DU." To be honest if it's always going to reach a state of depression when a BCMD is removed or someone of leadership leaves, then why keep it? Even when I was Doom my main priority towards the end of my term was to avoid that but yet again it's just the battalion itself and the way it's held in the server, so it's really hard to continue to strive for that unless it's given the ol'21st treatment or just plain out removed.

I was joking around with him and he told me to kill myself I knew it was a joke and he got banned if y’all didn’t know. Don’t think that was the only reason but it was the final straw. +1 from me. He didn’t really deserve the ban in my eyes

+1 Good to see you are willing to change. Never to late to give people a second chance. Life can get hard sometimes, and we let out that energy on the server, believe me I did that too, so if you need someone to talk to to just get stuff off your chest, then I’m always here to chat.

212th imo Foxtrot has always been the outcast in SOBDE. not too sure about now tho

@Hanz whats your take

Name: shroud RP Rank: PVT Suggestion: remove DU Implementation: press remove button Lore: fake sub unit, dead battalion Workshop content if applicable: N/A (If no workshop content, suggest a developer or put "Require Development") If you are asking to add or change a job, fill out the following Add or Change: Remove it entirely (Any job modification requires all this information) Job: DU Slots: N/A Description: shit battalion and its dead Model: N/A (Provide the model string if on server Ex. models/player/synergy/cblake/ls_squad/ls_trp/lstrp.mdl (Get this from the Q menu) Weapons: N/A (If you want a modfication to a weapon/saber you must put the weapon string in the suggestion. Ex. tfa_e5 (Get this from the Q menu)) Other: N/A

+1 Monty suggestion

+1 US economy hitting our clone wars server hard and i think allowing for more credits to players will ease the burden of it

Small is exactly what we want. Main server isn't catered to only events in the grand scheme of things, and making the map bigger would only create more issues. For example, extensive has seen a lot of updates since the last time we played it, and the more KingPommes does to that map, the worse it gets in terms of performance. I can tell you right now that the second we switch to that map and sit on it for at least 10-20 minutes, the complaints about lag and the pure horror of hosting an event on it will be catastrophic. Another issue with having the map itself expanding out into a bigger size would be the fact that you just won't run into anyone as often as you should. We want people to see one another in multiple spots, and with extensive, there'd be one or two meeting spots at most. Yes, it's great for RP, but if times call for it that's exactly why we have event server.

Now this I cant agree with my good sir. I dont think its right at all to jus go out simply saying battalions are differenced from their color. there so much more to it and that statement is incorrect because of it. Battalions are truly seperated by the people that are in it, the different sub units and trainings within them, the different battles they have fought in lore, the different objectives each battalion has and what they wanna accomplish truly seperate all these different groups of people on the server. Theres more reasons then that for sure, but those are some main ones I wanted to mention. DU has a goal, and objectives, and wants to shine like the other battalions around them. Also Id like to point out that I also disagree with the "people joining because of high command", and honestly I could give a rats ass if high command was involved in DU or not. I can name atleast 10 people that have recently joined that have come here to do nothing but help this battalion prosper and succeed since HC took over, and not because charge is being taken by High Command but because people have hearts and a love for this battalion, and they want nothing but to help and keep the battalion consistent in their duties. And being fair, I feel as if maybe a few people are going to try to take advantage and powerplay, but with HC overlooking everything nothing like that will be allowed to happen. Everything takes time, and if people can not wait for something to grow again how will we ever grow as a community again, especially if we cant wait for things to prosper and have a positive effect on the server. Yes, DU may not be as important as some other battalions, but it still has a huge role within the server and has people still putting their desperate time into it.

-1 More variety, more action

As a former Keller, +1

I've changed my mind on this. I don't think a change in this way is warranted. -1

After thinking it over im changing to a -1. all of what i said still applies but i think DU gets one more chance. however ONE more chance. if they cant keep it together after high command leaves then i still say go ahead and pull the trigger I mean no disrespect to any current or former DU when I say this but: DU is a filler battalion. If you get to have TWO battalion exclusive perks (three back when every battalion had stat buffs) and you can't hold maintain good numbers without higher ups then you have a problem. DU has also been the battalion thats always first to come up when the topic of axeing a battalion comes up and even though 327th, 91st, 38th, and 187th all took its place on the chopping block instead, the fact I saw DU come up consistently every single time is very telling. Give the shield to heavy (because the one perk they actually get is dogshit) and deploy DU permanently

Yes I know this and I acknowledge it in my suggestion. This cycle has been around even back when the server hit 128 players consistently and it's just not healthy. Why allow this cycle to continue where battalions are just constantly struggling only to have maybe 3 months of the year where they're doing maybe a little okay? The server pop is much lower now and the best solution for this issue is less battalions so that the players aren't spread so thin. I would much prefer to see less battalions where they can have at least 5+ members on each rather than having a ton of battalions where with our numbers some battalions will barely even have one member online. I personally didn't choose DU to be on the chopping block because any of the recent CMD application drama or whatever has been happening. Honestly if it were up to me I would go as far as to remove 2 or 3 battalions because yes there may be variety but what good does variety do if all there is that differentiates battalions are the color of their armor. Yes battalions have their moments but in the time that I have been on the server DU has struggled the most. It takes old heads applying for Doom for the battalion to thrive for maybe 3 months, their term ends, and the battalion goes right back into the gutter. DU is on the rise currently but because High Command is being so hands on with the battalion. None of the people that have recently joined DU would have joined if High Command wasn't involved and there is nothing to guarantee that after High Command steps away from DU that they won't just fall back down again. No other battalion has gotten this treatment and yeah other battalions have gone through similar scenarios of low numbers and inactive members. 21st is the only other example and that was Founder interference for more reasons than just activity and numbers. This is a never ending cycle.