Make Ammo Buyable Only From The Armory

Phil · February 27, 2019

Name: 501st Executive Officer Dogma | Phil

Suggestion: Make Ammo Buyable Only From The Armory

Implementation: Removing It from the F4 Menu and making it buyable only from the Armory

Lore: N/A, No Lore, but making it so you can buy it from the Armory would be more RP friendly, because currently people can just constantly buy it in combat and have infinite ammo, It would also force people to go buy ammo from the armory before events and going out on patrols.

Workshop content if applicable: IDK make it so you press E on an ammo crate in the Armory and it opens up a menu
(If no workshop content, suggest a developer or put "Require Development")

And to everyone -1 this, please put an actual reason, and not just "It wont work" "It's a terrible Idea",
Give feedback to posts and why they wouldn't work, don't just jump on a bandwagon and -1 without an actual reason.
If you give a great example it could give others ideas on how to improve them and add newer stuff.

Edited March 1, 2019 by Phil
"And to everyone -1 this..."

Itachi · February 27, 2019

+1

Cronis · February 27, 2019

+1 makes a lot of sense. RP friendly. Also have to find a solution for the event server unless it stays the same there

Marvel · February 27, 2019

+1

Will add some much needed immersion

Phil · February 27, 2019

3 minutes ago, Cronis said:

Also have to find a solution for the event server unless it stays the same there

True

Edited February 27, 2019 by Phil

GM-3022 Havok · February 27, 2019

-snip-

Edited February 27, 2019 by GM-3022 Havok

Hero · February 27, 2019

+1 makes armory useable

Arroyo · February 27, 2019

what if someone is going to a training session in CSR. Do they have to run back to armory...buy ammo.... then run back?

Scarecrow · February 27, 2019

+1 But It would also be nice to be able to have something that could deploy ammo in the field something with limited amounts maybe it would a tension and pressure to hold out style events

Phil · February 27, 2019

5 minutes ago, Scarecrow said:

+1 But It would also be nice to be able to have something that could deploy ammo in the field something with limited amounts maybe it would a tension and pressure to hold out style events

Make backpacks deploy ammo?

Peace · February 27, 2019

Would definitely make QM useful again +1

Qal · February 27, 2019

+1 HOWEVER. There NEEDS to be Resupply Crates that can be used for Events/Roleplay. As well as MAKE it so you can PURCHASE more that just Plasma Rounds .... AKA Flame Thrower Munitions, Rocket Munitions, Grenade Munitions...

Bbstine · February 27, 2019

Let me tell you why this is a terrible idea.

1. The fake armory feels like fort knox trying to get past CG, imagine what it's like with real ammo.

2. Let us say you are out in the middle of the jungle on the main server and you need ammo, what now then? Pull back that advantage point you've got just to fetch some ammo? I think the fuck not.

3. The MRP crate system was ass, period.

-1, why would you even try this.

GM-3022 Havok · February 27, 2019

Now, before I +1 or -1 I have a few questions:

Will there be an ammo crate only in armory?

Will there be an inventory system so you can buy ammo crates and load them into your gun whenever you need ammo?

Will there be multiple crates spread across the map? (like in MRP?)

Can you buy more than just pulse ammo? (I wanna load 100 rockets into my launcher maaaan.)

Edited February 28, 2019 by GM-3022 Havok

Scribbles · February 28, 2019

+1.

This would make stuff immersive.

Baboon · February 28, 2019

+1 We could try it

Bobonater3 · February 28, 2019

trust me, this was a thing before and it was 100% terrible, cool to have but will suck

-1

Fizzik · February 28, 2019

-1 it would suck.

Phil · February 28, 2019

1 hour ago, Arroyo said:

what if someone is going to a training session in CSR. Do they have to run back to armory...buy ammo.... then run back?

They could put ammo crates infront of CSR/CIT/CQC, and up in the outposts.

Mike · February 28, 2019

-1 I would rather splatter my brains on the wall and respawn then run to the armory to get my ammo

Arroyo · February 28, 2019

18 minutes ago, Phil said:

They could put ammo crates infront of CSR/CIT/CQC, and up in the outposts.

Are you talking about the ammo crates that you press e and it gave you free ammo?

those were banned, unless the rule was removed

Phil · February 28, 2019

12 minutes ago, Arroyo said:

Are you talking about the ammo crates that you press e and it gave you free ammo?

those were banned, unless the rule was removed

Yes and no, instead of them giving you free ammo it opens up a menu where you can buy it

BigZach · February 28, 2019

-1 i agree with bbstine this is ass.

Edited February 28, 2019 by BigZach

Jonah Mar · February 28, 2019

I wanna say +1 for the RP, but practically it would not work. Especially when you are outside the base and need ammo. While it would encourage everyone going on patrol to stop by the armory to arm up before going out, there are people who would literally never do it. So because of that, I am gonna stay neutral.

Luckyy · February 28, 2019

-1 rather not have to keep returning

Edit: Actually Id Reccomend chaning this station to where you can buy 1000 rounds at the armory for a while lot cheaper but with bguying from f4 it costs more

Edited February 28, 2019 by Lucky

Chambers · February 28, 2019

How about this.

Make ENGs useful.

ENGs can spawn ammo in for others in combat

Everyone protects ENGs like Medics cause they love to shoot shit

Everyone else gotta go hit up armory for ammo if not ENGs alive

easy clap

GM-3022 Havok · February 28, 2019

9 minutes ago, Lucky said:

-1 rather not have to keep returning

Edit: Actually Id Reccomend chaning this station to where you can buy 1000 rounds at the armory for a while lot cheaper but with bguying from f4 it costs more

To add on to this: Maybe you can buy rockets and flamethrower ammo at the armory too?

Twelves · February 28, 2019

-1

DracoOdinson · February 28, 2019

-1 what lucky said

Snadvich · February 28, 2019

-1 Let me just /ct and give up whatever point I was defending to the droids cause I ran outta ammo. That’ll sure go over well.

Heart · February 28, 2019

11 hours ago, Carter said:

How about this.

Make ENGs useful.

ENGs can spawn ammo in for others in combat

Everyone protects ENGs like Medics cause they love to shoot shit

Everyone else gotta go hit up armory for ammo if not ENGs alive

easy clap

Make it like battlefield ezclap ~~locked moved to accepted~~

Phil · February 28, 2019

16 hours ago, Bbstine said:

2. Let us say you are out in the middle of the jungle on the main server and you need ammo, what now then? Pull back that advantage point you've got just to fetch some ammo? I think the fuck not.

That's how military and logistics work. When you head out on a Patrol and If you know you're going to be out there for too long you're going to bring extra ammunition and supplies.

And adding to getting ammo in the field. It would be neat if they could make it so you could get ammo from LAATs, so they would actually be used more than just transporting people. But it would be difficult with them being banned when there's 100+ people on.

If you don't do that when going out then that's a you problem chief for being lazy.

Edited February 28, 2019 by Phil

Forseen · February 28, 2019

14 hours ago, Carter said:

How about this.

Make ENGs useful.

ENGs can spawn ammo in for others in combat

Everyone protects ENGs like Medics cause they love to shoot shit

Everyone else gotta go hit up armory for ammo if not ENGs alive

easy clap

-1 to the main suggestion (sorry Phil love you) because it’s immersive but at the same time this is a game server.

+1 to @Carter’s idea or to @Baxter’s idea!

Phil · February 28, 2019

14 hours ago, Jonah Mar said:

I wanna say +1 for the RP, but practically it would not work. Especially when you are outside the base and need ammo. While it would encourage everyone going on patrol to stop by the armory to arm up before going out, there are people who would literally never do it. So because of that, I am gonna stay neutral.

But that would encourage people to actually do it. The first time they go out they might forget and get themselves killed and they would say to themselves "alright next time we go out we're going to stop by the armory and gear up."

And because a "few" individuals refuse to get ammo before going out because "they don't agree with this system" then the whole server shouldn't be punished. I agree that some people won't agree with this because "too much effort" (honestly it's not, you're just going to the armory and opening a menu to buy ammo) but I do believe it would give others more to do before going out.

Phil · February 28, 2019

45 minutes ago, Forseen said:

-1 to the main suggestion (sorry Phil love you) because it’s immersive but at the same time this is a game server.

+1 to @Carter’s@Baxter’s

Don't worry It's a suggestion anyway. I just want more interaction with objects and people on the server

Life- · February 28, 2019

-1 what lucky said.

Papa Zest · February 28, 2019

If our ability to eat and drink for actual RP reasons (*cough* because we are human and actually need food and water?) got denied what makes you think this will get accepted?

Yeah it's "realistic" if you look at it from a certain view, but it's just one more annoyance that would make us more frustrated.

-1

Baboon · February 28, 2019

4 minutes ago, Zest said:

If our ability to eat and drink for actual RP reasons (*cough* because we are human and actually need food and water?) got denied what makes you think this will get accepted?

Yeah it's "realistic" if you look at it from a certain view, but it's just one more annoyance that would make us more frustrated.

-1

The reason the foodrp got denied because it was buggy you didn’t even see why it was denied. Also both of these suggestions were made at the same time.

Papa Zest · February 28, 2019

1 minute ago, Greek said:

The reason the foodrp got denied because it was buggy you didn’t even see why it was denied. Also both of these suggestions were made at the same time.

I did see why it was denied, hence why I brought it up... It was a comparison for why this will get denied, as it being an annoyance like eating and drinking...

I know they were put at the same time, all of them were right after the community meeting.

*Facepalms*

My -1 still stands.

Edited February 28, 2019 by Zest

Marvel · February 28, 2019

Yikes. Imagine complaining about running when majority of the day most of you are running around in circles in courtyard or in the base because you got nothing to do omegalul.
This will add some much needed immersion.
Also yes I believe that we should then rework a class so that they can give Ammo sorta like the GM Support Trooper can give armor.
Maybe Battalion Heavies and/or ENGs should be able to deploy Ammo crates during battle, and in my opinion they should also be able to give extra armor.

Edited February 28, 2019 by Marvel

Ccmonty · February 28, 2019

HARD -1. think of having to run from your bunks to the armoury, then run to the cit/csr, then doing it again everytime you die. overall seems like a huge annoyence just for a little bit of lore

Bazoo · February 28, 2019

-1 its kinda just annoying, it will just be really crowded in events and if you are a bravo and missing bullets thats a yikes

Phil · February 28, 2019

2 hours ago, Bazoo said:

-1 its kinda just annoying, it will just be really crowded in events and if you are a bravo and missing bullets thats a yikes

Outposts have armories 4head

Pythin · February 28, 2019

Bruh this is wack. Do you realize, in all realism, that to get to armory you need to pass ST everytime. It would be like that scene in Lion king when he gets ran over by a stampede. Either the ST would give up getting sick en tired of waving everyone to go in, or he’ll start whacking his stick at all ya.

either way buying it as a buyable to players is soo much easier, and they are already a part of some trainings. Trust me it won’t work. Just be better to by via the store

-1

TrijiM · February 28, 2019

-1 to tedious. I also agree with Bbstine's point

GM-3022 Havok · March 1, 2019

Unless we add an inventory system where you can buy and store cases of ammo and use them on demand, its a fat -1 from me.

Because think about it: People die constantly during events, and you lose any and all ammo you gain upon death. So if there's an invasion in the courtyard, and everyone is constantly dying and losing their ammo they spent 3000+ on, Armory will be constantly crowded with people trying to load up on ammo from one ammo vendor and run back to the front lines. (I literally got out of an event server event where there was an ammo dispenser, and people were crowding around it trying to get as much ammo as possible. It was cancer.)

Not only that, but you cant bring ammo with you from the main server to the event server, so people would be begging the gamemaster to spawn ammo for them so they aren't useless during the event. And if you run outta ammo during the event, you are completely outta luck and may as well pull out your fists and beat droids to death. ~~(Which is exactly what the GMs did one time but that's besides the point.)~~

The only way this would work is if you didn't lose all of your gained ammo on death, or if an inventory system that I just mentioned is implemented where you can store as much ammo as you need and use it on demand. I have seen other servers do this, so it is definitely possible. This would also save people a ton of credits because instead of spending credits on ammo spawning, they can just load their gun with as much ammo as they need, and still have ammo in reserve to use for no additional cost. Also, as mentioned before, you should make it so you can buy rockets and flamethrower fuel from the armory.

Otherwise, -1

Edited March 1, 2019 by GM-3022 Havok

Heart · March 1, 2019

Wait here I'm going to make a discovery

Heart · March 1, 2019

/thread

Stockings · March 1, 2019

-1 terrible idea

Ccmonty · March 1, 2019

21 minutes ago, Heart said:

/thread

this could be cool and i can see some events using it well however my -1 still stands

Hayley · March 2, 2019

I like the idea and your reasoning behind it. But in my opinion it makes things difficult especially when doing events/trials, etc... I like the idea of buying it in the shop. It makes it cost money. Unless maybe if you either raise the price of ammo, or if this does get implemented maybe having multiple places in the base, and outside the base to get ammo. This will allow getting ammo more efficient during events/trials, etc... Ex. Putting buyable ammo in CIT, CSR, CQC area. There are armories in Bravo and Alpha.

So I am -1 for now, unless there will be tons of places where ammo can be bought.

Phil · March 2, 2019

7 minutes ago, Hayley said:

Ex. Putting buyable ammo in CIT, CSR, CQC area. There are armories in Bravo and Alpha.

That was the plan anyway, I should have worded the suggestion differently.

Hayley · March 2, 2019

2 hours ago, Phil said:

That was the plan anyway, I should have worded the suggestion differently.

+1 now thanks Phil for making this suggestion

Usefulgamer · March 3, 2019

+1 it’d be even more epic if there were different ammo types but this ain’t arma 3 lmao

Esitt · March 4, 2019

This has been tried before and was an AWFUL idea. Never will work. I would try speaking with @Carter about his idea and make that into a suggestion.

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