ARF Changes

[bwhaley5]

Name: Sneaky

RP Rank:PFC

Suggestion:  Adding Thermal Scopes and Medical Stimpacks

Implementation: Adding thermal Scopes to DC-15x as like a scoping option or a whole separate gun option for ARF would be the best way to do it. And Adding medical stims to the ARF Whitelist like Stimpacks in fallout or something along that line of though. here is a workshop link for a ACOG thermal scope and the stims i think these could work concept wise but may need to be developed in house to fit in a star wars setting https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3161191076&searchtext=Star+wars+stim https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2160806471&searchtext=Thermal+Scope

Lore: . Look up ARF on wookiepedia under the legends category and you'll see that Thermal scanners and medical syringes are like core pieces of ARF trooper kits so a modified version of this would be the scopes and the Stims. Its simple Sniping tools that make sense ARF stays in the back line medics don't sit with us all the time Stims would help fix that and Thermal scopes would allow for cool night time events and other things.
 

Approved by BCMD Wolffe (Juggernaut) of 104th

[bwhaley5 0]

Name: Sneaky

RP Rank:PFC

Suggestion:  Adding Thermal Scopes and Medical Stimpacks

Implementation: Adding thermal Scopes to DC-15x as like a scoping option or a whole separate gun option for ARF would be the best way to do it. And Adding medical stims to the ARF Whitelist like Stimpacks in fallout or something along that line of though. here is a workshop link for a ACOG thermal scope and the stims i think these could work concept wise but may need to be developed in house to fit in a star wars setting https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3161191076&searchtext=Star+wars+stim https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2160806471&searchtext=Thermal+Scope

Lore: . Look up ARF on wookiepedia under the legends category and you'll see that Thermal scanners and medical syringes are like core pieces of ARF trooper kits so a modified version of this would be the scopes and the Stims. Its simple Sniping tools that make sense ARF stays in the back line medics don't sit with us all the time Stims would help fix that and Thermal scopes would allow for cool night time events and other things.
 

Approved by BCMD Wolffe (Juggernaut) of 104th

[Mystic]

I noticed you said Approved by BCMD Wolffe. Is this a server suggestion? or a suggestion for 104th ARF?

[Mystic 1,496]

I noticed you said Approved by BCMD Wolffe. Is this a server suggestion? or a suggestion for 104th ARF?

[Deathtiger]

-1 This would take something unique from Trauma's unit and we already dont have much

[Deathtiger 100]

-1 This would take something unique from Trauma's unit and we already dont have much

[DirtyDanLIT]

8 minutes ago, Deathtiger said:

-1 This would take something unique from Trauma's unit and we already dont have much

Don't all ARF's already have the DC-15X? Like what unique thing is being taken away from Traumas unit?

Edited April 7, 2025 by DirtyDanLIT

[DirtyDanLIT 553]

8 minutes ago, Deathtiger said:

-1 This would take something unique from Trauma's unit and we already dont have much

Don't all ARF's already have the DC-15X? Like what unique thing is being taken away from Traumas unit?

Edited April 7, 2025 by DirtyDanLIT

[Deathtiger]

6 minutes ago, DirtyDanLIT said:

Don't all ARF's already have the DC-15X? Like what unique thing is being taken away from Traumas unit?

ARF having Medical Supplies in their kits

[Deathtiger 100]

6 minutes ago, DirtyDanLIT said:

Don't all ARF's already have the DC-15X? Like what unique thing is being taken away from Traumas unit?

ARF having Medical Supplies in their kits

[DirtyDanLIT]

That's not really taking away anything special of Trauma's unit to be honest. Sure, I'm aware of the lack of identity Trauma's unit has but I don't think it's selling point is "We have medical supplies as an ARF". 

[DirtyDanLIT 553]

That's not really taking away anything special of Trauma's unit to be honest. Sure, I'm aware of the lack of identity Trauma's unit has but I don't think it's selling point is "We have medical supplies as an ARF". 

[Conrad]

-1, ARF definitely could use a boost, but just taking something from another group (ability to heal from medic, even if it is a unique premise) and putting it into the group will make MED weaker.

Edited April 7, 2025 by Conrad

[Conrad 2,465]

-1, ARF definitely could use a boost, but just taking something from another group (ability to heal from medic, even if it is a unique premise) and putting it into the group will make MED weaker.

Edited April 7, 2025 by Conrad

[Marvel]

I would support this if they got like one stim in their kit and if Medics were able to refill their stims outside of dying. I understand ARF troopers might be ahead of the main force and having that one stim could keep them alive longer in tight situations but how stims work right now it will only take away from MED.

Edit: Just read your reasoning for stims because theyre snipers rather than recon forces kinda makes it worse. If they’re so far back they shouldn’t be getting shot much at all lmao. I could’ve understood the argument that they’re way up ahead performing recon but if they’re sitting in the back line they should be just fine.

-1 to stims. Would recommend making a separate suggestion for the thermal binos tho cuz that I would support.

Edited April 7, 2025 by Marvel

[Marvel 3,308]

I would support this if they got like one stim in their kit and if Medics were able to refill their stims outside of dying. I understand ARF troopers might be ahead of the main force and having that one stim could keep them alive longer in tight situations but how stims work right now it will only take away from MED.

Edit: Just read your reasoning for stims because theyre snipers rather than recon forces kinda makes it worse. If they’re so far back they shouldn’t be getting shot much at all lmao. I could’ve understood the argument that they’re way up ahead performing recon but if they’re sitting in the back line they should be just fine.

-1 to stims. Would recommend making a separate suggestion for the thermal binos tho cuz that I would support.

Edited April 7, 2025 by Marvel

[BROPDROP]

14 minutes ago, Marvel said:

I would support this if they got like one stim in their kit and if Medics were able to refill their stims outside of dying. I understand ARF troopers might be ahead of the main force and having that one stim could keep them alive longer in tight situations but how stims work right now it will only take away from MED.

Currently medics have new stims that recharge which are kinda better than the old stims

[BROPDROP 395]

14 minutes ago, Marvel said:

I would support this if they got like one stim in their kit and if Medics were able to refill their stims outside of dying. I understand ARF troopers might be ahead of the main force and having that one stim could keep them alive longer in tight situations but how stims work right now it will only take away from MED.

Currently medics have new stims that recharge which are kinda better than the old stims

[Marvel]

28 minutes ago, BROPDROP said:

Currently medics have new stims that recharge which are kinda better than the old stims

Wait that’s fire. I would be fine with ARF getting a one time use stim like the old ones tho but not the rechargeable one then.

[Marvel 3,308]

28 minutes ago, BROPDROP said:

Currently medics have new stims that recharge which are kinda better than the old stims

Wait that’s fire. I would be fine with ARF getting a one time use stim like the old ones tho but not the rechargeable one then.

[BROPDROP]

1 hour ago, Marvel said:

Wait that’s fire. I would be fine with ARF getting a one time use stim like the old ones tho but not the rechargeable one then.

yeah would be cool

[BROPDROP 395]

1 hour ago, Marvel said:

Wait that’s fire. I would be fine with ARF getting a one time use stim like the old ones tho but not the rechargeable one then.

yeah would be cool

[Zar]

+1 to changing ARF.
Dart gun potential?

[Zar 116]

+1 to changing ARF.
Dart gun potential?

[Juggernaut]

+1 ALL of ARF needs a boost!
this suggestion is for the Whole server not just 104th that is why I gave the clearance.
 @Mystic

Edited April 8, 2025 by Juggernaut

[Juggernaut 121]

+1 ALL of ARF needs a boost!
this suggestion is for the Whole server not just 104th that is why I gave the clearance.
 @Mystic

Edited April 8, 2025 by Juggernaut

[Funnyman]

3 minutes ago, Juggernaut said:

+1 ALL of ARF needs a boost!
this suggestion is for the Whole server not just 104th that is why I gave the clearance.
 @Mystic

for a suggestion that affects the whole server u would need director approval 

[Funnyman 203]

3 minutes ago, Juggernaut said:

+1 ALL of ARF needs a boost!
this suggestion is for the Whole server not just 104th that is why I gave the clearance.
 @Mystic

for a suggestion that affects the whole server u would need director approval 

[Juggernaut]

2 minutes ago, Funnyman said:

for a suggestion that affects the whole server u would need director approval 

.....not gonna lie that is kinda stupid but okay then @Danny @Moose_Wundo Thoughts?

[Juggernaut 121]

2 minutes ago, Funnyman said:

for a suggestion that affects the whole server u would need director approval 

.....not gonna lie that is kinda stupid but okay then @Danny @Moose_Wundo Thoughts?

[Zeros]

-1 on the medical supplies idea, takes away from Trauma and MED overall which struggles enough.

Does ARF currently have the macrobinocs?

[Zeros 315]

-1 on the medical supplies idea, takes away from Trauma and MED overall which struggles enough.

Does ARF currently have the macrobinocs?

[zlock]

-1 why would a non medic class need a way to heal i don't see you needing a way to self heal when we for sure see people healing for you whether it be a Jedi or a Med WL
Another point is the thermal scope sounds cool but what applications would you need it? ARF troopers are known for driving AT-RTs I think having that makes the class stand out i think adding either of these make the class more worth then any of your other options.

[zlock 160]

-1 why would a non medic class need a way to heal i don't see you needing a way to self heal when we for sure see people healing for you whether it be a Jedi or a Med WL
Another point is the thermal scope sounds cool but what applications would you need it? ARF troopers are known for driving AT-RTs I think having that makes the class stand out i think adding either of these make the class more worth then any of your other options.

[Charles]

-1 For the healing ability 

[Charles 178]

-1 For the healing ability 

[Obsidian]

-1. The reason ARF and Recon struggle to gain traction is not because the ARF kits are particularly lacking, or because the concept of recon isn’t enjoyable. It’s because this is a primarily PVE server and events, deployments, and general RP isn’t structured very well to support it. It’s fairly blatant when you look at the 41st for example, with our new recruits being able to select ARF or HVY instantly. Many new players will flock to ARF purely because recon sounds cool, and the kit comes with a sniper. The issue is, as I said before, this is primarily a PVE server; you can conduct recon and do literally everything right, stay concealed, but still get detected and start getting shot at by the AI because portions of the map have improper collision. That moves me to my next point, the map really isn’t built with recon in mind. Sure, there’s loads of vantage points and areas that overlook points of interest, but most of those areas are either difficult or impossible to reach without a jetpack or getting yourself stuck in a rock. Along with that, whenever the rare opportunity does come up for recon to be a viable option, generally speaking by the time you’ve established yourself and can begin your RP, the rest of the server has pushed up/past you and the information you could’ve obtained is already widespread knowledge. That will forever be the case so long as you have Jedi that can traverse the entire map in seconds, and a clone force of 40+ people that can decimate any objective in a few minutes unless they’re getting bombed to shit. 
 

To finish this off - I actually do agree that most troopers should have access to very basic medical supplies, 1-2 of the old stims really isn’t harmful to medics and makes sense. But, with the way events, encounters, and deployments are structured (Generally being very 1 lane, run and gun), it just doesn’t make sense. There is rarely ever going to be a chance where you can’t find a medic while literally the entire server is clustered in/focused on the same area. This server and PVE gmod in general just isn’t built well to accommodate for recon, and likely never will be.

Edited April 9, 2025 by Obsidian

[Obsidian 18]

-1. The reason ARF and Recon struggle to gain traction is not because the ARF kits are particularly lacking, or because the concept of recon isn’t enjoyable. It’s because this is a primarily PVE server and events, deployments, and general RP isn’t structured very well to support it. It’s fairly blatant when you look at the 41st for example, with our new recruits being able to select ARF or HVY instantly. Many new players will flock to ARF purely because recon sounds cool, and the kit comes with a sniper. The issue is, as I said before, this is primarily a PVE server; you can conduct recon and do literally everything right, stay concealed, but still get detected and start getting shot at by the AI because portions of the map have improper collision. That moves me to my next point, the map really isn’t built with recon in mind. Sure, there’s loads of vantage points and areas that overlook points of interest, but most of those areas are either difficult or impossible to reach without a jetpack or getting yourself stuck in a rock. Along with that, whenever the rare opportunity does come up for recon to be a viable option, generally speaking by the time you’ve established yourself and can begin your RP, the rest of the server has pushed up/past you and the information you could’ve obtained is already widespread knowledge. That will forever be the case so long as you have Jedi that can traverse the entire map in seconds, and a clone force of 40+ people that can decimate any objective in a few minutes unless they’re getting bombed to shit. 
 

To finish this off - I actually do agree that most troopers should have access to very basic medical supplies, 1-2 of the old stims really isn’t harmful to medics and makes sense. But, with the way events, encounters, and deployments are structured (Generally being very 1 lane, run and gun), it just doesn’t make sense. There is rarely ever going to be a chance where you can’t find a medic while literally the entire server is clustered in/focused on the same area. This server and PVE gmod in general just isn’t built well to accommodate for recon, and likely never will be.

Edited April 9, 2025 by Obsidian

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[Guac 573]

Unfortunately, this suggestion has been DENIED.

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  • Ex: 35mb for one model.
• Lack of feedback.
  • Ex: Post has been up for 3 weeks and only received 1-10 votes.
• Majority negative feedback.
• Bad optimization and/or causes bad performance on the server.
• Having multiple suggestions within one thread.
• Bothering leadership/development team regarding a suggestion.
• Suggesting a previously denied suggestion within 60 days of denial.

 

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