Changes to Spotting Cloakers

[Marvel]

Name: Marvel

RP Rank: MILF Hunter

Suggestion: Give all jobs that can see cloakers access to the suit zoom feature that highlights players in order for them to actually be able to spot cloaked players instead of relying on an honor system.

Implementation: I'm hoping this is something that can be done as it's just a console command but just give it to all RC, SO, Jedi Master, and Assassin Droid jobs

Lore: N/A

Workshop content if applicable: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1644695678 this is the addon we use
(If no workshop content, suggest a developer or put "Require Development")

Jobs: 

All RC jobs
All SO jobs
Jedi Master
All Jedi Master Lore Character jobs
Assassin Droid

Other: I figure this is something that can be done seeing as we limit buying armor to certain jobs and what not. All this would do is allow RC and SO to utilize the command that highlights players when using suit zoom that way we no longer have to rely on an honor system which since the dawn of time has only ever caused issues. I think this is a great way to get rid of that dated system and move to something that would create less of a headache for everyone.

[Marvel 3,308]

Name: Marvel

RP Rank: MILF Hunter

Suggestion: Give all jobs that can see cloakers access to the suit zoom feature that highlights players in order for them to actually be able to spot cloaked players instead of relying on an honor system.

Implementation: I'm hoping this is something that can be done as it's just a console command but just give it to all RC, SO, Jedi Master, and Assassin Droid jobs

Lore: N/A

Workshop content if applicable: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1644695678 this is the addon we use
(If no workshop content, suggest a developer or put "Require Development")

Jobs: 

All RC jobs
All SO jobs
Jedi Master
All Jedi Master Lore Character jobs
Assassin Droid

Other: I figure this is something that can be done seeing as we limit buying armor to certain jobs and what not. All this would do is allow RC and SO to utilize the command that highlights players when using suit zoom that way we no longer have to rely on an honor system which since the dawn of time has only ever caused issues. I think this is a great way to get rid of that dated system and move to something that would create less of a headache for everyone.

[Xaze]

Would you rather a suit zoom that does it, or just be able to see them w/ an outline?

 

 

[Xaze 499]

Would you rather a suit zoom that does it, or just be able to see them w/ an outline?

 

 

[Brooklyn]

This was in that final days of anaxes, but the issue was that people would call out cloakers from MHB all the way to Main Gate. How will the rules work for making someone uncloak or prevent meta gaming/abuse?

[Brooklyn 1,214]

This was in that final days of anaxes, but the issue was that people would call out cloakers from MHB all the way to Main Gate. How will the rules work for making someone uncloak or prevent meta gaming/abuse?

[Hanz]

Huge +1 this would end people breaking cloaking rules.

54 minutes ago, Brooklyn said:

This was in that final days of anaxes, but the issue was that people would call out cloakers from MHB all the way to Main Gate. How will the rules work for making someone uncloak or prevent meta gaming/abuse?

Honestly I think this is just something we will have to deal with. Officers of those who can see cloaks will need to make sure people are not doing this and punish them if they are. I think this stops a lot of people breaking cloaking rules. I think the benefits outweigh the negatives here.

[Hanz 671]

Huge +1 this would end people breaking cloaking rules.

54 minutes ago, Brooklyn said:

This was in that final days of anaxes, but the issue was that people would call out cloakers from MHB all the way to Main Gate. How will the rules work for making someone uncloak or prevent meta gaming/abuse?

Honestly I think this is just something we will have to deal with. Officers of those who can see cloaks will need to make sure people are not doing this and punish them if they are. I think this stops a lot of people breaking cloaking rules. I think the benefits outweigh the negatives here.

[Guest]

+1 , 

My honest reaction

 

This is what i look like in lore

Edited April 15, 2023 by Bacta

[Guest]

+1 , 

My honest reaction

 

This is what i look like in lore

Edited April 15, 2023 by Bacta

[Metro]

+1 - Honor System isn't the best way to do this, I like this suggestion or @Xaze's take. 

[Metro 477]

+1 - Honor System isn't the best way to do this, I like this suggestion or @Xaze's take. 

[Madara]

+1

Edited April 15, 2023 by Madara

[Madara 26]

+1

Edited April 15, 2023 by Madara

[Brooklyn]

8 hours ago, Hanz said:

Huge +1 this would end people breaking cloaking rules.

Honestly I think this is just something we will have to deal with. Officers of those who can see cloaks will need to make sure people are not doing this and punish them if they are. I think this stops a lot of people breaking cloaking rules. I think the benefits outweigh the negatives here.

You put a lot of trust in that people will actually not meta game. I'm more on the side of making this a system where you literally cannot meta game even if you wanted to. If Xaze can make that happen, sure. But unless he can code distance to activation, this will literally just turn into a non staff spectate mode. -1

[Brooklyn 1,214]

8 hours ago, Hanz said:

Huge +1 this would end people breaking cloaking rules.

Honestly I think this is just something we will have to deal with. Officers of those who can see cloaks will need to make sure people are not doing this and punish them if they are. I think this stops a lot of people breaking cloaking rules. I think the benefits outweigh the negatives here.

You put a lot of trust in that people will actually not meta game. I'm more on the side of making this a system where you literally cannot meta game even if you wanted to. If Xaze can make that happen, sure. But unless he can code distance to activation, this will literally just turn into a non staff spectate mode. -1

[Rohan]

10 hours ago, Brooklyn said:

This was in that final days of anaxes, but the issue was that people would call out cloakers from MHB all the way to Main Gate. How will the rules work for making someone uncloak or prevent meta gaming/abuse?

@XazeIs there way to make it a proximity thing? Like x amount of distance would trigger the outline? Because if that's a thing I think it'll prevent this issue

[Rohan 606]

10 hours ago, Brooklyn said:

This was in that final days of anaxes, but the issue was that people would call out cloakers from MHB all the way to Main Gate. How will the rules work for making someone uncloak or prevent meta gaming/abuse?

@XazeIs there way to make it a proximity thing? Like x amount of distance would trigger the outline? Because if that's a thing I think it'll prevent this issue

[Crisp]

+1 if it can be a proximity thing to reduce metagaming I think it's a good idea

[Crisp 52]

+1 if it can be a proximity thing to reduce metagaming I think it's a good idea

[ToasterBath]

+1 I break cloak rules on purpose 

[ToasterBath 155]

+1 I break cloak rules on purpose 

[Black]

+1 oh yes :)

[Black 442]

+1 oh yes :)

[Zensras]

@Marvel

That mod specifically states it does not highlight cloaked people.  Don't know how much code every Cloak swep shares but i'm gonna bet it's not gonna work.

 

Also:  Restricting armor buys on jobs is miles different than this.   Your comparing apples and bananas with this.

Edited April 15, 2023 by Zensras

[Zensras 239]

@Marvel

That mod specifically states it does not highlight cloaked people.  Don't know how much code every Cloak swep shares but i'm gonna bet it's not gonna work.

 

Also:  Restricting armor buys on jobs is miles different than this.   Your comparing apples and bananas with this.

Edited April 15, 2023 by Zensras

[Unkindled]

+1

[Unkindled 232]

+1

[Finn]

If there's a way to make this work I'm all for it +1

[Finn 730]

If there's a way to make this work I'm all for it +1

[Rizzo]

Huge +1 the honor system doesn't work. It's broken daily, this is a much needed fix.

[Rizzo 132]

Huge +1 the honor system doesn't work. It's broken daily, this is a much needed fix.

[Xiao]

+1

[Xiao 19]

+1

[Buzz]

+1 If it can be worked into the server yes and still be fair I'm all for it. If it isn't I guess we'll find out later.

[Buzz 266]

+1 If it can be worked into the server yes and still be fair I'm all for it. If it isn't I guess we'll find out later.

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