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I really am not opposed to adding more CIS leadership to CIS. I feel it could be good to expand upon the big three and it could help spread interest within CIS. However, adding these two makes little to no sense. If you wouldn't add Maul to CIS, why add Savage? He worked for Dooku for a solid 2 episodes, and he wouldn't add any roleplay. Ventress is even worse, as she as a character who built herself as not being in that fight any longer, and to shoot her back into it when we are 2 weeks from the order makes no sense. However, there are tons of other jobs you could use to supplement. You could use Watt Tambor for example, a dude who worked with Trench and Dooku and who appeared in Season 7, and be another more roleplay oriented job rather than shooting. You could also add Kalani, the Supertactical droid from Season 5 and Rebels, and make him another roleplay job. If you want an action job, you could even add Cad Bane, and help bridge the gap between BH and CIS. If Bane is on, he can call BH to the CIS' aid in operations, and could even provide them with renown and provide some lore sense between the CIS and BH working together, which was done a lot. Besides Tambor, the rest of these jobs are already on server, and make far more sense than adding these two. They make zero sense not only in lore, but their roleplay simply wouldn't function. Dead clones who are dead still function similarly to normal clones. However, for a massive CIS job who defected from the CIS in season 3 to just be vibing would allow for them to just, not really have anything meaningful to add to the conversation. Hope this was helpful and inciteful rather than the monkeys hittin a -1 and just bailing, although I similarly disagree. -1

I haven't heard or seen much of actual roleplay from the existing CIS jobs. Not only does this not make any sense whatsoever, but I don't believe it will actually add anything. -1

-1 Both Ventress and Savage would no longer be apart of the CIS at this point of the war especially at the same time. We should not keep adding onto the list of lore breaking characters onto the server. Nor do I believe the CIS need anymore jobs, especially these two. They would add little to no roleplay because at the end of the day they're just gonna keep force leaping away. It's funny because I have now seen you use lore to argue for things you want and then argue that the server doesn't follow lore to add what you want. You gotta pick a side.

Sure. Very easy fix.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2331029867&searchtext= There is already a suggestion to add Poggle the Lesser into the faction to replace one of Dooku’s Tactical droids. Wat Tambor was added to the pack recently and he could be a viable choice as well seeing as he was involved with the Battle of Anaxes. Maybe he could be one of Trench’s tac droids tbh. Though I question the utilization of Trench and these non combative roles. The CIS was added more as a pvp faction and these few jolly dudes don’t ever fight. They are essentially RP positions similar to senators The Cad Bane idea is golden. It would increase possible interaction between CIS and the Guild and also makes sense. There are a lot of other options out there that would make more sense than bald bitch and horny steroid yellow Maul.

-1 I value gameplay and things that will make people happy a lot more than lore, but unless I see some actual depth to the CIS faction in terms of RP and whatnot, it would just be more irritating to fight in an operation. I suggest thinking of some different droids for the faction. Not more force users

This community is pretty bipolar about picking a spot in the timeline. I recall being dumbed for suggesting that moving to a few weeks before order 66 would cause problems. When I was GMD I set a policy that a gamemaster can host an event at any point in the timeline as long as it is accurately conveyed to the players that the event is set at that particular point (order 66, battle of ringo vinda, first battle of geonosis etc). This removes restrictions on them while also keeping immersion mostly in-tact. Notice this is only for events not encounters since you can't really "flashback" on main server. I believe @Shockpoint has kept this policy in place. I believe there are ways to tell stories similar to these characters experiences without the un-immersivness of having these characters experience / convey them. So -1 for me unless someone can counter my points

I know that and that is why I brought that point up as I thought all the people saying it improves RP was ever foolish and I wanted to point that out. And comms RP outside of Passive stuff is indeed worthless as any and nearly every event has that so that can be treated as special because a raid is happening And as for the well Rancor has half of it command dead and so does the 501st yeah I agree but that doesn't mean we should keep adding to the problem especially for a faction which is glorified event jobs at this point.

-1 The argument of "it doesn't need to follow lore" cannot be used when other suggestions have been made because "it is lore accurate." I also feel CIS does not need two more force wielding OP jobs to come kick our ass. I don't have a real big reason for this, but I just think it wouldn't work too well on the server atm. Take that reason with a grain of salt.

this is dumb... CIS does AT LEAST 1 OP a day

I have been taking some time to think about how to properly word my feelings about this. You said quite a few slanderous things about myself and those that I care about, so I am having a hard time with this. Yes, people can change, but they also don't. The things that I am talking about are not reasons why you were originally banned, but they are reasons why I believe that you should stay banned. Yes, those people proceeded to harass you after things that you said because some of those things that were said may have not been entirely true. What I am trying to say is, you have a very difficult and complicated history with a lot of people on this server. Both good and bad. I believe that I am one of those people who had bad experiences and still have to deal with things that were said to this day. My reputation as a commander and a person in this community was directly damaged because of the things that you and your officers said. You even stuck chambers on me and I was threatened with punishments for deleting docs without so much as a message from you regarding these documents. I will give this appeal a -1 because of all the bad blood between us that I don't think is so easily buried. However, I do wish you luck on this appeal and if you truly have changed, and if not, then good luck in life fellow gamer

Well Rancor and half the 501st lore characters wouldn't be helping the republic at thisvpoint in time.... Yeah I'm not getting more into that. This argument is invalidated, HOWEVER maybe there can be s rule that its either Ventress or Savage during an op, not both. Have you seen some of the primetime ops? Even with NPCs and artillery we get obliterated. Especially if theres alot of jedi. Last op I essentially got bullied by Luther and Yoda lol. A force user will help balance this out a bit. Lastly, the CIS is currently close to incapable of roleplay. Heres why B1, B2, Droideka and Magna Guard are KOS Commando RP is pointless, bc metagaming, and generally overused. However, this leaves comms RP, which exists if you pay attention. Maddox for example is Trench and was roleplaying with Brace in comms yesterday. Dennis could do this too but dooku's exquisite laughter would get old reap fast, Dooku doesn't have very amazing interactions with anyone specific. The addition of Savage and Ventress will create the opportunity to have more interactions. It obviously doesn't just automatically create more rp, thats up to the people holding those positions. Uhm yeah, using lore to explain a good addition is a way to get stuff added, however if you believe its a good addition but isn't lore friendly just look at half of Rancor's command... sometimes its a good idea, even it breaks lore. +1

+1 this could add new Rp or Gameplay for people aka during Cis Ops we have to worry about 2 other force users rather than just Dooku and Grievous.