Artemis - Phoenix Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) I do hereby request that this report be removed. I admit my actions and I will not hide behind anything. Any punishment that comes my way I will gladly accept. Edited July 5, 2018 by Artemis - Phoenix 2 Report Link to comment
Weevil Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) Void Edited July 5, 2018 by Weevil 1 Report Link to comment
BadDog Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 I understand were you are coming from but before I +1 or -1 I would like to hear from skeeti why he done it Spoiler 2ndAC Parjai-4 WO BadDog Former: Head Admin |TCO Commander Kix | Mechanized Regimental Commander | Obi Wan Kenobi | Battalion Commander Cody | Wolfpack Commander Comet |104th Jedi Master Plo Koon |TRD |GMD | Overseer | 2ndAC Commander Barlex | SO Major | DU Commander |Waxer | Foxtrot | Adi Gallia | Quinlan Vos | Skywalker | Consular leader | Shadow leader | Guardian Leader | Gray Jedi Master | Commodore | Wilhuff tarkin Link to comment
Alec Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 +1 I voted for @Illium And my vote stands Link to comment
Firat/Abi Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 I went from Commodore to WO.. but I firstly wanna know why he did it or if hes gonna give it back to everyone. honestly a lot of people left Naval because all their progress were just lost. Link to comment
Max Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) Before I decide anything I need to hear skeeti side first. Personal opinion it seems like a lot of people are confused and mad and this should had been avoided with a naval meeting at least. @Tracker and @Artemis - Phoenix message me on ts whenever you can. Edited July 5, 2018 by Max Link to comment
Taur Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 +1 Naval was just doing so good.... You just killed it.... Link to comment
Tec Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 +1, If he goes we need one of the honorary Commodores to step in. Personally, I believe either @Esitt or @Illium should take over if they're willing that is. Future Dev Team Assistant Current: CT PVT Alpha-14 Tec Former: Fleet Admiral Wullf Yularen, Navy Clone Rear Admiral Tec, Chief of Engineering x2, Jedi Knight Etain Tur-Mukan, Null 7 LT Mereel , 104th Command Sergeant Major Command Sergeant Major, Intel Director of the 104th, Republic Navy, Coruscant Guard, 41st, and 501st, Admin, GM for a Week Link to comment
AdamIGN Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Taur said: +1 Naval was just doing so good.... You just killed it.... +1 same reason but I do wanna hear skeeti even tho I already left naval Link to comment
Artemis - Phoenix Posted July 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 That is our issue max, there was nothing. There was no warning it was fully out of the blue. The people who had been running naval so effectively were completely cast down in favor of what? What good can come of completely beaning every single person in naval irrelevant of their contributions and their time put into naval. Whatever his reason was, whether it was worth his weight in gold or not, the action he chose to enact is the issue. Nuking a batallion is not a justifiable solution to any situation unless your goal is to have it removed. Link to comment
Zyner Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Before anything can be done Skeeti will have to bring up his reasoning for all this. It is completely within the power of a new person in charge to do a wipe; has happened plebty previously when new BCMDs are appointed. What will be interesting is if this was brought up at all during his Commander Interview considering it's a pretty big first move. Link to comment
Alec Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Just now, Zyner said: Before anything can be done Skeeti will have to bring up his reasoning for all this. It is completely within the power of a new person in charge to do a wipe; has happened plebty previously when new BCMDs are appointed. What will be interesting is if this was brought up at all during his Commander Interview considering it's a pretty big first move. But he didn't wipe inactives or minges, He wiped everyone Link to comment
Zyner Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Just now, Alec said: But he didn't wipe inactives or minges, He wiped everyone Still within his power. Had he stated a reason prior to the CMD report he would be technicaally safe but the lack of has put him up st risk of removal only within days of getting the position. Link to comment
ArgonFillips Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) +1 I HOPE THAT HE WILL GET KICKED OUT FOROM THAT POSITION I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY IS HE DOING THAT ITS LIKE YOU ARE BUILDING HOUSE AND SOMEONE COME AND DESTROY IT !!!!!!! Edited July 5, 2018 by ArgonFillips oof Link to comment
Alec Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Zyner said: Still within his power. Had he stated a reason prior to the CMD report he would be technicaally safe but the lack of has put him up st risk of removal only within days of getting the position. Hmm ok Link to comment
Illium Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 I will say that Skeeti had @Esitt Pull all people with a Naval tag who wanted to come to a small meeting. I don't remember what was said but it was about the demotions. Link to comment
Dragon Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Ok, so , he has every right to either remove or demote people. That's not a reason for a report, maybe he wants to rebuild naval his way. It may also be a test to see who is really loyal or who was just there for the rank. 2, everyone who is behind this report fought very hard to make it so that squeaks was not the admiral and that skeeti would get the position. You fought for this. Stop acting like 3 year olds and prove that you are worthy of the rank you used to have. -1 skeeti you do you. 3 Report Link to comment
BigZach Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) +1 naval is an actual shell. It's quite devastating tbh. He done this large wipe as if it was a flick of a finger. It feels as if he had no intent to tell the people that had dedicated their time to Naval and done tonnes of hard work. There was no large meeting, no warning. The small meeting didn't even happen while most if the Naval are on which is more eastern early western based. Even the other admiral didn't know a thing. There was only this:I don't understand how a Rear Admiral can go from this prestigiously high rank to PO1 but a Commodore only gets put to Ensign. If a wipe was to be done in just it should be fair on everyone. There is also going to be a lack of direction in not only naval but also RP in general. Naval are meant to be the leading force in serious RP! With all branches wiped of leads it leaves no direction for RP. I personally done my best as CMO, before I left with reasons unrelated to this matter, to revive the medical branch. I done this, left this spot to KaNeKi and now all that work is gone in the gutter. RIP RP. Edited July 5, 2018 by BigZach "I'm not toxic. You're just making it really hard to not treat you like an idiot." - Logic Link to comment
Artemis - Phoenix Posted July 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 This was apparantly right as it happened but so far as I can gather no actual reason was given 1 Report Link to comment
Artemis - Phoenix Posted July 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) Please keep in mind when looking at that message from Skeeti, we are down to 7 members in naval. To put this into perspective. A BCMD can wipe a batallion to help it regrow, they will keep men in certain positions to allow them to recruit, he will have men in charge of the docs and whatnot to help trainings, and he will make sure the key positions are filled. We have no chiefs of anything, we have no one who can do tryouts, we have no one who can do docs, we have no one. The issue is simply this. He has removed every single shred of infrastructure. We have nothing left, It isnt about the members, it isnt about the demotions, it is not about the ranks. It is about the fact that the Naval team has nothing to hold it up. Edited July 5, 2018 by Artemis - Phoenix Link to comment
Eclipse Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 +1 If this meeting was called, I wasn't notified. I was probably asleep. I have pumped time and dedication into my naval, abandoning my clone almost completely to play on my naval, just to get removed. The reason I was removed? None. They wiped all of us but these guys. What makes these guys special? Who knows. Yes, I do hate fat people. Former Ordo Skirata Link to comment
ArgonFillips Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Dragon said: Ok, so , he has every right to either remove or demote people. That's not a reason for a report, maybe he wants to rebuild naval his way. It may also be a test to see who is really loyal or who was just there for the rank. 2, everyone who is behind this report fought very hard to make it so that squeaks was not the admiral and that skeeti would get the position. You fought for this. Stop acting like 3 year olds and prove that you are worthy of the rank you used to have. -1 skeeti you do you. Juts think what hepend he killed whole naval there is only 7 members left >>???? He have not only fucked up fleet he fucked up Clones !!!! Think a little why are everyone angry why did thay report him !! And probably some of that 7 will leave too so we can say there will be 5 of tham and non of tham can do tryouts so he killed fleet !!!! Edited July 5, 2018 by ArgonFillips oof Link to comment
Taur Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Could have done an @everyone in naval discord for a "pretty" important meeting Link to comment
Alec Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 12 minutes ago, Dragon said: Ok, so , he has every right to either remove or demote people. That's not a reason for a report, maybe he wants to rebuild naval his way. It may also be a test to see who is really loyal or who was just there for the rank. 2, everyone who is behind this report fought very hard to make it so that squeaks was not the admiral and that skeeti would get the position. You fought for this. Stop acting like 3 year olds and prove that you are worthy of the rank you used to have. -1 skeeti you do you. I actually +1d Squeaks because every time I see Skeeti he is AFK 1 Report Link to comment
AdamIGN Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 15 minutes ago, Alec said: I actually +1d Squeaks because every time I see Skeeti he is AFK You and him are not the same time zone bud 1 Report Link to comment
Artemis - Phoenix Posted July 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Dont need to be, he constantly afks so you can see him on in any time zone Link to comment
Alec Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 1 minute ago, KaNeKi said: You and him are not the same time zone bud You do realise that im up until like 5am my timezone and still I only see him AFK Link to comment
GabeTDS Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 +1, get rid of him please, I was a MDM MCPO and I was active and committed and I got beaned. I love naval, sooo yeah Skeeti why??? Link to comment
AdamIGN Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Just now, GabeTDS said: MDM MCPO and I was active and committed not really 1 Report Link to comment
GabeTDS Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Frick you Kaneki, I was going to get on today, and naval is my favorite. Link to comment
Rolenth Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Fuck yeaaaaa, commander report on day 1. Let me say a few things. 1. He is free to rank wipe people as he pleases(within reason) 2. I've seen people sit on a rank and do nothing with it. 3. He hasn't fucked up clones, if needed I'll do both medical and engineer training. Not hard. 4. Maybe he is doing to see the loyal and dedicated members of naval. 5. Squeaks will have to get waived to reapply. 6. Have y'all made a minuscule attempt to talk to him? 7. [WILL INSERT SOON] 6 Report WAS MEDIC Link to comment
AdamIGN Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, Medic said: Fuck yeaaaaa, commander report on day 1. Let me say a few things. 1. He is free to rank wipe people as he pleases(within reason) 2. I've seen people sit on a rank and do nothing with it. 3. He hasn't fucked up clones, if needed I'll do both medical and engineer training. Not hard. 4. Maybe he is doing to see the loyal and dedicated members of naval. 5. Squeaks will have to get waived to reapply. 6. Have y'all made a minuscule attempt to talk to him? 7. [WILL INSERT SOON] Dad has a point Link to comment
Dragon Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 He also just did this. Give him some time to rebuild. Link to comment
Nightmare0 Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 should have pulled out not stay inside look at the mess you have created Link to comment
Dragon Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) @Freck @Squareplease look at this. Everything he has done he has a right to do. This report is just people crying. Edited July 5, 2018 by Dragon 1 Report Link to comment
Arroyo Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 -1 This report is just people crying over the fact that squeaks didn’t get this job 2 3 Report Link to comment
J.Jefferson Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 -1 I disagree with most of the demotions in naval right now, but he has the right to do it. Have you guys tried talking to him? Former Positions: 41st XO 41st Green Leader 41st Faie Temple Guard Manager/Cin Overseer Gamemaster Link to comment
Alec Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Just now, Arroyo said: -1 This report is just people crying over the fact that squeaks didn’t get this job Half the people here didnt even vote for Squeaks Link to comment
BigZach Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 When people talk about people be salty about people losing ranks. You dumb? This is for the wellbeing of naval not them being salty! "I'm not toxic. You're just making it really hard to not treat you like an idiot." - Logic Link to comment
Zodiac Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 lmfao but doesnt he have every right to do so? speak to HIM if you have issues, he hasn't done anything wrong. Link to comment
Artemis - Phoenix Posted July 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Artemis - Phoenix said: Please keep in mind when looking at that message from Skeeti, we are down to 7 members in naval. To put this into perspective. A BCMD can wipe a batallion to help it regrow, they will keep men in certain positions to allow them to recruit, he will have men in charge of the docs and whatnot to help trainings, and he will make sure the key positions are filled. We have no chiefs of anything, we have no one who can do tryouts, we have no one who can do docs, we have no one. The issue is simply this. He has removed every single shred of infrastructure. We have nothing left, It isnt about the members, it isnt about the demotions, it is not about the ranks. It is about the fact that the Naval team has nothing to hold it up. Its funny that people are saying we are salty about our ranks being lost, when in actual fact a group consensus has already been put into this report. This is why we are filing this. This is why we are triggered, not because of squeaks, not because of any other random reason you wanna pull out of your arse, the quoted message is why NAVAL is appealing this. Link to comment
BigZach Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, Zodiac said: lmfao but doesnt he have every right to do so? speak to HIM if you have issues, he hasn't done anything wrong. He has the right. The thing he has done wrong is the execution. All the branch leads. Wiped. All Intel Wiped. Only 2 maybe one capable officers stand (excluding skeeti) Who cares about squeaks We all voted against her and for skeeti. 1 Report "I'm not toxic. You're just making it really hard to not treat you like an idiot." - Logic Link to comment
GideonAlistair Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Mr. Stark I don't feel so good... 2 Report Link to comment
Tec Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 12 minutes ago, GideonAlistair said: Mr. Stark I don't feel so good... Goddamnit Gideon Future Dev Team Assistant Current: CT PVT Alpha-14 Tec Former: Fleet Admiral Wullf Yularen, Navy Clone Rear Admiral Tec, Chief of Engineering x2, Jedi Knight Etain Tur-Mukan, Null 7 LT Mereel , 104th Command Sergeant Major Command Sergeant Major, Intel Director of the 104th, Republic Navy, Coruscant Guard, 41st, and 501st, Admin, GM for a Week Link to comment
Tyzen Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Well I would like to point out something here skeeti has all the right to do what he did, it just seems like you guys are over reacting cause you are all bitching cause you lost your rank. I don’t really agree with a full wipe but that was his desicion and you need to respect that desicion it’s his naval now he has all the power to do so with demoting a removing anyone he so pleases. So honestly guys I know you are mad but he did everything in his power here you didn’t do anything that he couldn’t do. Imma have to -1 sorry guys but you can’t just get him removed then move on to the next one when he did everything right in this situation. Im not here to start shit I’m just pointing out he has every right to do what he did. 2 Report Link to comment
Ching Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 I mean, don't get me wrong, this was a very harsh way of doing it. However, I feel like this needs to be though in both senses of both people. Skeeti possibly wants people to work up again and reform how promotions will work. Yes, as said in the beginning very unusual and harsh way of doing so. Sure, tryouts can't be put out but maybe he just wants to stick with this group of however many people. Again, I'm not sure if this is correct but this is my "assumption". Link to comment
Chambers Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 -1 It's his perogative to do a wipe if that's what naval needs, I only see about 10 when I am on and usually that's in groups of 2 or 3 but it's always the same names. Link to comment
Andrews Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 19 minutes ago, Carter said: -1 It's his perogative to do a wipe if that's what naval needs, I only see about 10 when I am on and usually that's in groups of 2 or 3 but it's always the same names. What he said. If you were a BCMD, and wanted you to do a wipe. That’s your choice. The head of the battalion/group has full control over his or her battalion/group. Link to comment
Spooky Posted July 5, 2018 Banned Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 +1 there was actually no reason for the wipe Link to comment
Pythin Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) +1 YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE. YOU WERE SUPPOSE TO BRING BALANCE! Spoiler Edited July 5, 2018 by Pytin Former: Liaison Link to comment
Sock Monkey Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 I get the idea that Skeeti has the right to wipe naval as he is the commanding officer, but when you collapse your entire battalion because you can, there needs to be checks and balances to make sure an actual reason is there. this "purge" seems outright stupid as naval have already struggled a lot in the past. Wiping the ranks of all the dedicated members is just asking for a coup. +1 even though the right to purge is there, it does not justify how things were carried out and shows that Skeeti is not ready and should not be Admiral. 1 Report :) Link to comment
187th_Jeckson Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 -1 I do think that he could have done things better but i believe that he can still fix naval for the better Link to comment
Artemis - Phoenix Posted July 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 AS OF NOW THIS IS VOID. ALL Further comments are void. Link to comment
IKE Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Im a rebel and posting a comment Link to comment
Arroyo Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, Artemis - Phoenix said: AS OF NOW THIS IS VOID. ALL Further comments are void. Well It just got voided. Link to comment
GabeTDS Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 (edited) I originally said +1 to this but sorry I will talk to you, Skeeti later and see whats up... Edited July 5, 2018 by GabeTDS Link to comment
Arroyo Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, GabeTDS said: What does void mean? It means the report is invalid. It’s no more. It’s a way of the person who posted to say he wants it to be deleted Link to comment
Freck Posted July 5, 2018 Report Share Posted July 5, 2018 Denied Voided by the person that made the report British Link to comment
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