K-Vin Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 Name: K-Vin | Kal Skirata RP Rank: Major Suggestion: Add Climb SWEP to select jobs. Implementation: Requires a workshop addon Lore: Climb SWEP innately is not a "Lore" thing but it is a utility item that allows the server to attain lore type of capabilities to classes without cluttering the server. - Jetpacks: There are many squads on server that could have jetpacks and would fully fit the classes lore, but for obvious reasons can not ALL be given jetpacks. Climb SWEP goes a long way in provided that for those whitelists/roles without a negative hit towards those that do have jetpacks. - Grapple Hooks/Guns: Many, Many, Many, clone troopers and commandos had and would use grapple hooks as a means to traverse so in lore this would make alot of sense. The issue with grapple guns themselves as a counter argument is the huge abuse of swinging around like spider man, or grapple hooking on to flying ships etc. Climb SWEP allows the RP capabilities of "Grappling up a wall" and can also serve the purpose of removing the option of "/me grapples up the wall" where they proceed to noclip up anyways. - ARF: This would bring a whole new life to ARF trooper/whitelists and also for any recon battalions. They are supposed to be able to gain high ground and get positions that a recon trooper or a ARF should and would be able to. The variety it can bring to the "Scouts" of the server would be huge. Workshop content if applicable: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=113495466&searchtext=climb+swep If you are asking to add or change a job, fill out the following if not, leave it out. Add or Change: This is something that would need further discussion on what classes get this as I don't believe all should, but roughly I would say any SOBDE to avoid the requirement of giving them jetpacks or grapple guns that they normally had. A lot of 41st, possibly a Green Company exclusive thing to give them another piece of kit for people to be interested in. All of the mercenaries, or some of the militia who would realistically have a jetpack but do not. Rancor in generally having a large portion of the ARF troopers could utilize it greatly as well. Description: There is a huge dynamic that Climb SWEP can provide to the server, and allow for a huge amount of creativity in how squads and battalions play, and the opportunities for events to have scouting battalions actually Scout Out prior to an event or something, without giving them all, loud, and very powerful jetpacks. - Skill: Climb SWEP is a utility item that adds a MASIVE amount of skill and practice for people to improve on. There are loads of unique techniques, and skillful ways to traverse and navigate areas using this item. It is a skill that people can turn into trainings, or entertainment for others, such as open climb SWEP courses in the CSR for people to practice and improve their form. - Tryouts/Training: Like with Skill, this item can provide and whole new portion for people to practice and test others on in their skill and proficiency with. It makes people have a reason to go and join a squad or battalion that has the item in order to practice and try to get the skills necessary for squads and positions that have difficult but attainable tests for it. - In-Game Application: Climb SWEP unlike jetpacks and grapple guns give a Unique and fun method of getting around in events but limits them from the capabilities of the others. People with climb SWEP are unable to suddenly be on a Muni or Providence like you can with jetpacks meaning that it does not take away from the huge advantage that jetpack users have while still giving that ARF like feeling and gameplay that people would look for. Events can have a wall that "Must be scaled by those ARF troopers to drop the ray shield on the other side to let the forces in!" while also having jetpacks not allowed by by the event, giving verticality variance without having jetpacks fly right over everything. - Enforcement: Like anything on the server, there needs to be rules when something like this is added. There are very obvious ones that can be enforced by CG or Staff such as no climb SWEP on base, or no wall grabbing on to someone's head, or stuff like that, but other than that there are not many "Exploits" or "Abuses" for climb SWEP that can not be covered with a simple, Climb SWEP abuse is strictly not allowed. Two that come to mind if any to make it transparent and clear of what people CAN do with it is "Super Jumping" which is the climb SWEP rolling followed by Bhopping, or "Climb SWEP flying" Which is an abuse using ceilings with the item. Closing Statement: I have spent many hours practicing and honing skills with Climb SWEP and think it is an overall positive for the server to provide uniqueness to roles, and a new way of enjoying the servers gameplay. I understand this is a significant change but I implore you to think of the unique capabilities and enjoyment that it can bring to the server. I am happy to explain and go more in depth about this with anyone who asks! 1
Posted December 23, 2024 Name: K-Vin | Kal Skirata RP Rank: Major Suggestion: Add Climb SWEP to select jobs. Implementation: Requires a workshop addon Lore: Climb SWEP innately is not a "Lore" thing but it is a utility item that allows the server to attain lore type of capabilities to classes without cluttering the server. - Jetpacks: There are many squads on server that could have jetpacks and would fully fit the classes lore, but for obvious reasons can not ALL be given jetpacks. Climb SWEP goes a long way in provided that for those whitelists/roles without a negative hit towards those that do have jetpacks. - Grapple Hooks/Guns: Many, Many, Many, clone troopers and commandos had and would use grapple hooks as a means to traverse so in lore this would make alot of sense. The issue with grapple guns themselves as a counter argument is the huge abuse of swinging around like spider man, or grapple hooking on to flying ships etc. Climb SWEP allows the RP capabilities of "Grappling up a wall" and can also serve the purpose of removing the option of "/me grapples up the wall" where they proceed to noclip up anyways. - ARF: This would bring a whole new life to ARF trooper/whitelists and also for any recon battalions. They are supposed to be able to gain high ground and get positions that a recon trooper or a ARF should and would be able to. The variety it can bring to the "Scouts" of the server would be huge. Workshop content if applicable: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=113495466&searchtext=climb+swep If you are asking to add or change a job, fill out the following if not, leave it out. Add or Change: This is something that would need further discussion on what classes get this as I don't believe all should, but roughly I would say any SOBDE to avoid the requirement of giving them jetpacks or grapple guns that they normally had. A lot of 41st, possibly a Green Company exclusive thing to give them another piece of kit for people to be interested in. All of the mercenaries, or some of the militia who would realistically have a jetpack but do not. Rancor in generally having a large portion of the ARF troopers could utilize it greatly as well. Description: There is a huge dynamic that Climb SWEP can provide to the server, and allow for a huge amount of creativity in how squads and battalions play, and the opportunities for events to have scouting battalions actually Scout Out prior to an event or something, without giving them all, loud, and very powerful jetpacks. - Skill: Climb SWEP is a utility item that adds a MASIVE amount of skill and practice for people to improve on. There are loads of unique techniques, and skillful ways to traverse and navigate areas using this item. It is a skill that people can turn into trainings, or entertainment for others, such as open climb SWEP courses in the CSR for people to practice and improve their form. - Tryouts/Training: Like with Skill, this item can provide and whole new portion for people to practice and test others on in their skill and proficiency with. It makes people have a reason to go and join a squad or battalion that has the item in order to practice and try to get the skills necessary for squads and positions that have difficult but attainable tests for it. - In-Game Application: Climb SWEP unlike jetpacks and grapple guns give a Unique and fun method of getting around in events but limits them from the capabilities of the others. People with climb SWEP are unable to suddenly be on a Muni or Providence like you can with jetpacks meaning that it does not take away from the huge advantage that jetpack users have while still giving that ARF like feeling and gameplay that people would look for. Events can have a wall that "Must be scaled by those ARF troopers to drop the ray shield on the other side to let the forces in!" while also having jetpacks not allowed by by the event, giving verticality variance without having jetpacks fly right over everything. - Enforcement: Like anything on the server, there needs to be rules when something like this is added. There are very obvious ones that can be enforced by CG or Staff such as no climb SWEP on base, or no wall grabbing on to someone's head, or stuff like that, but other than that there are not many "Exploits" or "Abuses" for climb SWEP that can not be covered with a simple, Climb SWEP abuse is strictly not allowed. Two that come to mind if any to make it transparent and clear of what people CAN do with it is "Super Jumping" which is the climb SWEP rolling followed by Bhopping, or "Climb SWEP flying" Which is an abuse using ceilings with the item. Closing Statement: I have spent many hours practicing and honing skills with Climb SWEP and think it is an overall positive for the server to provide uniqueness to roles, and a new way of enjoying the servers gameplay. I understand this is a significant change but I implore you to think of the unique capabilities and enjoyment that it can bring to the server. I am happy to explain and go more in depth about this with anyone who asks! 1
GRAYOUT Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 +1 this is a epic idea TC Tup, Improcco Company Clanky, Armand Isard, TC Dogma, Padme Amidala, Null - 6 Kom'rk , N-10 Jaing, Admiral Tarkin, Null Lead Ordo, Commander Bardan Jusik, Jedi Master Bardan Jusik, Jedi Council Member Bardan Jusik, Branch Overseer Kit Fisto, Branch Overseer Quinlan Vos, Master of the Order Mace Windu, Battalion Overseer Aayla Secura, Dash 29, 104th REGL Mortar Current: Wolfpack Lead Comet
Posted December 23, 2024 +1 this is a epic idea TC Tup, Improcco Company Clanky, Armand Isard, TC Dogma, Padme Amidala, Null - 6 Kom'rk , N-10 Jaing, Admiral Tarkin, Null Lead Ordo, Commander Bardan Jusik, Jedi Master Bardan Jusik, Jedi Council Member Bardan Jusik, Branch Overseer Kit Fisto, Branch Overseer Quinlan Vos, Master of the Order Mace Windu, Battalion Overseer Aayla Secura, Dash 29, 104th REGL Mortar Current: Wolfpack Lead Comet
Art Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 +1 I think an aspect to skip using admins to tp places would be nice
BROPDROP Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 +1 even though I hate climb swep bc how much practice it requires it would be cool to have Current: Nothing Former: GCO SUPL Fireball, Improcco REGL Nye, BCMD Gree, Meena Tills, Null-5 Prudii, 41st Padawan Caleb Dume, Delta RC-1140 Fixer, Delta RC-1138 Boss, RC-1262 Scorch
Posted December 23, 2024 +1 even though I hate climb swep bc how much practice it requires it would be cool to have Current: Nothing Former: GCO SUPL Fireball, Improcco REGL Nye, BCMD Gree, Meena Tills, Null-5 Prudii, 41st Padawan Caleb Dume, Delta RC-1140 Fixer, Delta RC-1138 Boss, RC-1262 Scorch
Stryker Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 +1 would be nice to climb things like a normal person
Tetra Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 +1. This is definitely something that could benefit a lot of people. Former Cin Drallig x2 | Former Serra Keto x2 | Former Branch Overseer x2 | Former Mace Windu Forever 41st Tetra
Posted December 23, 2024 +1. This is definitely something that could benefit a lot of people. Former Cin Drallig x2 | Former Serra Keto x2 | Former Branch Overseer x2 | Former Mace Windu Forever 41st Tetra
Marvel Posted December 23, 2024 Posted December 23, 2024 This has been suggested many times in the past and has been denied every single time almost always for performance issues. While I think it could add a lot to the server in terms of gameplay and what not combining it with our already massive amount of addons that cause significant performance issues as is will only make it worse. I feel like this is a suggestion that would probably require a sacrifice and I don’t think there’s anything worth giving up for climb swep. We’d be looking at trading things like WiltOs or LVS which is not worth just so some select jobs can climb a wall. -1 if that’s still the case but if I’m wrong and something has changed then that’s a W! I’ve just seen this suggestion too many times now I see it in my sleep. 1
Posted December 23, 2024 This has been suggested many times in the past and has been denied every single time almost always for performance issues. While I think it could add a lot to the server in terms of gameplay and what not combining it with our already massive amount of addons that cause significant performance issues as is will only make it worse. I feel like this is a suggestion that would probably require a sacrifice and I don’t think there’s anything worth giving up for climb swep. We’d be looking at trading things like WiltOs or LVS which is not worth just so some select jobs can climb a wall. -1 if that’s still the case but if I’m wrong and something has changed then that’s a W! I’ve just seen this suggestion too many times now I see it in my sleep. 1
Conrad Posted December 24, 2024 Posted December 24, 2024 1 hour ago, Marvel said: This has been suggested many times in the past and has been denied every single time almost always for performance issues. Well I would agree, Our current development team has found a low performance alternative for med revivies, something that used to crash the server when implemented long ago. I would like to see if they can cook up a custom add on for us that does what the climb swep does. I would not like to see the linked add on added to the server. I think something that does the same job custom made by our dev team could be successful however. 1 C
Posted December 24, 2024 1 hour ago, Marvel said: This has been suggested many times in the past and has been denied every single time almost always for performance issues. Well I would agree, Our current development team has found a low performance alternative for med revivies, something that used to crash the server when implemented long ago. I would like to see if they can cook up a custom add on for us that does what the climb swep does. I would not like to see the linked add on added to the server. I think something that does the same job custom made by our dev team could be successful however. 1 C
Marvel Posted December 24, 2024 Posted December 24, 2024 51 minutes ago, Conrad said: Well I would agree, Our current development team has found a low performance alternative for med revivies, something that used to crash the server when implemented long ago. I would like to see if they can cook up a custom add on for us that does what the climb swep does. I would not like to see the linked add on added to the server. I think something that does the same job custom made by our dev team could be successful however. Yeah I’m all for any alternatives as well. Maybe a much simpler climbing add on could be made. Current dev team is cooking rn so it may be possible. The suggested add on is a no go regardless from me. 1
Posted December 24, 2024 51 minutes ago, Conrad said: Well I would agree, Our current development team has found a low performance alternative for med revivies, something that used to crash the server when implemented long ago. I would like to see if they can cook up a custom add on for us that does what the climb swep does. I would not like to see the linked add on added to the server. I think something that does the same job custom made by our dev team could be successful however. Yeah I’m all for any alternatives as well. Maybe a much simpler climbing add on could be made. Current dev team is cooking rn so it may be possible. The suggested add on is a no go regardless from me. 1
Unclegennybee Posted December 24, 2024 Posted December 24, 2024 +1 Current: Rancor Former: Veteran Admin | 501st CMD | 332nd Vaughn | 332nd Officer Sterling | TC Boomer | TC Hardcase | Diplomatic Services | CG CMD | Cin Drallig | TGL Serra Keto | Green Company | Improcco Fi | Improcco Lead CMD Gett | Alpha 26 "Maze"
Posted December 24, 2024 +1 Current: Rancor Former: Veteran Admin | 501st CMD | 332nd Vaughn | 332nd Officer Sterling | TC Boomer | TC Hardcase | Diplomatic Services | CG CMD | Cin Drallig | TGL Serra Keto | Green Company | Improcco Fi | Improcco Lead CMD Gett | Alpha 26 "Maze"
SquishyFishyy Posted December 24, 2024 Posted December 24, 2024 +1 As long as its not included in tryouts thats fine. Every server i've played on that had the climb swep made it a tryout requirement for the most basic shit and actually skill diffed a ton of new people into getting into bare bones battalions like 501st or 41st. (BUNCHA RANKS AND NAMES HERE)
Posted December 24, 2024 +1 As long as its not included in tryouts thats fine. Every server i've played on that had the climb swep made it a tryout requirement for the most basic shit and actually skill diffed a ton of new people into getting into bare bones battalions like 501st or 41st. (BUNCHA RANKS AND NAMES HERE)
Maxx Posted December 24, 2024 Posted December 24, 2024 +1 Quote "Continue to learn and Grow." - 41st Commander Tetra 2023 Current: MIA Ex: Coruscant Guard Tracker Lead Hound | Diplomatic Service Officer Thorn | Diplomatic Service Officer Jek | Improcco Company Lead Gett | Improcco Company Nye | Green Company Officer Draa
Posted December 24, 2024 +1 Quote "Continue to learn and Grow." - 41st Commander Tetra 2023 Current: MIA Ex: Coruscant Guard Tracker Lead Hound | Diplomatic Service Officer Thorn | Diplomatic Service Officer Jek | Improcco Company Lead Gett | Improcco Company Nye | Green Company Officer Draa
Kaner Posted December 24, 2024 Posted December 24, 2024 I hardcore feel this is gonna get denied because climb sweps fundamentally are laggy due to the way that GMOD calculates physics but if they can find a way to design it in a way that doesn't break the server then +1 Yeah...
Posted December 24, 2024 I hardcore feel this is gonna get denied because climb sweps fundamentally are laggy due to the way that GMOD calculates physics but if they can find a way to design it in a way that doesn't break the server then +1 Yeah...
Tackle1 Posted December 25, 2024 Posted December 25, 2024 +1, climb sweps are so peak Former: Sentinel Manager | Commander Gree | PVT to CMD | Green Company Lead | Faie | Cooker | Tenn
Posted December 25, 2024 +1, climb sweps are so peak Former: Sentinel Manager | Commander Gree | PVT to CMD | Green Company Lead | Faie | Cooker | Tenn
Director WarMaster Posted December 27, 2024 Director Director Posted December 27, 2024 +1 creative love to see it. Current: Director || Null 5 LT Prudii Skirata Former: KU XO Charger || Etain Tur-Mukan || TKL Hound || 2ndAC XO Bear || 2ndAC CMD WarMaster || 212th BCMD Cody || TC Lead MAJ Appo || ATK RCMD WarMaster || !st Mayor|| GMD ||TRD|| Master of the Order Mace Windu || Grand Master of the order Yoda || Marshal Commander || DSL Stone || CG CMD WarMaster || CG BCMD Fox || SPEC RCMD WarMaster
Director Director Posted December 27, 2024 +1 creative love to see it. Current: Director || Null 5 LT Prudii Skirata Former: KU XO Charger || Etain Tur-Mukan || TKL Hound || 2ndAC XO Bear || 2ndAC CMD WarMaster || 212th BCMD Cody || TC Lead MAJ Appo || ATK RCMD WarMaster || !st Mayor|| GMD ||TRD|| Master of the Order Mace Windu || Grand Master of the order Yoda || Marshal Commander || DSL Stone || CG CMD WarMaster || CG BCMD Fox || SPEC RCMD WarMaster
Stockings Posted January 13, 2025 Posted January 13, 2025 +1 Love Climb swep, been playing gmod for a long time and always wanted us to add it to the server, but it's been denied plenty of times People Who Put Their Former Ranks In Their Signature Are Idiots! Community Liaison - Discord Boo Radley#2719
Posted January 13, 2025 +1 Love Climb swep, been playing gmod for a long time and always wanted us to add it to the server, but it's been denied plenty of times People Who Put Their Former Ranks In Their Signature Are Idiots! Community Liaison - Discord Boo Radley#2719
BUB Posted January 19, 2025 Posted January 19, 2025 This suggestion has been moved to REVIEW PHASE. (Suggestions that have been accepted by the community vote or through Founder approval and a concept is being created by the development team) Former: Development Coordinator | Rancor BCMD Colt/Blitz | Alpha 17 | Alpha 98 Nate | Alpha 74 Stec | Navy RI CPO | Senior Admin | TRO | Guild LT | Trauma Designated as Alpha-64
Posted January 19, 2025 This suggestion has been moved to REVIEW PHASE. (Suggestions that have been accepted by the community vote or through Founder approval and a concept is being created by the development team) Former: Development Coordinator | Rancor BCMD Colt/Blitz | Alpha 17 | Alpha 98 Nate | Alpha 74 Stec | Navy RI CPO | Senior Admin | TRO | Guild LT | Trauma Designated as Alpha-64
Jayarr Posted January 19, 2025 Posted January 19, 2025 you will see me in my grave before we add this janky unoptimized lag creating bad SWEP 1 1
Posted January 19, 2025 you will see me in my grave before we add this janky unoptimized lag creating bad SWEP 1 1
Jayarr Posted January 19, 2025 Posted January 19, 2025 Unfortunately, this suggestion has been DENIED. If the same suggestion is submitted again within 60 DAYS of this post it will be automatically denied. // LOCKED // MOVED TO [CW] SERVER SUGGESTIONS - DENIED Quote Denial reasons: (These are some reasons that your suggestion might get denied for.) Not providing sufficient information. Ex: Just linking the workshop and not giving us the actual model path you want to use. The addon's size is way too big compared to its content(s). Ex: 35mb for one model. Lack of feedback. Ex: Post has been up for 3 weeks and only received 1-10 votes. Majority negative feedback. Bad optimization and/or causes bad performance on the server. Having multiple suggestions within one thread. Bothering leadership/development team regarding a suggestion. Suggesting a previously denied suggestion within 60 days of denial.
Posted January 19, 2025 Unfortunately, this suggestion has been DENIED. If the same suggestion is submitted again within 60 DAYS of this post it will be automatically denied. // LOCKED // MOVED TO [CW] SERVER SUGGESTIONS - DENIED Quote Denial reasons: (These are some reasons that your suggestion might get denied for.) Not providing sufficient information. Ex: Just linking the workshop and not giving us the actual model path you want to use. The addon's size is way too big compared to its content(s). Ex: 35mb for one model. Lack of feedback. Ex: Post has been up for 3 weeks and only received 1-10 votes. Majority negative feedback. Bad optimization and/or causes bad performance on the server. Having multiple suggestions within one thread. Bothering leadership/development team regarding a suggestion. Suggesting a previously denied suggestion within 60 days of denial.
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