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Name: Kaiser RP Rank: 212th BCMD Suggestion: Bring back Foxtrot to 212th Attack Battalion as a 3rd subunit Implementation: For those of you looking to instantly -1 this suggestion based on negative experiences, I implore you to read the entire thing. After talks with High Staff/Development, the return of this squad is very possible if done correctly. There is no official rule preventing the addition of a 3rd subunit, and no rule on removing the whitelists suggested. This will be a major shift for the 212th as a whole, and as a battalion that has had the honor of success in the past year, I believe we’re the perfect candidates to test run an additional group. We would be removing 4 whitelists to make room for Gregor and the 3 additional Foxtrot members. In practical terms, we would work with former Foxtrot members and current SOBDE members that have already stepped forward to offer assistance with dupes and tryouts. With myself overseeing the first runs, we would invite SOBDE members to watch how we do tryouts which would affirm that RC standards would be met. Additionally, when 212th previously had Foxtrot, we held a very high standard of RP and have every intention to bring it back. SOBDE has a very high standard of RP as well, which gives us a great example to learn from. In turn, with one of our subunits acting more seriously, this will 100% rub off on our other subunits, in turn rubbing off on the battalion, in turn rubbing off on the server. Lore: Foxtrot Group was a commando squad led by CC-5576-39 Captain Gregor serving under Marshal Commander Cody and General Obi-Wan Kenobi. While it operated under the Special Operations Brigade, it was attached to the 212th Attack Battalion. Captain Gregor has been depicted multiple times in Star Wars media, giving merit to Foxtrot having the ability to build lore on Synergy. Workshop Content if applicable: Needs development If you are asking to add or change a job, fill out the following if not, leave it out. Add or Change: Remove (Any job modification requires all this information) Job: 2ndAC Commander Barlex, 212th Officer, Ghost Company Heavy Trooper, Ghost Company Support Trooper Slots: N/A Description: N/A Model: N/A Weapons: N/A _______________________________________________________________ Add or Change: Add Job: Foxtrot Lead Gregor Slots: 1 Description: Foxtrot Group Lead Model: models/jayarr/commando/foxtrot/gregor.mdl Weapons: cc2018_dc15p, rw_sw_dc17m, rw_sw_dc17m_launcher, rw_sw_dc17m_shotgun, rw_sw_dc17m_sniper ___________________________________________________________________ Add or Change: Add Job: Foxtrot RC EOD Slots: 1 Description: Foxtrot Group EOD Model:models/jayarr/commando/foxtrot/eod.mdl Weapons: cc2018_dc15p, rw_sw_dc17m, rw_sw_dc17m_launcher (ability to drop armor) ___________________________________________________________________ Add or Change: Add Job: Foxtrot RC MED Slots: 1 Description: Foxtrot Group Medic Model: models/jayarr/commando/foxtrot/tech.mdl Weapons: cc2018_dc15p, rw_sw_dc17m, rw_sw_dc17m_shotgun, weapon_bactakit, rw_sw_nade_bacta (3), darky_syringe (3) ____________________________________________________________________ Add or Change: Add Job: Foxtrot RC ARF Slots: 1 Description: Foxtrot Group Sniper Model: models/jayarr/commando/foxtrot/mark.mdl Weapons: cc2018_dc15p, rw_sw_dc17m, rw_sw_dc17m_sniper _____________________________________________________________________ Other: This is the meat and potatoes of this suggestion. After talks from High Staff/developers, members of current SOBDE, and former Foxtrot members, I am 100% confident 212th can bring back this unit and support it in the right way. To start with the unit, we would like to include SOBDE in the initial process in setting up the tryouts. We want to make sure that the standard for RC squads is being held up overall and our Foxtrot members are of a higher caliber than any other trooper in 212th. The past 3 Barlex’s did NOT like being on the actual job, and would often prefer to sit on 2ndAC SUP if they have their training due to the low benefits of the Barlex whitelist. The 212th Officer whitelist isn’t used at all. The GC whitelists we would remove would change GC to a strictly stealth recon unit rather than Spec Ops. We would open up more 212th GC ARF spots to compensate along with 1 GC ARC slot. I look forward to answering any questions people have in the comments, and reassuring anyone with doubts that we can handle this. Even with myself only being on the server for a year, I know the server has changed significantly. Now is the time to bring back this once successful unit to the former glory of Foxtrot.

-1 Inosuke said it best

A classic example of the circle of life. Nothing is every truly removed forever lol.

Something is in the works :) I want to make sure everything that could possibly go wrong (And that did go wrong in every past iteration of BVB) doesn't happen or at least is avoided as best as possible before attempting to bring back BVB. Alongside working on trying to make BVB feel fresh and not just simply a PVP tournament it may be a little bit but stay tuned!

-1. i don't need to see you be blacklisted from 2 regiments.

So let me just start with a +1 so anyone scrolling through this to count can just figure it out. Anywhoo, I've been under countless Cody's and only 212th or SOBDE at any given time, so I can see both sides of this. I've read through most of this post, and I have seen why people do not want to see Foxtrot with 212th, but most if not all of the counter points have already been addressed by Kaiser, Finn, or another member of the community. When I was in SOBDE, this was a little over a year ago from what I understand when Void was Boss and eventually BCMD. I was grey RC the entire time while in SOBDE, and eventually I was "Foxtrot" which at the time was just grey RC with orange color and all four members were all supposed to be specialized in some capacity. When you were in Foxtrot, you were not anything special, and you were again stated, glorified grey RC. We had no Gregor, and when Sarge tried to get the whitelist he wasn't seen fit for the role and so we never got an official leader of any kind. Foxtrot never inherently did anything special at any point, you had the same qualifications, ranking, and authority as any given grey RC. There was no system where if you were foxtrot, you had more right to a tryout than anyone else, or any system where if you went into Foxtrot Tech, like myself, you would have greater priority for a role such as Fixer. Even the medical trooper of the squad, which wasn't a squad as we had multiple people with the same specialization at one given time, didn't ever get a medkit other than a single time I can recall which was for an event server deployment despite us asking every single event to have a medkit from the GM. Overall, it was just something you could be in SOBDE with no rhyme or reason. From what I observed, in order to rise rank and get to the position of Gregor, you would have to join another subunit, become squad lead, then leave to Gregor which was just a hot mess. Now as for my 212th experience when we did have Foxtrot with Shockpoint among others, I see nothing wrong with adding it as 212th is offering to give up whitelists, something SOBDE would not do as stated by Slak a few posts above me when they applied to do so under Iceman's term but was left denied by Marvel. As far as Foxtrot went from my perspective, it worked and functioned fine. I see some people talk about how 212th can't uphold the "SOBDE Standard" which was never a problem when Foxtrot was in 212th. Seeing it from both sides of the spectrum in this conversation, I doubt that with the right people chosen, Foxtrot would be fine coming into 212th. Regarding that, again, I believe that as long as you don't pick out the children that hardly reach the goal of "semi-serious" rp, Foxtrot can be held to the same standard. After coming back to the server about a week ago, I'm not sure what standard Super is referring to either, as I don't see much has changed since the last time I was in SOBDE. Obviously your average 212th member shouldn't be joining, which I whole-heartedly agree with, but Finn, Kaiser, among maybe one other I believe have the correct judgement to at least see who could be considered for the role of being held to a "higher standard." Ever since SOBDE got battalioned, they have lacked a higher standard. All in all, while I have seen claims and counterpoints from both sides, I don't see how adding this can negatively impact the server. +1. Idc how much flak I catch for this post.

+1 can we get @Bro to do the play by play pls

This is all stuff y’all can do now 💀

+1 HUGE +1 I was 212th back when we had foxtrot in 212th and loved having them around I wanted to be one but never got arround to it before SOBDE took them. BRING BACK FOXTROT

This Is An Awful Idea -1