Improved Shield mechanics (Approved by Fox)

[CheesedGod]

Name: CheesedGod / Stone

RP Rank: MAJ

Suggestion: allow shield user to shoot 

Implementation: make the current deployable shield more usable in combat by allowing the user to shoot with a dc17 pistol or Dc15a . example when the shield is held you hold the shield as normal but once you aim in you lower the shield to allow you to shoot like in R6 siege this giving you the ability to help more in combat but with the disadvantage of making yourself more vulnerable to fire while also still being useful as a shield for the advancing force. [Also note we do not want to remove or replace the ability to place the shield down]

Lore: as seen in the Clone wars show on ringo vinda with dooms unit they utilized a dc15a and shield to protect the squads advance while still contributing with firepower.

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Job: Mainly Diplomatic services But it would also go for the other characters like tup with the same shields

Weapons: deployable_shield

Other: Also the shield needs to be fixed once held because its still slanted about 45 degrees towards the user allowing anyone to shoot their upper body bypassing the shield (Current issue with the shields)

Picture of Dooms unit using the shield below

https://imgur.com/a/w5KhSaN

Edited March 25, 2025 by CheesedGod
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[CheesedGod 31]

Name: CheesedGod / Stone

RP Rank: MAJ

Suggestion: allow shield user to shoot 

Implementation: make the current deployable shield more usable in combat by allowing the user to shoot with a dc17 pistol or Dc15a . example when the shield is held you hold the shield as normal but once you aim in you lower the shield to allow you to shoot like in R6 siege this giving you the ability to help more in combat but with the disadvantage of making yourself more vulnerable to fire while also still being useful as a shield for the advancing force. [Also note we do not want to remove or replace the ability to place the shield down]

Lore: as seen in the Clone wars show on ringo vinda with dooms unit they utilized a dc15a and shield to protect the squads advance while still contributing with firepower.

Workshop content if applicable:
REQUIRES DEVELOPMENT (i haven't found anything on the workshop that fits the bill but there more than likely is one out there)

If you are asking to add or change a job, fill out the following if not, leave it out.

Add or Change:
(Any job modification requires all this information)

Job: Mainly Diplomatic services But it would also go for the other characters like tup with the same shields

Weapons: deployable_shield

Other: Also the shield needs to be fixed once held because its still slanted about 45 degrees towards the user allowing anyone to shoot their upper body bypassing the shield (Current issue with the shields)

Picture of Dooms unit using the shield below

https://imgur.com/a/w5KhSaN

Edited March 25, 2025 by CheesedGod
Found a picture

[Charles]

+1

[Charles 178]

+1

[Flixytip]

+1 No bias 

[Flixytip 5]

+1 No bias 

[JaredT]

+1 can we fix the current shield first tho because holding it is still bugged

[JaredT 6]

+1 can we fix the current shield first tho because holding it is still bugged

[Wheezy]

+1 TYPE SHIT

[Wheezy 80]

+1 TYPE SHIT

[Lively]

+1
Have a feeling this got nerfed in season nine

[Lively 89]

+1
Have a feeling this got nerfed in season nine

[CheesedGod]

8 hours ago, Lively said:

+1
Have a feeling this got nerfed in season nine

Dude i stopped playing after year 6 or 7 so idk lmao

[CheesedGod 31]

8 hours ago, Lively said:

+1
Have a feeling this got nerfed in season nine

Dude i stopped playing after year 6 or 7 so idk lmao

[bulletyt906]

+1 I guess [ cool] 

[bulletyt906 31]

+1 I guess [ cool] 

[BROPDROP]

I am going to assume you meant let them use a dc-15s bc that long ass a would not be stable one handed 😂. +1 I like this idea of allowing the shield troops to shoot

[BROPDROP 395]

I am going to assume you meant let them use a dc-15s bc that long ass a would not be stable one handed 😂. +1 I like this idea of allowing the shield troops to shoot

[Marvel]

I think this feature should be separate from the deployable shield personally. A separate shield that allows the use of weapons then the deployable one. That way there is also variety and it isn’t too stronk.

Edited March 26, 2025 by Marvel

[Marvel 3,308]

I think this feature should be separate from the deployable shield personally. A separate shield that allows the use of weapons then the deployable one. That way there is also variety and it isn’t too stronk.

Edited March 26, 2025 by Marvel

[CheesedGod]

3 hours ago, Marvel said:

I think this feature should be separate from the deployable shield personally. A separate shield that allows the use of weapons then the deployable one. That way there is also variety and it isn’t too stronk.

i see your point. although having separate shields isnt really the best idea either since then if DS use their shields we have to have 2 sweps instead of it being centralized in one swep. also with the shield being strong i agree it is very strong when deployed the problem is when youre holding it its not that great in pvp or pve (especially now that the animations are broken)

[CheesedGod 31]

3 hours ago, Marvel said:

I think this feature should be separate from the deployable shield personally. A separate shield that allows the use of weapons then the deployable one. That way there is also variety and it isn’t too stronk.

i see your point. although having separate shields isnt really the best idea either since then if DS use their shields we have to have 2 sweps instead of it being centralized in one swep. also with the shield being strong i agree it is very strong when deployed the problem is when youre holding it its not that great in pvp or pve (especially now that the animations are broken)

[Marvel]

6 minutes ago, CheesedGod said:

i see your point. although having separate shields isnt really the best idea either since then if DS use their shields we have to have 2 sweps instead of it being centralized in one swep. also with the shield being strong i agree it is very strong when deployed the problem is when youre holding it its not that great in pvp or pve (especially now that the animations are broken)

I meant more or less picking and choosing which jobs get which shield not having access to both. So groups that are more defensive would probably have the deployable shield and an offensive group would have the smaller one that allows the use of your blaster. Or different jobs having different shields like in DS your medic has deployable and your heavy has the other one for example.

[Marvel 3,308]

6 minutes ago, CheesedGod said:

i see your point. although having separate shields isnt really the best idea either since then if DS use their shields we have to have 2 sweps instead of it being centralized in one swep. also with the shield being strong i agree it is very strong when deployed the problem is when youre holding it its not that great in pvp or pve (especially now that the animations are broken)

I meant more or less picking and choosing which jobs get which shield not having access to both. So groups that are more defensive would probably have the deployable shield and an offensive group would have the smaller one that allows the use of your blaster. Or different jobs having different shields like in DS your medic has deployable and your heavy has the other one for example.

[CheesedGod]

15 minutes ago, Marvel said:

I meant more or less picking and choosing which jobs get which shield not having access to both. So groups that are more defensive would probably have the deployable shield and an offensive group would have the smaller one that allows the use of your blaster. Or different jobs having different shields like in DS your medic has deployable and your heavy has the other one for example.

Yea thats fair enough. if it does get accepted and worked on i hope they just make it the 1 shield because it is just generally better for people with diverse playstyles. i could definitely live with it being 2 shields though

[CheesedGod 31]

15 minutes ago, Marvel said:

I meant more or less picking and choosing which jobs get which shield not having access to both. So groups that are more defensive would probably have the deployable shield and an offensive group would have the smaller one that allows the use of your blaster. Or different jobs having different shields like in DS your medic has deployable and your heavy has the other one for example.

Yea thats fair enough. if it does get accepted and worked on i hope they just make it the 1 shield because it is just generally better for people with diverse playstyles. i could definitely live with it being 2 shields though

[Bane]

+1, especially if its a SWEP.

[Bane 232]

+1, especially if its a SWEP.

[Upset Saint]

+1 I like @Marvel idea of more shields so more battalions could use them like Hill Company for defense not just DS (but I understand that might not be possible)

[Upset Saint 91]

+1 I like @Marvel idea of more shields so more battalions could use them like Hill Company for defense not just DS (but I understand that might not be possible)

[Conrad]

+1, as long as you can't run around with a shield and a z6 out. Should just be a simple, poor performance gun (15s/dc-17 pistol) to balance a shield that blocks shots for you.

[Conrad 2,465]

+1, as long as you can't run around with a shield and a z6 out. Should just be a simple, poor performance gun (15s/dc-17 pistol) to balance a shield that blocks shots for you.

[Noshow]

+1 Agree with Conrad on Pistols/DC-15s only but I think this would be perfect for DS as its quite hard to protect and fight as 1 person protecting a VIP

[Noshow 14]

+1 Agree with Conrad on Pistols/DC-15s only but I think this would be perfect for DS as its quite hard to protect and fight as 1 person protecting a VIP

[WickedMpulse]

+1

[WickedMpulse 9]

+1

[LoFi]

+1 shields are my literal children got fix these

[LoFi 41]

+1 shields are my literal children got fix these

[Fars]

+1 A better shield is a greater shield, would also make 'em even better for defensive holding of brig and what not.

Edited March 30, 2025 by Fars

[Fars 37]

+1 A better shield is a greater shield, would also make 'em even better for defensive holding of brig and what not.

Edited March 30, 2025 by Fars

[BUB]

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Denial reason:

This ruins the core concept of the shield, and it would just cause more issues of people getting hit through the shield.

 

Edited April 13, 2025 by BUB

[BUB 223]

Unfortunately, this suggestion has been DENIED.

If the same suggestion is submitted again within 60 DAYS of this post it will be automatically denied.

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Denial reason:

This ruins the core concept of the shield, and it would just cause more issues of people getting hit through the shield.

 

Edited April 13, 2025 by BUB