21st GM & SO Westar-M5s

[Qal]

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Name: 21stNC Commander Bacara

RP Rank: Battalion Commander

Suggestion: All Galactic Marine & Special Operations Jobs Receiving a Westar-M5 Blaster Rifle

Implementation: Add Westar-M5 Blaster Rifles to Galactic Marine & Special Operations Jobs.

Lore: “Equipment
Specialized Armor
Galactic Marines wore special body armor with maroon or white coloration — and a backplate. They were usually armed with DC-15A blaster rifles, but were also seen equipped with WESTAR-M5 blaster rifles. The Marines were distinguished by their unique visor gear: synthmesh designed to keep out various hazards such as snow, sand, airborne fungus, and ash.” https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Galactic_Marines

Workshop content if applicable: N/A
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Add or Change:
(Any job modification requires all this information)

Job: [ALL Jobs with  “Galactic Marine” & "Special Operations" in the Names]

Slots: [Keep as they were]

Description: [Keep as they were]

Model: [Keep as they were]
(Provide the model string if on server Ex. models/player/synergy/cblake/ls_squad/ls_trp/lstrp.mdl (Get this from the Q menu)

Weapons: ADD: Westar-M5: rw_sw_westarm5                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 (If you want a modfication to a weapon/saber you must put the weapon string in the suggestion. Ex. tfa_e5 (Get this from the Q menu) 

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Edited February 11, 2020 by Qal
Added SO to the suggestion.

[PUCK]

+1 This is slight forward. The Westar is the bread and butter of the Galactic Marines, and shouldn’t been taken off them in the first place. The equivalent is the Shield For Dooms’s Units. 

[Mav]

+1

This is absolutely my main complaint with update as its a Lore weapon that we dont even have lol, I'll be find loosing my lore sniper on jet if I can get my Westar and complete my Being of a MARINE.

Edited February 9, 2020 by Twelfths

[Gene_Starwind]

+1 Lore duh

[Akula]

+1
linked to Lore, no question it's a needed addition

[RealNickels]

+1 Im easily infulenced by others

[Bitter]

+1

The Marines feel very naked and almost unneeded as this weapon really sets them apart.

[TheCyan]

+1 Obviously.

 

1) It's super clearly stated in lore that this was the load out, and should definitely be implemented.

2) Adding a Westar-m5 is creating a unique identity for Galactic Marines that sets them apart from other battalions. It also perfectly compliments how a Galatic Marine would act. Precise, accurate, and deadly.

[Gadget]

I dont know what a DC anything is now. .

 

I've used the WESTAR too much...

Please help...

Give a GM a WESTAR today!

 

+1 it's a no brainer 

[Alec]

-1 Everyone else has the exact same loadouts, you should too

[Rohan]

+1

[Dennis]

15 hours ago, Puck said:

Dooms’s Units

Dooms Unit* 

the ‘s is not needed as it could have been left alone just as Dooms, the s showing multiple and ownership as it’s Dooms Unit. 
 

but overall +1

[Timmy]

+1 There needs to be a reason to join the GM instead of the SO with their cloaks.

[Austistic]

1 hour ago, Alec said:

-1 Everyone else has the exact same loadouts, you should too

Nobody had a problem with 21st having the Westar before (as it is lore based), so what is the issue now?

[PUCK]

1 hour ago, Alec said:

-1 Everyone else has the exact same loadouts, you should too

Technically that’s not entirely correct as some battalions have lore backed special equipped like DU. All we are asking is to give back ours, which isn’t entirely just our battalion’s exclusive weapon in the first place, as ARC uses them too.

-PUCK

Edited February 10, 2020 by Puck

[Crimson]

+1

[Marvel]

1 hour ago, Dennis said:

Dooms Unit* 

Pretty sure it’s Doom’s Unit* lmao

+1 

[Alec]

1 hour ago, Austistic said:

Nobody had a problem with 21st having the Westar before (as it is lore based), so what is the issue now?

Correct me if im wrong, but wasnt it their battalion buff, which of were all removed?

 

1 hour ago, Puck said:

Technically that’s not entirely correct as some battalions have lore backed special equipped like DU. All we are asking is to give back ours, which isn’t entirely just our battalion’s exclusive weapon in the first place, as ARC uses them too.

-PUCK

Imo if stuff is gonna be "balanced" it should be balanced on all fronts, so even DU should be balanced like others

[Gadget]

8 minutes ago, Alec said:

Correct me if im wrong, but wasnt it their battalion buff, which of were all removed?

 

Imo if stuff is gonna be "balanced" it should be balanced on all fronts.

As bbattalion buffs go it was alright. We arent asking for the 70 damage monster we had before. We are actually asking for something the has been forgotten about recently. 

 

Fucking Lore.

 

We were equipped with them. We didnt have ARC troopers. The clone minigun was added initially for GM assault (renamed heavy as of now but can change it). Out other batt bonuses are for TECh and EOD due to lore and cos we train it, boarding cos we were know for specialising in boarding in lore, and the armour drop, which has no lore but was nice. 

 

This next part isn't in relation to your quote.

 

I kinda don't understand the logic behind people saying how everyone is balanced and that is good. Everyone being the fucking same means there is almost no reason to be in different batts. Like as of now 212th and 501st are basically the same as 41st, 104th, and us to an extent. Rancor is left in its status as an "ARC" battalion (lore wise they are ARF with some ARC and trained ARCs linked with battalions, ARC where actually pretty are. I was told that by Joah once also). This is all job wise. Ignoring certain benefits of the batts that may still exist, such as preference with vehicles for 104th and 41st.

If you went to a shop and all they sold was the same flavoured gum youd kinda get sick of it. But if there were some calming mint, nice strawberry and tangy sour gum (just examples) youd much prefer it and keep going to that shop for gum.

Westar is lore

Chaingun is lore for GM and not really ARC (the bit of lore they have is for a quad blaster and Z6s in the cartoon show. NOT CLONE MINIGUNS.)

21st didnt have ARC troopers cos GMACTs (not lore name as it doesnt have one, just referred to as the 3 phase process) were basically pseudo ARC. Not as high of a level but pretty dam hard. Based upon Bacara's Commander ARC teaining which he passed early. 

 

I dont mind which way it goes too much but this is just getting (almost) ALL the details straight. Dont try and lecture us on our lore. We know it better. 

 

Rant over. Now gonna avoid forums for a week before I chew someone out or swear my way to a ban/ disciplinary action.

 

 

[Dragon]

Denied

Talked to @Qal about it