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"We're not renaming Shadow Company." -Yes you are. "everyone always get confused with "whats the point of shadow company they don't have their own jobs!" -It doesn't help when there are at max 2 active SC at one time, hence why me and Slak worked on an actual tryout to make it not a inactive mess "they only wanna listen to one person and be delusional and lunatic instead of actually seeing OUR issues in the battalion." -Aren't you only wanting to listen to one person rather than listening to all the feedback people are putting in? "With this new unit will come new armor (models) for 21st" -Have you contacted a modeler? Talked to anyone that deals with models? Last I heard (when I was still in the bat) we never got our models we were owed after winning BvB Season 2 "Jets Unit was actually seen in 3 episodes of the clone wars." -Yeah, that's called SO. That is what everyone calls Jet's Unit. "Jets Unit would Give the LORE Character Commander Jet his LORE Accuracy." -Okay? You want lore? Get a Commander Jet Job. Done. There's lore. "It would give others in Spec Ops as a whole something cool to look forward to." -This was the point of SC, what stops Jet's Unit from being just as dead? New models (that probably won't come in the first place) only attract people for so long, and I guarantee that they won't give Jet's Unit both Cloaks and an extra piece of equipment on top of branch loadouts. "You don't see what happens behind closed doors in the battalion" - Considering how previous members literally shut down a previous iteration of this idea, the fact that you waited for them to leave the battalion before posting the idea again is some shady shit "Therefor not all of you understand the struggles in SO and the Drama with SC." -Oh trust me, I know, and you should know it very well yourself. "I'm tired of being shitted on for anything I post. I guarantee if Oxen put up the suggestion that it would get more +1's than mine would." -Yeah, it would, cause people like and trust Oxen. "all I get out of it is just massive disrespect." -I swear, I hear this phrase every single time someone posts a thing and gets feedback on it they don't like. I wanna do a callback to a conversation me and you had back when you joined SO. We talked a lot about ARF and ARC, professionalism, that type of thing. But the main thing, was respect. There were two things I know for a fact I talked with you about, although it moreso applied to some NCOs at the time of the conversation. The first, is that you don't need to be an officer to get respect. Self explanatory. The second though, apparently not. The second is that respect is never deserved, never given, but always earned. Earn respect, and you'll get respect.

Looking through everyones input and ideas. Even though i still like to see some flame troopers, i think baron makes a valid point in there being a compromise. Just that there seems to not be those willing to do so. And what seems to be some petty arguements between the touchy subject of 21st. I do i have to agree with most and say how 21st does have the most subunits and models already to the battalion. I mean not even that long ago they even got default nova corp trooper models finally. I think asking for models is a bit much now. -1 to models +1 name change (But what do i know i barley play the server anymore)

I have two main issues with this suggestion. Issue one: 21st's currently has two sub-units that have models and jobs, Keller's Unit & Special Operations. This is the same amount other battalions have and have been allowed since the beginning of the server. The issue arises where you wish to take a sub-unit that has no model difference or job difference & replace it with a whole new set of models and jobs. This will put 21st at a point where they have 21st/GM | Special Operations | Keller's Unit | Jet's Unit, all separated out in different jobs. Keep in mind, 212th attempted to have Ghost Company added in and everyone also shit on that idea too. Issue two: Currently the biggest issue within 21st, as per discussion with High Command, including Marshal Commander @NobleHeoruwulf, Specialized Regimental Command (and Ex-21st Commander) @Gadget & even the new BCMD @Oxen, is that there is no unity within the battalion and the sub-units are very divided. By adding in another unit, we are pushing the unity of 21st and the cohesiveness of a battalion that is meant to be working together as one unit, further and further away to grow into a bigger issue for someone else to fix down the line. I personally cannot support this suggestion due to these reasons. -1.

Ah yes, the ol' secret weapon. I still remember when @Duck tried to do this to me the day I got Jaing lol

Jesus this is a cluster fuck. Play nice everyone and read things closely. I’ve read atleast 5 replies that held the same information. And if you’re going to argue, take it to DM’s or this shit won’t even be considered.

Either way, your just adding more jobs and more models to the server for no reason when you should just keep SC and not have Jets Unit. It's just another waste of a sub unit. I mean you guys complain SC has no meaning so what does Jets Unit make so different compared to SC. Also people who -1 are giving their opinion, not just because someone stated something and they all ban wagon that, we all just see the bigger picture here.

-1 for new jobs. Why not just make a request for the model so you can swap between it for desert combat, similar to how GM has desert and forest camo? Seems like it would be easier to implement and just have it as an internal thing.