41st Lore models on Reg jobs

[Neins]

Name: Neins

RP Rank: BCMD

Suggestion: Remove the Draa, Nemec, Fireball, and cooker jobs and put the models on the respected Green Company jobs and make them a model option to free up some whitelist space.

Implementation: take the models and put them on their regimental Whitelists as another model option

Lore: N/A

Workshop content if applicable: N/a
(If no workshop content, suggest a developer or put "Require Development")

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Job: Green Company ARC

Slots: N/a

Description: add the Draa model as a model option

Model: models/synergy_roleplay/41s/draa/draa.mdl
(Provide the model string if on server Ex. models/synergy_roleplay/trooper.mdl (Get this from the Q menu)

 

 

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Job: Green Company Support

Slots: N/a

Description: add the Fireball (if accepted) model as a model option

Model: suggestion pending
(Provide the model string if on server Ex. models/synergy_roleplay/trooper.mdl (Get this from the Q menu)

 

 

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Job: Green Company Field Medic

Slots: N/a

Description: add the Nemec (if accepted) model as a Model option

Model: suggestion pending
(Provide the model string if on server Ex. models/synergy_roleplay/trooper.mdl (Get this from the Q menu)

 

 

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Job: Green Company ARF

Slots: N/a

Description: add the cooker model as a Model option

Model: models/synergy_roleplay/41s/officer_trooper_green/officer_trooper_green.mdl
(Provide the model string if on server Ex. models/synergy_roleplay/trooper.mdl (Get this from the Q menu)

 

[Neins 70]

Name: Neins

RP Rank: BCMD

Suggestion: Remove the Draa, Nemec, Fireball, and cooker jobs and put the models on the respected Green Company jobs and make them a model option to free up some whitelist space.

Implementation: take the models and put them on their regimental Whitelists as another model option

Lore: N/A

Workshop content if applicable: N/a
(If no workshop content, suggest a developer or put "Require Development")

If you are asking to add or change a job, fill out the following if not, leave it out.

Add or Change: change
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Job: Green Company ARC

Slots: N/a

Description: add the Draa model as a model option

Model: models/synergy_roleplay/41s/draa/draa.mdl
(Provide the model string if on server Ex. models/synergy_roleplay/trooper.mdl (Get this from the Q menu)

 

 

Add or Change: change
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Job: Green Company Support

Slots: N/a

Description: add the Fireball (if accepted) model as a model option

Model: suggestion pending
(Provide the model string if on server Ex. models/synergy_roleplay/trooper.mdl (Get this from the Q menu)

 

 

Add or Change: change
(Any job modification requires all this information)

Job: Green Company Field Medic

Slots: N/a

Description: add the Nemec (if accepted) model as a Model option

Model: suggestion pending
(Provide the model string if on server Ex. models/synergy_roleplay/trooper.mdl (Get this from the Q menu)

 

 

Add or Change: change
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Job: Green Company ARF

Slots: N/a

Description: add the cooker model as a Model option

Model: models/synergy_roleplay/41s/officer_trooper_green/officer_trooper_green.mdl
(Provide the model string if on server Ex. models/synergy_roleplay/trooper.mdl (Get this from the Q menu)

 

[Conrad]

I don’t understand what you mean by “free up whitelist space”. There’s not a limit to how many whitelists you can have. Do you just want these models to be used by more people? Or would you just have the people who are on these characters being the only ones on them still, just without a whitelist?

[Conrad 2,465]

I don’t understand what you mean by “free up whitelist space”. There’s not a limit to how many whitelists you can have. Do you just want these models to be used by more people? Or would you just have the people who are on these characters being the only ones on them still, just without a whitelist?

[Neins]

2 minutes ago, Conrad said:

I don’t understand what you mean by “free up whitelist space”. There’s not a limit to how many whitelists you can have. Do you just want these models to be used by more people? Or would you just have the people who are on these characters being the only ones on them still, just without a whitelist?

They are going to be used by the characters that have the lore character, we currently have 20 whitelists, so we can use them for new ideas and classes

[Neins 70]

2 minutes ago, Conrad said:

I don’t understand what you mean by “free up whitelist space”. There’s not a limit to how many whitelists you can have. Do you just want these models to be used by more people? Or would you just have the people who are on these characters being the only ones on them still, just without a whitelist?

They are going to be used by the characters that have the lore character, we currently have 20 whitelists, so we can use them for new ideas and classes

[Conrad]

4 minutes ago, Neins said:

we currently have 20 whitelists

@Jayarr is there a limit to how many whitelists a battalion can have. Seems like a silly limitation, and this is just a kinda weird move to get around said limitation.

Edited March 24, 2025 by Conrad

[Conrad 2,465]

4 minutes ago, Neins said:

we currently have 20 whitelists

@Jayarr is there a limit to how many whitelists a battalion can have. Seems like a silly limitation, and this is just a kinda weird move to get around said limitation.

Edited March 24, 2025 by Conrad

[Jayarr]

4 minutes ago, Conrad said:

@Jayarr is there a limit to how many whitelists a battalion can have. Seems like a silly limitation, and this is just a kinda weird move to get around said limitation.

I prefer not going over the artificially set number of 20, but I’m still willing to do so if it’s of benefit to the battalion or server

[Jayarr 1,037]

4 minutes ago, Conrad said:

@Jayarr is there a limit to how many whitelists a battalion can have. Seems like a silly limitation, and this is just a kinda weird move to get around said limitation.

I prefer not going over the artificially set number of 20, but I’m still willing to do so if it’s of benefit to the battalion or server

[Conrad]

 

Just now, Jayarr said:

I prefer not going over the artificially set number of 20, but I’m still willing to do so if it’s of benefit to the battalion or server

Gonna -1 this. This just seems like you want to keep your lore characters but want more job slots. I feel like given what jayarr has said here you’ll be fine to add more as long as theirs a good reason for it, so just make sure you’re adding good shit!

[Conrad 2,465]

 

Just now, Jayarr said:

I prefer not going over the artificially set number of 20, but I’m still willing to do so if it’s of benefit to the battalion or server

Gonna -1 this. This just seems like you want to keep your lore characters but want more job slots. I feel like given what jayarr has said here you’ll be fine to add more as long as theirs a good reason for it, so just make sure you’re adding good shit!

[Unclegennybee]

2 minutes ago, Jayarr said:

I prefer not going over the artificially set number of 20, but I’m still willing to do so if it’s of benefit to the battalion or server

We understand the limit of 20 and we have plans to consolidate some of the lore characters onto another job to clear up some space!

[Unclegennybee 97]

2 minutes ago, Jayarr said:

I prefer not going over the artificially set number of 20, but I’m still willing to do so if it’s of benefit to the battalion or server

We understand the limit of 20 and we have plans to consolidate some of the lore characters onto another job to clear up some space!

[Obsidian]

+1, this is something that’s already been integrated into the battalion with the 41st HVY whitelist being used as the WL for GC HVYs as well. While there are downsides to it such as missing out on boosts that the WL would normally hold if it weren’t integrated into a WL pool so to speak, I do believe that it’s healthier for both the battalion and the server as a whole if we took this up as a standardization. You could genuinely condense most battalions WLs down by 25% or more with some limitations due to kits for specific branches, thus enabling every battalion to have their base kits while still holding the opportunity to come up with unique ideas for new, battalion specific classes, without passing the 20 WL limit that Jayarr mentioned due to it being ate up by WLs that can only be used by one person at a time. 

[Obsidian 18]

+1, this is something that’s already been integrated into the battalion with the 41st HVY whitelist being used as the WL for GC HVYs as well. While there are downsides to it such as missing out on boosts that the WL would normally hold if it weren’t integrated into a WL pool so to speak, I do believe that it’s healthier for both the battalion and the server as a whole if we took this up as a standardization. You could genuinely condense most battalions WLs down by 25% or more with some limitations due to kits for specific branches, thus enabling every battalion to have their base kits while still holding the opportunity to come up with unique ideas for new, battalion specific classes, without passing the 20 WL limit that Jayarr mentioned due to it being ate up by WLs that can only be used by one person at a time. 

[Berries]

+1

[Berries 8]

+1

[Beans]

+1

[Beans 54]

+1

[Lively]

+1
It could clear up some clutter on the Admin side of things when whitelisting 41st, just make sure to tell us which one to pick when we whitelist!

[Lively 89]

+1
It could clear up some clutter on the Admin side of things when whitelisting 41st, just make sure to tell us which one to pick when we whitelist!

[Marvel]

I just want to bring up one counter point to the suggestion that being if you condense these jobs these lore characters will forever have standard battalion jobs. You lose any and all ability to make these characters unique outside of a special name and model.

It’s been proven in the past that lore characters like that normally struggle to compete with lore characters with actual jobs. People normally rotate through them pretty fast. Just wanted to make sure yall understand that side effect in the long run.

I don’t wanna see a suggestion to reverse it in the future if it happens!

[Marvel 3,308]

I just want to bring up one counter point to the suggestion that being if you condense these jobs these lore characters will forever have standard battalion jobs. You lose any and all ability to make these characters unique outside of a special name and model.

It’s been proven in the past that lore characters like that normally struggle to compete with lore characters with actual jobs. People normally rotate through them pretty fast. Just wanted to make sure yall understand that side effect in the long run.

I don’t wanna see a suggestion to reverse it in the future if it happens!

[justuscloud5]

I really heavily disagree with this. If jayarr is willing to go over 20 I dont think this is the right move. Marvel is a hundred percent right named characters that operate as body groupers usually dont go nearly as well or hold the same weight as an actual named character with a whitelist, also generally the body grouper characters were for the shitty/lesser lore characters not almost every single one of them. This is a net negative for 41st overall I dont see any gain that you could feasibly get from this, If you have these characters removed and push a standardization model, you make things way less unique whcih the server is pushing for. As well when you go for these new whitelists that are replacing these ones you moved to bodygroupers you are banking on the fact that you will get those things in exchange later down the line which isnt very guaranteed. The 41st would be taking on a net negative in all honesty when it wouldnt make any positives in exchange, it seems Jayarr is willing to go past 20, and sacrificing whitelists banking on an equal exchange in the future. When you can more than likely keep the whitelists and have pretty decent gain in the future. 

 

 

-1

[justuscloud5 518]

I really heavily disagree with this. If jayarr is willing to go over 20 I dont think this is the right move. Marvel is a hundred percent right named characters that operate as body groupers usually dont go nearly as well or hold the same weight as an actual named character with a whitelist, also generally the body grouper characters were for the shitty/lesser lore characters not almost every single one of them. This is a net negative for 41st overall I dont see any gain that you could feasibly get from this, If you have these characters removed and push a standardization model, you make things way less unique whcih the server is pushing for. As well when you go for these new whitelists that are replacing these ones you moved to bodygroupers you are banking on the fact that you will get those things in exchange later down the line which isnt very guaranteed. The 41st would be taking on a net negative in all honesty when it wouldnt make any positives in exchange, it seems Jayarr is willing to go past 20, and sacrificing whitelists banking on an equal exchange in the future. When you can more than likely keep the whitelists and have pretty decent gain in the future. 

 

 

-1

[Charles]

What space is needed to be cleared up? How many whitelists do you have?

[Charles 178]

What space is needed to be cleared up? How many whitelists do you have?

[Neins]

2 minutes ago, Charles said:

What space is needed to be cleared up? How many whitelists do you have?

We have 20
 

 

 

 

Overall i do agree with a lot of points both ways, in this i think i want to void this suggestion, but we do have a few more WL ideas in the work so i hope this energy stays with those! 

[Neins 70]

2 minutes ago, Charles said:

What space is needed to be cleared up? How many whitelists do you have?

We have 20
 

 

 

 

Overall i do agree with a lot of points both ways, in this i think i want to void this suggestion, but we do have a few more WL ideas in the work so i hope this energy stays with those! 

[Mystic]

7 hours ago, Marvel said:

It’s been proven in the past that lore characters like that normally struggle to compete with lore characters with actual jobs. People normally rotate through them pretty fast. Just wanted to make sure yall understand that side effect in the long run.

my biggest regret in SO, never being able to make Spark special fr. 

[Mystic 1,496]

7 hours ago, Marvel said:

It’s been proven in the past that lore characters like that normally struggle to compete with lore characters with actual jobs. People normally rotate through them pretty fast. Just wanted to make sure yall understand that side effect in the long run.

my biggest regret in SO, never being able to make Spark special fr. 

[Mystic]

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[Mystic 1,496]

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