DC17M Buff

[Funnyman]

Name: Funnyman

RP Rank: CPT

Suggestion: Increase the damage of the DC17M by 3-5.

Implementation: Changing of Weapon stats

Lore: The DC17M was a step above the 15A and S of the base troopers

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Weapons: rw_sw_dc17m
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Other: The DC17M rifle variant is by far the worst part of the RC kit, despite being its poster child. We want to buff it to be on par with similar weapons on the server 

[Funnyman 203]

Name: Funnyman

RP Rank: CPT

Suggestion: Increase the damage of the DC17M by 3-5.

Implementation: Changing of Weapon stats

Lore: The DC17M was a step above the 15A and S of the base troopers

Workshop content if applicable: Requires development
(If no workshop content, suggest a developer or put "Require Development")

If you are asking to add or change a job, fill out the following if not, leave it out.

Weapons: rw_sw_dc17m
(If you want a modfication to a weapon/saber you must put the weapon string in the suggestion. Ex. tfa_e5 (Get this from the Q menu))

Other: The DC17M rifle variant is by far the worst part of the RC kit, despite being its poster child. We want to buff it to be on par with similar weapons on the server 

[Conrad]

How does it compare to the 15s/a right now? I thought it was already significantly better already?

Edited March 23, 2025 by Conrad

[Conrad 2,465]

How does it compare to the 15s/a right now? I thought it was already significantly better already?

Edited March 23, 2025 by Conrad

[Funnyman]

Compared to the 15A and S it is significantly better, however the current WESTAR buff put it leagues above the 17M, so this buff is more so to put it on par with its ARC competition

[Funnyman 203]

Compared to the 15A and S it is significantly better, however the current WESTAR buff put it leagues above the 17M, so this buff is more so to put it on par with its ARC competition

[Conrad]

-1

Your kits are already well rounded. I think it’s ok for the wester to outclass the dc-15m as your kits include sniper, shotgun, and gernade launcher, and the dc-15m already out classes most other kit weapons.  I think having the western be better makes sense since those kits aren’t as great. 

Edited March 23, 2025 by Conrad

[Conrad 2,465]

-1

Your kits are already well rounded. I think it’s ok for the wester to outclass the dc-15m as your kits include sniper, shotgun, and gernade launcher, and the dc-15m already out classes most other kit weapons.  I think having the western be better makes sense since those kits aren’t as great. 

Edited March 23, 2025 by Conrad

[Zeros]

-1 Your kits already have enough variety to counteract a little mid of a main gun imo, plus with the knives if you get them it'd add to that variety.

[Zeros 315]

-1 Your kits already have enough variety to counteract a little mid of a main gun imo, plus with the knives if you get them it'd add to that variety.

[KaiserNeiner]

“Oh boy the 10th deployment this week, I sure can’t wait to use my kit weapons to be in character as an RC!” 

 

“Oh boy, I sure am having fun putting 2 1/2 magazines into one B1.” 

 

+1 gun needs a buff. This thread will probably turn into an argument over ARC troopers vs RC troopers can’t wait 

[KaiserNeiner 0]

“Oh boy the 10th deployment this week, I sure can’t wait to use my kit weapons to be in character as an RC!” 

 

“Oh boy, I sure am having fun putting 2 1/2 magazines into one B1.” 

 

+1 gun needs a buff. This thread will probably turn into an argument over ARC troopers vs RC troopers can’t wait 

[Lively]

+1
The DC-17m should recieve a damage buff

[Lively 89]

+1
The DC-17m should recieve a damage buff

[Beans]

+1 

[Beans 54]

+1 

[Mystic]

2 hours ago, Conrad said:

-1

Your kits are already well rounded. I think it’s ok for the wester to outclass the dc-15m as your kits include sniper, shotgun, and gernade launcher, and the dc-15m already out classes most other kit weapons.  I think having the western be better makes sense since those kits aren’t as great. 

having stared at all of core_weapons for the last update, both the 15A/S and the DC17M have their ups and downs. 

DC-17M Pros
- Faster fire rate
- Better CQC use
- Cleaner scope and model
- Larger magazine
DC-17M Cons
- Poor hit reg
- Damage is like wet noodles (i think it does 22 and dropoff is actually pretty bad funny enough. its one of the only guns with bad fall off damage)
- Fire Rate + mag size burn ammo and honestly make the gun less desirable if you don't want to spend a fortune on ammunition.

15A/S most of us are familiar with. 

15A has heavy damage solid mag size and good range at the cost of fire rate/mobility.
15S has lower damage/mag shoots faster and has better mobility at the cost of damage. 

I'd be happy to mess around with it sometime soon and figure out some sort of tweaks for it, because like most of our weapons it probably does need it.  Though, if that buff is damage or something else i won't really know until then.

Edited March 23, 2025 by Mystic

[Mystic 1,496]

2 hours ago, Conrad said:

-1

Your kits are already well rounded. I think it’s ok for the wester to outclass the dc-15m as your kits include sniper, shotgun, and gernade launcher, and the dc-15m already out classes most other kit weapons.  I think having the western be better makes sense since those kits aren’t as great. 

having stared at all of core_weapons for the last update, both the 15A/S and the DC17M have their ups and downs. 

DC-17M Pros
- Faster fire rate
- Better CQC use
- Cleaner scope and model
- Larger magazine
DC-17M Cons
- Poor hit reg
- Damage is like wet noodles (i think it does 22 and dropoff is actually pretty bad funny enough. its one of the only guns with bad fall off damage)
- Fire Rate + mag size burn ammo and honestly make the gun less desirable if you don't want to spend a fortune on ammunition.

15A/S most of us are familiar with. 

15A has heavy damage solid mag size and good range at the cost of fire rate/mobility.
15S has lower damage/mag shoots faster and has better mobility at the cost of damage. 

I'd be happy to mess around with it sometime soon and figure out some sort of tweaks for it, because like most of our weapons it probably does need it.  Though, if that buff is damage or something else i won't really know until then.

Edited March 23, 2025 by Mystic

[Funnyman]

ironically 15A and S both have 100 mobility 

unless there is a hidden stat we cant see playerside 

[Funnyman 203]

ironically 15A and S both have 100 mobility 

unless there is a hidden stat we cant see playerside 

[DirtyDanLIT]

2 hours ago, Zeros said:

-1 Your kits already have enough variety to counteract a little mid of a main gun imo, plus with the knives if you get them it'd add to that variety.

I get your point sure, but when the main gun is just objectively worse to use then the side attachment that gives us little desire to even use it. Especially as Kaiser mentioned taking an average of 2-3 mags to kill deployment health droids just blows man. I want to be able to use the gun without the need to use the sniper or shotgun religiously.

[DirtyDanLIT 553]

2 hours ago, Zeros said:

-1 Your kits already have enough variety to counteract a little mid of a main gun imo, plus with the knives if you get them it'd add to that variety.

I get your point sure, but when the main gun is just objectively worse to use then the side attachment that gives us little desire to even use it. Especially as Kaiser mentioned taking an average of 2-3 mags to kill deployment health droids just blows man. I want to be able to use the gun without the need to use the sniper or shotgun religiously.

[Muss]

-1 its not a problem with the gun its more of a gm issue

[Muss 76]

-1 its not a problem with the gun its more of a gm issue

[Ryzee]

+1

[Ryzee 4]

+1

[Arizona]

+1

 

commandos are the best and their weapons should reflect that 

[Arizona 151]

+1

 

commandos are the best and their weapons should reflect that 

[Ylectic]

+1

 

[Ylectic 11]

+1

 

[BobbyBiceps]

+1

[BobbyBiceps 118]

+1

[FLiP]

+1 only due to westar buff. I do personally think it should be the strongest AR on the server. At the end of the day, you will just see droids spawned at higher health to compensate.

[FLiP 102]

+1 only due to westar buff. I do personally think it should be the strongest AR on the server. At the end of the day, you will just see droids spawned at higher health to compensate.

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