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Name: Donut RP Rank: 2LT Suggestion: Bring Sith Back as a joinable group for VIPs Implementation: Make a sub group like Bounty Hunters and Jedi and have it for only sith. Lore: The empty cave near one of the outposts is a secret sith hideout in Endor. This would make it to where Jedi have more interactions with actual sith and not event sith. It would make for some amazing RP and would overall improve the server. The models and weapons are already in the game as well as we have already done this before so we already know what to do with this. Workshop content if applicable: Use event job sith Models and name for each sith job. This would Remove bounty Hunters unless they could be implemented together. BB BB

Name: Sock Monkey RP Rank: General / Versock Clan Leader Suggestion: Remove Bounty Hunters from the server Implementation: While the excursion we went on with the bounty hunters was no doubt a blast, and if given a chance to go back in time, I'd +1 it again in a heartbeat. Unfortunately bounty hunters has faltered, with the excessive rules and documents, the departure of the visionary(Sanchez), The bounty system, motivation to play bounty hunter/ BH RP, and server as a whole has led to the collapse of bounty hunter. Documents/ Doc Upkeep Currently there are 5 separate documents and 3 forms in the public document channel in bounty hunter discord When you want become a BH, besides already touching up on the ~15 page rules and regulations, and 4 page BH ROE, you are then introduced to a 5 page bounty mission guide, and 1 page daily bounty claim limit info, as well as an excel spreadsheet of like 10 tabs, regarding everything with BH, overwhelming I know, and once you have all that down you're set to play BH and begin completing bounties!! When BH first started, keeping up with the demand of bounties and updating the docs was an absolute struggle, with none of the cabinet (mostly) knowing how to work the doc, let alone the 'Intel' who've probably done a whopping 0 things cause like none of them were taught how. Creator Sanchez had a vision, BH would be on the server, lawless, manipulative, up to trouble, a stake in the Republics side, with the potential to exploit BH greed for momentum in the ongoing war with the CIS for the Republic At the release of BH, Sanchez was prepared, he created all of the docs above (for the most part) and unlike Sith, it was smooth at launch, people got BH trained and all started having a good time, Sanchez dedicated lots of his time(LOTS) updating docs, interpreting rules for people, adding new rules, while the first Guild Leader got burnt out and left at launch sadly. As Sanchez faded off, it seems that full decision making fell on Palpatine(making ROE only) and the Cabinet/Guild leader, which led to issues of rules being interpreted differently by different people, and changes being made and not properly announced (ROE was weird at first, who can place bounties was a big issue, etc..) Sadly this idea fell with its creators drifting. Bounty System Yay welcome to BH Here fun bounties to do! Don't worry, you're more than welcome to go /me a few plants and take pictures to post to a form to get some 'renown' which makes you better?? BH bounty system feels like doing time killer side quests, except the game never implemented anything to keep track of it, so you have to go log it all on docs that get manually updated (not ripping on the cabinet at all they worked very hard) which can take some time due to the volume. If you're questioning the activity and use of the bounty system or activity of BH as a whole, the last cabinet bounty created (from when this was made 3/15/2020) was 3/9/2020 and there were 11 posted, with 12 total bounty hunters completing them (the times claimable for each is 5) so 12/55. (I don't even see a commission bounty for the month of March). Motivation/RP When we hop on BH we expect to get all our friends and run around and have a good time doin bounties, fighting enemies, and making renown/credits. This does not happen though it ends up being 3 BH adverting to the Republic if they need help with anything as they loiter around the front gate of the base and do cringe RP with clones as they try to get in so they can go complete bounties that require them in the base This leads to a cycle of BH acting friendly to the republic/being friendly, going in doing all the /mes, collecting all the bounties, and leaving. Server Currently as a Clone Wars RP server, that focuses exclusively on the Republic, it gives no purpose to the bounty hunters, as there is one faction, and NPC event jobs, if there were 2 or more factions or this was CW DarkRP, BH would work out and have a real use on the server, but its not, which makes BH purpose minuscule at best. Conclusion I loved the idea of BH, sadly, under several circumstances, it has become unnecessary for the server, the only way I see it working is if actual dev work went into a GMOD addon or game mode that gave it an in-game bounty system and in-game renown and stuff the doc upkeep was a temporary replacement, but has grown cumbersome with so many different ones needed to complete a task. Overall the excessive documents, departure of Sanchez, sub par bounty system, motivation and RP of bounty hunters, and Synergy as a server and its separate issues has led to the fall of BH, unsalvageable in my opinion. Add or Change: Remove all BH faction jobs (not event jobs pls :) ) Final Comments It was super fun while it lasted, a break from clones, and I still would no doubt support the addition to future separate factions, don't take this as we did with Sith as a bad thing, BH was a fun, good idea, but its vision and expectations couldn't be met with the capabilities of GarrysMod The people that worked hard on this did a fantastic job, and I appreciate all the effort they did to make BH enjoyable for the time it was out. But none the less a project we tried and didn't work out like we wanted, hopefully the future will see other bright ideas like BH that make our server stand out from the rest! I know BH only came out about a month and a half ago, but no point keeping something around when its clear that its not likely to improve or have a random resurgence of active players again.

So basically, I will let the others answer as they wish. But like, they can be abusable and when attached to the right setups can cause ridiculous lag. For trust issues, and to avoid people's ability to make mistakes. They were simply removed. Solve a problem before it happens. @Rohan

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To add on -1 Sith was an RDM fest. Old members will happily tell you how genuinely trash the "rp" was. Just don't do it. We've endured enough

However, you can't say that having Sith available as another party wouldn't help Bounty Hunters have more choice. Sure, you can steal from the Republic and build your character, but the presence of another faction would allow Bounty Hunters to actually have a choice. This suggestion doesn't outline everything that the faction could accomplish with just a few tweaks and help from the people of the server. The Sith failed for a number of reasons, and one of those reasons was that they felt the faction was out of place. There are ideas that can be thrown around to help the Sith fit in better with the structure of the server.

The whole point of Sith being in the server was to be a rival faction. People were treating Sith as they should be, which was just enemies that need to be gone. However, that stuff should be kept to IC. The OOC aspect of the SIth would be the thing that seperates Old Sith from a possible new Sith faction on the server. Instead of working against Jedi and everything that they do, the Sith would OOC work with Jedi to facilitate RP. The group of people that want Sith to return, including myself, have been coming up with ideas to negate the issues that the previous Sith faction had and improve on things that would genuinely help the server with RP. Nostalgia is a powerful tool, many people on the server have expressed their excitement for Sith. Originally, the Sith actually did do a lot of RP within their temple. The rest of the server didn't see this because, obviously, it was within the Temple. The Sith wrote numerous docs to facilitate their own roleplay and for the most part it was really fun to actually use. That's the sort of RP that Sith would be doing, however the ability to branch out to the rest of the server would work very well. Sith can possibly work with the Bounty Hunter to give them more of a choice of which side they would like to assign to. Currently, to be a Bounty Hunter, you are almost forced to side with the Republic in order to complete the quotas that they have set for themselves. With Sith being on the server, there would be more opportunities for Bounty Hunters to roleplay the way that we think of them, mercenaries that work for the highest bidder. TLDR; Sith would work with Jedi to help roleplay, Sith being on the server would help bounty hunters assuming the set-up is done correctly.

-1, No.

If you remove bounty hunters -1 until then

It's a difficult beast to manage. Lawless but also ruled over. Kinda like how the sith where meant to be but they got too edgy. My issue is with some of the bounty hunters being massive cunts sometimes and just not listening to people. They almost need like policing. In lore even the mandolorians had a police forces, the Journeyman Proctector. It's difficult to say how to fix it as it's both as intended but also hated. Clones have a natural disdain towards them due to past bad actions and then people moan when they don't trust them, but your descriptions proves that the republic shouldn't really trust them as far as they can throw them. It's hard to say, should a BH act like a functional psychopath, a mercenary, a cleptomaniac, a pirate, a brigand, a honorable gentleman/women. Its up to player choice but most of these options leave you at ends or heavily against the guilds ideals. Allow BH more autonomy could be good but give them the basical rules of the server. Like you can do what you want like kill someone with a reason, but random murder is an arrest and "purposeful" murder is a detention in Brig for a bit and a fine possibly. The issue as well is money. Everyone wants money and no one wants to give it. Perma weapons are stupid expensive and jobs pay you less than minimum wage basically. If you wanted to by all the money packs needed for the most expensive weapons, which is 250,000,000 or something that's would be 250 ÷ 2 which is 125, time that by $10 and it would cost you $1,250 dollar from 0. That is a big ludicrous. Evens a 30 mill weapons which is a standard price is basically worth $150! This results in no one paying anyone very much for a job unless it's high staff who just spawn the money in somehow and magic 1 mill. Its needs a long over haul. Limiting certain jobs is also dumb, when it was announced all I wanted to be was a BH droid and do about, being a droid, doing whatever i was paid to do. They are not super policed and I haven't seen one out of an event.

-1 From what I understand Hisoka is working with what he was provided and he has plans for BH. However, If things don't get better after underworld... then +1

Someone had to do it v5? I feel that BH was suddenly stuffed full of people that don't care about the faction. Several Cabinet members suddenly resigned and no one was stepping up to fulfill the role. Despite my suggestion to make Guild Leader a position you have to apply for essentially making the entire Cabinet think I'm against them, I actually have quite a lot of fun playing on it when I do and that genuinely is depressing. But, I'm firmly against adding something only to remove it not even a year later. I stand with the idea that if you fuck up something, it's your obligation to fix it at any cost until there's literally nothing more you can do. BH can still recover from the slump that they're in and don't need to be a 91st, 187th, 327th and SIth, all of which I've held a similar ideal on in the past. -1 For now but I will gladly eat my words once someone has actually tried to fix it first.

If this gets denied for the reason of “give them another chance” then I’ll see you all on the next 2-5 posts just like this. +1 We barely hit 90 players anymore. Bounty Hunters have been nonexistent in game for nearly a month or longer. (Also if they turn into event jobs like Sith did and the battalion’s we removed didn’t there’s a problem)

You are still forgetting that people shouldnt be maining BH as there are limits for a reason. BH is a thing that you do for a few hours and go back on your clone once you do your bounties. It shouldnt be taking away from the Republic population.