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This is literally me reading this bullshit 1.) I already said this is the last chance Sith get until I remove them to prove that they can actually stabilize themselves without founder assistance. 2.) I've met more serious roleplayers in the sith then I have outside of it, It's quite sad actually 3.) The original poster of this already posted this once and is well aware the sith is on their last strike, if I see this again you will be banned from the forums for 3 weeks. (This suggestion is denied and hopefully will never cycle again)

-1 I have had more quality RP on my sith on this server than before they were added. It would be a shame to have them removed forever. However It is a tad odd having them on the ship. Instead of removal they should be paused until we get to a nice base map or the one Jim is working on. Full removal would be a waste of potential and actual RP on this RP server. Waiting for the Xs. ❤️

Remove sith and you're removing the only thing that makes Synergy a unique server, Sith make Synergy different from Superior and Icefuse, if we remove Sith, the server will be a copy of Icefuse, and then where will the appeal be?

I mean when you put it that way.... hell yes. +1 get em out of here.

Hey dummy, you can't make a suggestion without asking me. Somebody auto deny this shit.

-1 And here's why: A) Lore. Of course there is no in-cannon lore for these sith, but they've made the lore from the time of implementation. This is a group of dark-side force users that model themselves off of the old republic era sith empire. If your argument is that everything has to be strict with the lore of the cannon then there would have to be alot of changes. This argument is like saying "The GM's events weren't shown in the show, they should be removed because they're non-cannon" Around half of the SOBDE squads are either dead at this point or are non-cannon. This server is basically an alternate timeline, we have server specific lore that exists. This is roleplay on a server wide level of using available lore and common sense that more than 2 force sensitives that used the dark side existed. And in the words of Joah, "if you don't want to roleplay then this server isn't for you." (or something like that) B) Improvement. You say, But things have changed majorly. We have more sith in the order and there is a report form you can submit if you have problems with individual sith. Roleplay has been encouraged more than ever. Rules have been changed to minimize the mindless killing of jedi and clones without RP. And these rules have been enforced when we are notified. Chrome has made tons of improvement in the field of mindless slaughter. Clones complained that they were getting slaughtered without RP before and now you complain that the sith have too friendly. C) Immersion. You say that your immersion is ruined because the sith exist. That everyone has to "break their RP mindset" due to the existence of these sith, but they really don't. Sith have allied with clones at some points in time through the means of RP; using leverage, speech, and maybe even a little bit of mind tricks. Every action and interaction between the sith empire and clone battalions has been built off the cannon lore to make server side lore. The lore of the server differentiates us from the other servers. We are unique. We are an alternate timeline and this server has many contradictions with the TV show and cannon universe. D) Out Of Character Issues. You say people complain in OOC about deaths while playing an enemy faction. You can report annoying sith with the report submission form. Some people try to RP and make a mistake and just get shot or detained, of course they'll complain although they shouldn't. People have emotions, they are allowed to have their opinions, tell them to take it to PM's. A lot of people have paid for VIP just for sith and to take it away from them would be unfair to their purchases. It costs 25 USD and alot of people have spent this for sith only. E) Roleplay Between Events. Sith create RP between events, you say they are good for this and acknowledge the roleplay that is, in fact, brought in by the sith between events. You blame Game Masters for the down time between events and the fact that the sith exist only to fill this time. So what if the sith only exist to fill in between the events, it's still creating roleplay and engaging the players of the server. By have great swaths of down time between events, people can easily get bored. Medical RP and Engineering RP get boring after a while. And you can't blame the GMs because you can't have encounters and events every single second of every day. Without Sith, there are no true enemies for the jedi, and with the great numbers in the jedi order, having a constant enemy like the sith is needed. The CIS can only be used in events and encounters. Without Sith, less roleplay is encouraged. Sith have created a plethora of roleplay scenarios for people to take part in. F) RoE. I'm paraphrasing here, based off memory. But, if a civilian is hostile, you can engage. If they are too close to an outpost or base, you can engage or attempt to detain. If the civilian reveals they are a sith, you can attempt to engage or detain. These make perfect sense. If clones are being too friendly with sith it is because roleplay is occuring. If needed, of course they can attack the sith (or civilian) if needed, but roleplay is encouraged constantly by the existence of the sith. To remove sith due to "lore" or "immersion" breaking then multiple other factions / battalions / individuals would have to be removed for the same reason. To have this absurd double standard just because sith kill clones or you don't like them is just that, absurd. Use your imagination, and enjoy it. Your immersion is only broken because you fail to think outside the small window of the entire Star Wars universe we are shown by the show. The fact that other dark side users exist and call themselves sith isn't too far fetched when you think about how many individuals would exist throughout the entire star wars galaxy. EDIT - We just recently filled our dark council and branch leadership under a more consistently active dark lord. We are improving our roleplay and interactions exponentially every week. With each council meeting improvements are made. With our newly filled council and lords we can effectively continue in consistently improving our order to move forward stronger.

-1 on many levels 1. There's complaints in OOC cause we can't do anything else cause people can't swallow their pride and accept it when they break rules I.E gunning down a random sith just trying to walk around and not fight. 2. This Server is not close to cannon compared to Star Wars in many, many ways. For example, how push over the CIS is or that the timeline isn't straight on what events should of happen and who has died. Plus, if you want it to be like the lore then SO MUCH would be stripped from this server and all of the enjoyment and just make it a boring thing NO ONE would enjoy unless they like fucking paint dry then fall off the wall. 3. It isn't really a Jedi vs Sith RP now it's still SWRP but with different quirks compared to other SWRP which every server has different qualities and I think it's shit when people complain and bash something that multiple people have dedicated their time for there to even be a Sith faction, Zim the coding monkey, Joah accepting this idea and working on it as the first Dark Lord and as the founder of Synergy and putting the budget into making it happen. So to finish, Calm down about Sith and ThEY'Re bReaKInG LoRE. There are multiple issues on both sides and if you're only just blaming one then you're too prideful in your power fantasy and what it how ONLY YOU WANT IT when there's more than just you or you're just too whiney because you can't deal with change.

Nobody asked for 187th and I'm pretty sure most would want 187th removed.

-1 If you're complaining about how we shouldn't even be here remove 187th with us. There are also numerous sith that follow the rule of two not just two, we have a COMPLAINT form check it out in the sith discord, want the link? I'll supply it. If anything the sith have been more jedi than jedi seeing as we're like we can maybe have a civil conversation and the jedi instantly fucking attack us. We are trying to remove the minges from within the faction but the problem is that people don't use the report form that we made for this exact reason. And yet again if you want us removed for the sake on continuity then remove 187th aswell and find another battalion that appears in the show

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Yikes When someone just threw 187th under the bus, As well I honestly think sith is ok for the server but it does cause alot of issues with the server so im gonna keep my +1 on the fact that I think the server might be better if they were possibly gone but as well I think the server might be a little weird with out them. I'm mainly +1ing on the fact that i think sith just causes more issues then anything on the server.

-1 As said before, the whole "breaking lore" thing invalidates half the named characters and some battalions on the server. The Sith actually provide fantastic RP since Chrome has taken over, better than most Jedi RP I see I'd say. They do provide cool/fun stuff to do in down time (you can't expect GMs to run events non-stop) if you want to, and with the recent rule changes things are becoming more clear on what is and isn't allowed. I think there are a couple changes that could be made: I think the Sith should read up more on rule changes ( a lot of them, especially Apprentice and below seem to remember old rules and not know the new ones), which the higher ups do enforce when it's brought up (to be fair it's hard to FORCE people to read it, but they put them out). OOC complaining happens in every battalion/faction if the situation pisses them off, and it is usually isolated individuals in that group. The only thing I will agree with is the whole "Alliance" thing; I never really liked it, and think the RP brought by the Civilian models as well as the random fights/encounters is sufficient. Overall, Chrome has done great work in turning them around and I would prefer to see other things removed over them.

I’m perfectly fine to play on my civilian model. I play on that more than my Sith armor honestly. I’m think that if we were to do this we could have the sith be like undercover Jedi, we would suggest more gruesome options and try cause some mischief or something. Or we can always do POW rp

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-1 Improve Rp my a** Knifes are a perma weapon. Not to be given to a jobs inventory. So I say switch the knives and we all good.

"Improve RP" Yeah... Okay... -1

VOID!!!!

I really don't mind, I just do it for the meme sake

Like where? We need Dark council perms to go into Jedi temple and when we do RP with Jedi outside we are interrupted by clones most of the time. To this I give a -1. I enjoy playing on my sith and I have great RP with Jedi and fellow sith. Most of my bad RP experiences come from Clones. If you wanted to replace sith with bounty hunters or something that could be cool. I kinda dig it. Also stop bringing up lore as an argument please. Give us actual reasons, say goodbye to some SOBDE members, 187th, Colt Havoc Waxer and Echo. Also dooms unit since they have barely anything. When I get home from work I will be doing something with Sith and let’s see how you like it. I think it will give Sith the RP boost it needs personally.

Sith have a civilian model for a reason. ITS TO LITERALLY RP WITHOUT BEING SHOT DOWN! And for the most part, sith are not on their civilian model and they walk around acting like we wont kill or detain them. If you want to walk around and do things, be on your civilian model. I also recommend that while on the Ship that sith ONLY use their CIVILIAN MODEL. It would make a lot more sense to have them as different characters, or possibly civilian guests on the ship rather then having actual sith on the ship with robes and lightsabers. The whole idea is just completely idiotic.

-1 Give chrome a chance to improve the sith damnit. And I know it breaks lore but we have quite a bit of stuff that breaks lore like some SOBDE squads and etc so were in our own headcanon in a way.

Lmao We didn’t ask for Sith Some boys just like *inserts faction in server*, and then we all like Hose mad +1 remove this shit

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yeh exactly, having Sith running around (which makes no sense anyway) cutting us up to then make friends with them? That's taking away my fun +1

+1 should've PK all of em last night

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Still waiting for rancor commanders to get a health nerf so they can die easily like in the shows -1

I don't mind the addition at all, if they want flying medics give it to them. I strongly believe in setting good precedents. And a precedent has already been set for flying medics for standard battalions. Even though I personally don't like the whole "I have a jetpack and I can go from one end of the map to the other while healing people" (With the exception of Kom'rk, he is SF and should get SF gear) I have no right and no place at all to say that someone else shouldn't get it. Especially if my battalion has what they are requesting. That being said, the 212th will be putting in a suggestion to receive parachutes in place of the jetpack if and once they do arrive. And I hope that this will also be receiving the parachute alongside the other 187th paratrooper job. tldr, +1 if the 212th gets it then they should too.

Please correct me if my statements are wrong. Kom'rk from Null Squad has a jetpack, bacta kit, and a bacta grenade. (I understand he's listed under SOBDE, but I had to list him for an example.) The subunit 2ndAC, from the 212th Attack Battalion, has a class called "2nd Airborne Company Medical Trooper." I believe this class contains the jetpack and a bacta kit. Troopers from the 187th commence missions from the sky. (Most of the time.) It would make sense for them to have a medical trooper that can fly with a squad with the paratroopers. I completely understand how that may be annoying for the members. You would have to pick the medic up and bring him with your squad/group. The squad/group would feel the Medic is dead weight for the following... The troopers would have to keep track of the Medic. Making sure he/she is following the squad. The Medic may not have max running skills. The Medic may not be able to cross over areas such as hills, mountains, lakes, and etc. If they had a jetpack, it would make it easier for them to follow the squad/group. Overall, I'm trying to see the pros and cons. The 2ndAC have 10 slots and he's asking for the same. +1 ~ Nixer

+1, current jetpacks will 9/10 times lift you up about 10 centimetres then knock you back down

Joah once said "I am not making autism flyable" Denied //locked //moved to denied

-1 Since im getting a lot of shit for this. Chrome has done a lot to revive the Sith and is trying to fix the problems within it your trying to take it away from him and many people that bought VIP. with the removal of sith the Jedi will have a lot less to do. it's just not fair to try and remove an entire faction especially trying 4 times. Just let the sith play it out for a while there is no need to get rid of them