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Honestly, I lost some braincells reading this. So here we go from an SOBDE stand point and a Squad lead stand point of which they consulted me about this. Foxtrot has little lore that states it's numbers and its members. Its simply stated as Foxtrot Group attached to the 212th Attack Battalion. That could mean yes they are Commandos issued to a Frontline Battalion, That could mean they are many teams. The point is that you are assuming. Now most if not all Republic Commandos are trained in all skills but specialize in one. For example Scorch is an EOD expert but can do marksmanship if needed. To quote the Republic Commando game is that "We are all pieces of a puzzle". Commando Squads are good because they need each other. Now for the issue of "At this point they should be SOBDE". Many other jobs are equipped with special weapons. Foxtrot for now is given the DC-17m and let me tell you it is really good for what it is. Now that being said, it is the standard weapon of the Republic Commandos. Meaning like of ARCs are issued the Westar-M5 its their snowflake gun for being a "Deluxe Clone". For them getting all the attachments of the DC-17m is no issue to me personally. I think they should. They are Commandos afterall. As much as it might hurt you feelings to say that, they are decently hard to get into and are issued Commando Armor. So they should be rewarded for their efforts and small spots open in general. Again not saying all non SOBDE Special Forces should get great weapons but again just stating my opinion. "BuT cRiMsOn, tHeY wIlL bE oFf bRaNd cOmAnDoS??!?!?" Do you think I really give a shit? No, SOBDE gets so many other advantages so they will never be as advantages as us. Thats not elitism thats the truth. Roll Bonus, Ability to go anywhere, Retarded big ass tryout dupes, Flexxing, IR, Edgy RP, You fucking Name it. Giving them Weapons and special roles really doesn't change how they operate now. Try to learn before you make assumptions. Sorry for the rant but it is what it is, Overall +1 for you Jakee. Keep our Mandalorian trainers proud brother.

God, the whole point of this suggestion was to give incentive for joining Foxtrot and of course everyone gets themselves in a tizzy. This is NOT a suggestion to make Foxtrot more like SO BDE, this is a suggestion for Foxtrot to have more in their kit and not be glorified to the point of not having anything. Foxtrot has already been removed from SOBDE and had all their weapons taken away, this is a happy medium that will literally benefit ONLY the people in Foxtrot. Alpha ARCs are similar, yes, but what does Alpha have that Foxtrot doesn't? Named characters? Weapons? SWEPs? I don't see the argument when everyone just minds their own business anyway. Obviously we don't want the server to be overinflated to the point where everyone has every weapon, but this literally isn't any different from squads already in the server.

+1 hes fat so if you -1 youre fatphobic

Tbh, the medic thing would be fine as well, which is why Jake made the suggestion in the first place, but if we can get more things for the troopers in the future, then we're obviously going to make the suggestion for it. Why does there have to be perfect harmony in order for a suggestion to be accepted? The whole point of making suggestions is to either make the server better or have trooper jobs have more benefits. Currently, the Foxtrot whitelist has: the dc17m. That's it. What's special about that? Why would anyone go through the trouble of passing the tryout when they're basically not getting anything. That's how we advertise Foxtrot, that you're attempting to pass a tryout so you can exist within a squad and be a step above a normal trooper. Currently, that isn't the case, and this suggestion is what we hope will fix that. If Foxtrot gets compared to SOBDE for the rest of it's life then it'll never be able to get anything to make it better, and will stay in this state for the rest of its time.

In all honesty, people have done far worse and have gotten let back into the community. reading a post on the forums isn’t really a great way to see if someone has changed imo so I’m willing to give him a chance. besides, looking at this it seems things just got a little out of hand in an otherwise fine situation. I think he should of probably been banned still but I don’t think a perma ban was 100% necessary. +1

Can we wait like 20 days so he has been banned 180 days, aka half a year, and then see where this goes?

When we on private 212th business w3 cannot deploy them separately. They are still essential members in our battalion and will fight in the frontlines but allowing them to be more independent when needed is great. They will not go all SOBDE and ditch, I sit letting it happen. I honestly dunno why all of you are pretending they're just gonna become some elite fuck off squad that never works with 212th and only goes on private missions. They'll be working separately on 212th missions. They will fight with us on da battlefield but if we see an opportunity we can send them around so they can do some RC stuff to help the 212th attack. Honestly bruh, rn foxtrot just a gun and that can't be changed without diversified jobs

There are people here who have literally told others to go kill themselves. Honestly, I see this situation as an empty threat and a pussy move on the banned guys behalf, but then again. Worse has happened. +1

Oh boy. In my opinion, I feel like nothing you do will remove the comparison of Foxtrot and SOBDE. Hell, If you want another pure example of this: Go look at Havoc Squad and ask people what they think and you'll get the words "edgy SOBDE wannabes". Do I hear anyone complaining about it from SOBDE? *CRICKETS* Of course not. @Shockpoint is right, They need a little more oof. +1

This Right here gentlemen This right here Yes "Currently, the Foxtrot whitelist has: the dc17m." This also is a thing. We have 1 gun. Thats the job. For the hardest tryout in 212th. That already has 2 other elite companies You get. One gun. Even if this gets denied, could we get something of a compromise? Because the state of Foxtrot as it stands just makes me sad.

-1 this is beyond fucked up threating people over a game and to affect them in the life outside the game

Just some food for thought. The reason why the squads had unique specializations for each of their members was because they were an independent group that usually only fought as those 4 members. So having a tech, eod, and medical trooper helps a lot. Foxtrot isn't a squad, its a detachment of RC troopers who were a part of the 212th. They don't need specialized roles for their members because they are a part of a battalion that already has these specialized troopers. Anyways, lore is dumb so here's a more server side reason why you shouldn't get these specializations. You guys aren't SO BDE. The only other group thats similar to you guys is Alpha ARCs, they have their unique loadouts however because they lost stuff to gain stuff. You guys would only be gaining in this situation, and at that point you guys are basically right back to being discount SO BDE again without any of the oversight that SO BDE requires. Also from reading some of what Comics has said, you guys are meant to be working with the 212th. Why the hell do you need an EOD, Tech. or medical trooper when you are working with usually the 2nd most populated battalion on the server? -1 from me.

well he did apologise to ghoul after the incident happened on discord but if he needs to apologise he can

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Gotta agree with Lucky here. The changes were made to it to more accurately follow lore and differ it from true SOBDE squads. Foxtrot group was used more like front line troops during the war and numbers exceeded all the other squads combined, no record of them operating in the same Squad dynamic as Delta, and Omega. Purely for a server stand point as well, this change doesn't make sense and cheapens SOBDEs unique make-up and loadouts. Sorry Bois but you get the armor and the weapons but it's not a true squad which is why it was added to 212th. -1

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