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Name: Feds

Suggestion: Game master for the Public

Implementation: Game master right now is staff only and to me this is hurting the server's morale/flow. Most of the time we are having loads of Main server events that are poor quality and are the same thing over and over again, shoot droids and repeat with a slight back story that won't matter after 10 minutes. When we get event server events it's hit or miss will it be good or will it be horrible we haven't had a large variety of events in a long time and I believe this is caused by Game Master Staff.

 

Many people that are interested in becoming a Game Master aren't interested in going through the ranks of staff all they want to do is provide the server with unique events that they feel people will enjoy. These people are scared away by the thought of having to wade their way through two months of staff work to finally be awarded the optimal rank for becoming a game master, and don't tell me this isn't true because I'm one of them.

 

Another thing is that not all staff are suitable for becoming a game master but their the only people that meet the requirements. 

 

This can be VIP only or made for the General Public either works but at the moment our Game Master system is seriously flawed and I'm hoping people will see this as well.

 

Finally how can this hurt the community? The applications can go through a more articulate test so that we are able to weed out minges/inadequate candidates.

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An independent Gamemaster branch? I've seen this before somewhere...

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I mean when I wanted an event to happen before I was admin, was that I would contact a game master and pitch them my idea. What ended up happenign was that, I ended up applying to staff because I wanted my idea to come to fruition and I eventually made it myself. Ask a game master, and if its a good idea they will do it ( if they arent lazy).

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This idea will never work, we are not giving staff powers to anyone who has not put in the work effort.

If you work hard you can raise through the ranks quickly I'll use hero for an example. He made it to Game master in 3 weeks and hosted events as a Game Helper with a master shadowing him.

Karma isn't events staff but wrote a huge event that Game Masters volunteered to run with him and it's already shaping up nicely from the effort.

 

TL;dr we don't give anyone Game Master who can't even show they want to work for it.

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17 minutes ago, Carter said:

This idea will never work, we are not giving staff powers to anyone who has not put in the work effort.

If you work hard you can raise through the ranks quickly I'll use hero for an example. He made it to Game master in 3 weeks and hosted events as a Game Helper with a master shadowing him.

Karma isn't events staff but wrote a huge event that Game Masters volunteered to run with him and it's already shaping up nicely from the effort.

 

TL;dr we don't give anyone Game Master who can't even show they want to work for it.

Why should people that only want to make events have to go through 2 months of non-gamemaster related work that won't prepare them for being a gamemaster at all. Also not everyone is Hero and to get to Game Master in 3 weeks you need to know people and everyone knows that. This also scares away largely talented could be game master candidates because of a stubborn rule. Most people don't want someone running their event idea they want to have the power to run their own event exactly how they want to run it. All of the people -1ing also are Admin+.

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as an ex head GM on another server (ASG. It's down now no advertisement ). I agree with  @Carter

side story that relates:

I was once told by the owner "we don't have enough GM's train all the people in DB to be GM's. " I had to tell him I will resign to make him reel it back. This would have caused a bunch of dudes who don't know how to craft a story and do not know any technical work (how the code works with hardware, file size, etc). 

Seeing how events can at times be hit or miss from the current GM team. I think giving these responsibilities out to people who just made an app and passed an interview is a very bad idea. 

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3 minutes ago, Daytona211 said:

as an ex head GM on another server (ASG. It's down now no advertisement ). I agree with  @Carter

side story that relates:

I was once told by the owner "we don't have enough GM's train all the people in DB to be GM's. " I had to tell him I will resign to make him reel it back. This would have caused a bunch of dudes who don't know how to craft a story and do not know any technical work (how the code works with hardware, file size, etc). 

Seeing how events can at times be hit or miss from the current GM team. I think giving these responsibilities out to people who just made an app and passed an interview is a very bad idea. 

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This doesn't have to be just an application also I don't believe you learn how code works/file size, etc as a staff member. Also as a game master you don't need to know any of that, you're able to give game masters an introductory training on how to effectively execute their ideas for events which this can be done on the event server.

I think you were meaning lag to the server if so all you have to do is put that into an introductory training which even before this it's common sense on how to keep lag down.

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11 minutes ago, Feds said:

 

Why should people that only want to make events have to go through 2 months of non-gamemaster related work that won't prepare them for being a gamemaster at all. Also not everyone is Hero and to get to Game Master in 3 weeks you need to know people and everyone knows that. This also scares away largely talented could be game master candidates because of a stubborn rule. Most people don't want someone running their event idea they want to have the power to run their own event exactly how they want to run it. All of the people -1ing also are Admin+.

If you don't want to do the effort that will get you to game master why do you deserve to have the position outside the current system?

The only time you have to train is an NA which shows us how dedicated to the server you are, once you to make it to Admin you can either stay TR, do both or, switch to the game helper only.

Again, if you don't put in the work why should you get the position?

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1 minute ago, Carter said:

If you don't want to do the effort that will get you to game master why do you deserve to have the position outside the current system?

The only time you have to train is an NA which shows us how dedicated to the server you are, once you to make it to Admin you can either stay TR, do both or, switch to the game helper only.

Again, if you don't put in the work why should you get the position?

Why should you have to? If all you want to do is make events? Game master isn't the cookie at the end of the road it shouldn't be the candy you hang over your child and say "You've got to earn boy" Your putting in hard hours to make an event for people on the server? Why should you have to work for that?

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7 minutes ago, Feds said:

Why should you have to? If all you want to do is make events? Game master isn't the cookie at the end of the road it shouldn't be the candy you hang over your child and say "You've got to earn boy" Your putting in hard hours to make an event for people on the server? Why should you have to work for that?

Honestly, I have no idea what you're trying to achieve with these arguments, all you keep saying is people shouldn't have to work to become a Game Master. Being a game a Master is literally one of the hardest jobs on the server, you get publicly critiqued by the whole server whenever you try to do your job, some people have quit the job after 1 bad event because of the community, Nothing about this is easy and because of this we have to have a very thorough process of checking who can do that job but having them move up the ranks just like anyone else.

It's already possible to be a Psuedo Game Master as proven by @CollinTheMarines

If you want to be a Game Master show you have the work ethic and drive to reach that goal.

We will never be implementing this. 

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26 minutes ago, Feds said:

This doesn't have to be just an application also I don't believe you learn how code works/file size, etc as a staff member. Also as a game master you don't need to know any of that, you're able to give game masters an introductory training on how to effectively execute their ideas for events which this can be done on the event server.

I think you were meaning lag to the server if so all you have to do is put that into an introductory training which even before this it's common sense on how to keep lag down.

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I can tell you working on an engine from 2004 in a game that was meant to be a sandbox with addon "devs" who copy the code from online. Isn't common sense for people who don't have experience / a technical background. 

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Ew feds what are you doing. No. Just why. This ain't communism. You work, you get (in most cases) . More GMs would be nice but, we need quality and quantity.

 

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-1 this has been requested about 4 times since I have been in Synergy. Joah has explained every single time that the VIPs are too mingy, and that is the main reason why you have to be an Admin to become a game helper. there needs to be  level of trust before doing so.

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8 hours ago, Carter said:

This idea will never work, we are not giving staff powers to anyone who has not put in the work effort.

If you work hard you can raise through the ranks quickly I'll use hero for an example. He made it to Game master in 3 weeks and hosted events as a Game Helper with a master shadowing him.

Karma isn't events staff but wrote a huge event that Game Masters volunteered to run with him and it's already shaping up nicely from the effort.

 

TL;dr we don't give anyone Game Master who can't even show they want to work for it.

Thx for using me an example. 

And also yes i did host events as a game helper, i would be COMPLETLY ok with shadowing game helpers at any point, once you get to game helpers I will sit with you for however long it takes until the event is completed. You just kind of need to be very persistent and eventually you will find a gm to shadow you. 

(But if you want to do an event as a GH find me when I’m on and I’ll help u out as much as i can)

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Game Master for the Public has been suggested a large amount of times and has always been shut down.

I am not prepared to give administrative powers to those that have not went through the Staff Interview / application process. 

If you would like to become a game master I recommend you become a staff member and work your way into the game master program.

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Have a nice day

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I miss doing events

I miss my Phys gun

I miss freezing minges in the air WITH my Phys gun

I miss their screams

But I don't miss being staff

While personally, I'd love to support this because I have been staff before and I know my head from my ass. Most of the servers population hasn't been staff. So I cant support it

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