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I feel like this is going in one ear and out the other at this point, its not about losing the mortars its about the fact that dire squad and Jug fought so hard for a unique item that only they can have compared to others. 241st would be just as upset if every battalion's HVO got droid poppers, the battalion itself wouldn't lose it but something entirely unique would be watered down and make them feel like they're not as special. This is playing with fire, if 501st gets the mortars what will stop the 212th from saying the same exact thing along with the 241st? The standard has already been set with 501st if it does happen and it will turn into an all or nothing, hurting 1 battalion at the small gain of 3 others. You can't sit here and tell me that 212th and 241st in the future wouldn't want mortars too if the justification is "I am an attack battalion"

This is a hot take and might get taken down because someone can see it as mean or whatever but with you pushing for this when someone else put the work in to get this item added to the server is showing me you don't want to put the time/effort to make the 501st more unique and want to piggy back off someone that the high staff got tired of hearing him talk about it every single time the server suggestions were open. When it was denied numerous times and even when it was accepted and took a long time to be implemented Jug constantly asked every time there was an update "are we getting mortars?" and when he was told no he raised hell about it. If you really want to do something and work with the 104th make carnivore battalion a reality, who specializes in mechanized equipment that can assist the 104th during events. Jug will tell you himself he is lucky to have 1 supp helping with the tanks during an event and will gladly allow other people who are tank trained to operate vehicles and take turns.

Yes and that is what the suggestion portion is for, do you think Xaze sat down with Jug to get dire squad made? No he had to work hard and get support for it. The main person said 501st has nothing that's what I'm talking about. "I don't know why everyone gets so hung up on the lore point, like ive already stated, the lore aspect is just one of the motivations. The biggest motivation is still, 501st has nothing. So what if we have the most lore characters. Currently the top 3 battalions on the server are 104th, 212th and 501st. For the people in 501st, having the most lore characters means nothing, we have nothing that makes us stand out or that we can use. If the 104th wants to utilize tanks (which I btw give you every single event and deployment I host) Start enforicing the hierchy instead of saying you rarley get to use it"

You know this is a roleplay server right, maybe people just like to roleplay as a mortar man and feel like they are helping their brothers. Things can be adjusted which Jug has pushed hard to get things improved, getting them took a year making them good will probably take another 1 or 2.

7 people in it and the only bonus is the jetpack and one only 1 get an ARC kit, warthog went without a jetpack forever, boost doesn't get a rocket launcher even though hes a HVO, comet is just a normal trooper with a jetpack, they don't have prio for hostage/negotiations, no prio for boarding, no prio for EOD, no prio for anything. They are second picked for everything and forgotten about majority of the time and they have to sit back watching others who have the prio for these things. 104th has 2 things that makes it stand out, mortars and tanks thats it. You can go join RANCOR and get the same equipment as wolfpack and much more. Go ask any new person why they joined the 104th, majority of the answers will say wolfpack and tanks thats it. No one joins for dire squad, they don't know about it until its brought up by someone in dire squad. When I was playing on the server I didn't care at all about dire squad because they had nothing to set them apart, the only reason people like wolfpack is because jetpacks are broken in a game like garry's mod.

You're in the 501st, the battalion and the lore associated with it is what makes it special. If you feel like the lore characters do nothing then you're not roleplaying or utilizing them properly and just seeing them "insert place holder here" The lore motivation again is pointless, in lore everyone used droid poppers should we give it to the HVOs of 501st too since you say the 501st has nothing? If we aren't entitled to anything then you aren't entitled to the mortars for the sake of "we have nothing to make us unique" when you are THE 5 0 1 ST L E G I O N, the most well known and sought out battalion on every gmod server. Go to any other server and its almost always the biggest battalion because people think its cool to be in it. If you feel like the 501st has nothing special then instead of taking the what seems to be the lazy and easy way to correct it (which no one will join 501st just because you might have a chance at mortars) why not do something with Torrent Company? Why not add the Carnivore Battalion then and flesh that out as a more specalized mechanized side to help the 104st and 41st? The LORE for them is very little but you can expand on it like with dire squad and find something unique to make them stand out. I don't think this is about mortars I think its more about you wanting to flesh out the 501st but not in the way someone should. Going to the drawing board and as a veteran admin you know Xaze is big on standing out so why not talk to your battalion, look at the lore and what's not on the server and add that to the 501st instead? Carnivore Battalion could make turrets the E-WEB or something similar, maybe sticky grenades or even having thermal detonators for torrent company or something. There is a lot to work with but trying to take away something to the 501st when they only have 2 unique things is honestly insulting to them. All they get are tanks and mortars for a small sub unit. When tick is high the tanks are taken away making them another generic attack battalion with none of the specialized stuff or priority for it. If you wonder why the 104th is so adamant about this its because those 2 things is the only thing setting them apart from the other battalions and to have one taken away to make another battalion that shouldn't be seen as "boring" or "having nothing" seem more appealing is a slap to their face.

This is a massive -1 in every regard You are apart of the 501st, the battalion with the most lore, named characters and 3 characters that are some of the most popular in the entire series. Every single battalion used mortars, artillery, AT-TE, AT-RTs and so on so saying its "apart of the lore" is a moot point. Instead of putting everything in your battalion have you considered working with the 104th and using their mortars during a push and coordinate with them? This just seems like the 501st wants a little bit of everything instead of allowing the battalions that have unique items to keep said unique items. Again if you say "lore reasons" 241st isn't real, dire squad isn't real and so are numerous other things. Would you be upset if the 104th asked to have an EOD sub unit to handle explosives and say they want to work alongside the 501st? This is a big "stay in your lane" moment and pushing for it only hurts the server overall when the 41st has been asking for numerous things to make them unique and has been denied on multiple occasions.

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Tons of +1s from people that have it and say its ridiculous, a weapon that one shots aircraft shouldn't be allowed. I know plenty of people who have the pistols that say they are a crazy weapon. Power creep is a real thing and makes people unable to fully enjoy the game, having weapons from before no longer available and one that just trumps them all isn't a good strategy.

The cycler rifle doesn't one shot most players, the christmas sniper does it to everyone except Wolfpack and 2ndAC. They are nerfing the pistols, Jayarr already stated that and the fire shotgun nerf isn't off the table its on their radar. One person has the kyber rifle, 600 million credits > 100 dollars. Its like 3k dollars for that item. Majority of people with the pistols want them nerfed because they trivialize most things.

Everyone talks about the pistols its why they are nerfing them, the supercharged pistols are cancer to deal with. If you can only get them at a certain time for cheap then its unfair for future players who join at a future time. Same with the fire shotgun, that's not off the table to nerf.

If the mass driver had a large AOE and did like 2k damage it could be so good at clearing out enemies. It does no damage to CIS tanks btw we tested it the shots hit and don't register

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