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So let me just start with a +1 so anyone scrolling through this to count can just figure it out. Anywhoo, I've been under countless Cody's and only 212th or SOBDE at any given time, so I can see both sides of this. I've read through most of this post, and I have seen why people do not want to see Foxtrot with 212th, but most if not all of the counter points have already been addressed by Kaiser, Finn, or another member of the community. When I was in SOBDE, this was a little over a year ago from what I understand when Void was Boss and eventually BCMD. I was grey RC the entire time while in SOBDE, and eventually I was "Foxtrot" which at the time was just grey RC with orange color and all four members were all supposed to be specialized in some capacity. When you were in Foxtrot, you were not anything special, and you were again stated, glorified grey RC. We had no Gregor, and when Sarge tried to get the whitelist he wasn't seen fit for the role and so we never got an official leader of any kind. Foxtrot never inherently did anything special at any point, you had the same qualifications, ranking, and authority as any given grey RC. There was no system where if you were foxtrot, you had more right to a tryout than anyone else, or any system where if you went into Foxtrot Tech, like myself, you would have greater priority for a role such as Fixer. Even the medical trooper of the squad, which wasn't a squad as we had multiple people with the same specialization at one given time, didn't ever get a medkit other than a single time I can recall which was for an event server deployment despite us asking every single event to have a medkit from the GM. Overall, it was just something you could be in SOBDE with no rhyme or reason. From what I observed, in order to rise rank and get to the position of Gregor, you would have to join another subunit, become squad lead, then leave to Gregor which was just a hot mess. Now as for my 212th experience when we did have Foxtrot with Shockpoint among others, I see nothing wrong with adding it as 212th is offering to give up whitelists, something SOBDE would not do as stated by Slak a few posts above me when they applied to do so under Iceman's term but was left denied by Marvel. As far as Foxtrot went from my perspective, it worked and functioned fine. I see some people talk about how 212th can't uphold the "SOBDE Standard" which was never a problem when Foxtrot was in 212th. Seeing it from both sides of the spectrum in this conversation, I doubt that with the right people chosen, Foxtrot would be fine coming into 212th. Regarding that, again, I believe that as long as you don't pick out the children that hardly reach the goal of "semi-serious" rp, Foxtrot can be held to the same standard. After coming back to the server about a week ago, I'm not sure what standard Super is referring to either, as I don't see much has changed since the last time I was in SOBDE. Obviously your average 212th member shouldn't be joining, which I whole-heartedly agree with, but Finn, Kaiser, among maybe one other I believe have the correct judgement to at least see who could be considered for the role of being held to a "higher standard." Ever since SOBDE got battalioned, they have lacked a higher standard. All in all, while I have seen claims and counterpoints from both sides, I don't see how adding this can negatively impact the server. +1. Idc how much flak I catch for this post.

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+1 This suggestion is huge, not just for 212th but the server. Firstly, this has the dual effect of focusing GC into a more lore accurate and specialized subunit instead of "the main battalion but with cooler armor" AND increasing cooperation and interaction between SOBDE and the rest of the server. By making this a joint venture, and holding all applicants to RC standards, this is a fantastic way for SOBDE to rub their roleplay prowess and professionalism on the rest of the server. If Foxtrot gets added it will be held to an incredibly high standard in behavior, roleplay, and general professionalism. This being the case, it will have a trickle down effect of promoting better roleplay and behavior in all of 212th. This in of itself has the potential to really positively impact the server. Secondly, if this suggestion passes I believe it will have a huge positive influence on server moral. For a long time there has been an attitude of "i cant suggest anything i want for my battalion because it wont pass anyways". This suggestion was a long time in the making and is the result of close cooperation between 212th HC and several other battalions. If it passes, it will both prove that 1. If your suggestion is well thought out and you approach the community instead of just springing a suggestion on us it has a real chance of passing. 2. That synergy is capable of growing out of the "-1 i dont want you to have cool thing because i dont like that you want cool thing". I really believe this will both inspire battalions to come up with their own cool suggestions to help improve player experience within their battalions and cooperate with the rest of the server while doing so. It would be really cool to see us come together as a community to show our support for cool new stuff for every battalion/the server as a whole instead of that gremlin mindset of "if my battalion doesnt get a cool thing yours cant have one either".

You're not appealing to me, you're appealing to the community. Look, I was just told this guy needs a ban for L2AP cause you left the server while there was an active AOS on you.