Logic Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) Name: Logic | Gree This is not a normal suggestion so please read it all Joah has recently announced that 187th will be added back and a battalion will get removed. Normally this would be fine, but he took a community vote, because this isn’t icefuse, so he gave the community a voice, at my current time typing this there is 82 yesses in that poll. Now yes that IS a substantial amount, until you look at the Nos. One Hundred and Twenty. That is almost 150% the amount of yesses. And yet, joah took this vote and said fuck it we’re adding it back. Because “By the players, For the players” why to add it back: I’ve looked through alot of the comments and heres what I saw. -Makes a small amount of players happy -Replaces a struggling battalion -brings back some old members thats basically what I saw. Why NOT to add it back: -Because the players don’t want it back -Because it will empty out members from battalions that are struggling or recovering. Making them all in the same position as the battalion that is getting removed -It has 2 lines of Lore -It will destroy 2nd AC because they lose their uniqueness -our recruits are already spread so thin that the upset balance 187th will make can destroy the future for other battalions -Because there is other ways to fix the issues in the struggling battalion that you plan on removing other than complete removal. -The people who wanted to add it back had no valid reason other than “I miss it” This community is made by the players, for the players, so listen to the players, please Edited March 20, 2019 by 41st Logic 13 I'm not toxic. You're just making it really hard to not treat you like an idiot.
Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) Name: Logic | Gree This is not a normal suggestion so please read it all Joah has recently announced that 187th will be added back and a battalion will get removed. Normally this would be fine, but he took a community vote, because this isn’t icefuse, so he gave the community a voice, at my current time typing this there is 82 yesses in that poll. Now yes that IS a substantial amount, until you look at the Nos. One Hundred and Twenty. That is almost 150% the amount of yesses. And yet, joah took this vote and said fuck it we’re adding it back. Because “By the players, For the players” why to add it back: I’ve looked through alot of the comments and heres what I saw. -Makes a small amount of players happy -Replaces a struggling battalion -brings back some old members thats basically what I saw. Why NOT to add it back: -Because the players don’t want it back -Because it will empty out members from battalions that are struggling or recovering. Making them all in the same position as the battalion that is getting removed -It has 2 lines of Lore -It will destroy 2nd AC because they lose their uniqueness -our recruits are already spread so thin that the upset balance 187th will make can destroy the future for other battalions -Because there is other ways to fix the issues in the struggling battalion that you plan on removing other than complete removal. -The people who wanted to add it back had no valid reason other than “I miss it” This community is made by the players, for the players, so listen to the players, please Edited March 20, 2019 by 41st Logic 13 I'm not toxic. You're just making it really hard to not treat you like an idiot.
JaBaku Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) o7 well you have some large honkers now time to sit back and watch this one Neutral aslo the award is for the last sentence btw Edited March 20, 2019 by JaBaku
Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) o7 well you have some large honkers now time to sit back and watch this one Neutral aslo the award is for the last sentence btw Edited March 20, 2019 by JaBaku
Usefulgamer Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) +1 why have a battalion that’s just basically offbrand 2ndAC? i know I’m bouta get sent to the “fun time” camp for speaking against The kommandant. Edited March 20, 2019 by Kool Kid Useful Uhh Zees are not ze humanz your looking for. Current: Rancor Medic Previous: 327th Commander ARCL Useful, DU ARC Commander Jerome, CT PVT 1348 Useless
Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) +1 why have a battalion that’s just basically offbrand 2ndAC? i know I’m bouta get sent to the “fun time” camp for speaking against The kommandant. Edited March 20, 2019 by Kool Kid Useful Uhh Zees are not ze humanz your looking for. Current: Rancor Medic Previous: 327th Commander ARCL Useful, DU ARC Commander Jerome, CT PVT 1348 Useless
Clank Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 +1. 187th is a useless addition that's only here to appease the older players and friends of the owner. I see no reason why we should bring it back. It's gonna kill other battalions just for it to die itself. And that's the best scenario I can see happening. 1
Posted March 20, 2019 +1. 187th is a useless addition that's only here to appease the older players and friends of the owner. I see no reason why we should bring it back. It's gonna kill other battalions just for it to die itself. And that's the best scenario I can see happening. 1
Elijah Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) I'm Neutral on this, Why not back back RM? Joah do make some bad decisions but its the best for the server. Edited March 20, 2019 by Elijah 2 Currently holds: Master of the Order Mace Windu Past Postions: 2Del, x10Boomer, x3Anakin , x2Eeth Koth, Lumi, Quinlan, Adi, x2Kit Fisto, Shaak Tix2, 501st CMD, 91st CMD, Kano, Hawk, 2xAppo, 241st CMD
Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) I'm Neutral on this, Why not back back RM? Joah do make some bad decisions but its the best for the server. Edited March 20, 2019 by Elijah 2 Currently holds: Master of the Order Mace Windu Past Postions: 2Del, x10Boomer, x3Anakin , x2Eeth Koth, Lumi, Quinlan, Adi, x2Kit Fisto, Shaak Tix2, 501st CMD, 91st CMD, Kano, Hawk, 2xAppo, 241st CMD
Grum Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 I agree with Logic, why add another battalion in when everyine else is having a slow recruitment time. There just isnt as many new people coming to the server to just add another battalion. Last time one was added EVERY battalion was hit very hard for months. Fix the rp problems on your rp server before adding someone in and saying its going to help make things better 2
Posted March 20, 2019 I agree with Logic, why add another battalion in when everyine else is having a slow recruitment time. There just isnt as many new people coming to the server to just add another battalion. Last time one was added EVERY battalion was hit very hard for months. Fix the rp problems on your rp server before adding someone in and saying its going to help make things better 2
JaBaku Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 Just now, Grum said: I agree with Logic, why add another battalion in when everyine else is having a slow recruitment time. There just isnt as many new people coming to the server to just add another battalion. Last time one was added EVERY battalion was hit very hard for months. Fix the rp problems on your rp server before adding someone in and saying its going to help make things better I agree i think if we add any new batts anyway is to add a different batt that is more unique and never has been on the server before but it is what is 0.o 1
Posted March 20, 2019 Just now, Grum said: I agree with Logic, why add another battalion in when everyine else is having a slow recruitment time. There just isnt as many new people coming to the server to just add another battalion. Last time one was added EVERY battalion was hit very hard for months. Fix the rp problems on your rp server before adding someone in and saying its going to help make things better I agree i think if we add any new batts anyway is to add a different batt that is more unique and never has been on the server before but it is what is 0.o 1
Wolfro Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 This is indeed interesting I remember a couple times since the beginning this has happened and yea it will be great for the first couple of months then dies off and the server in the most part was worse off after the change. I will just say this hopefully this is looked at by all angles instead of singular reasons is all I am going to say. The migration seen a lot of greatness in the beginning but things are slowly coming full circle wait and see if another circle is made. Polls in the past have made the decision but some how implementations are made in another direction lets just see how this goes. Remember to many choices are a bad thing. 2
Posted March 20, 2019 This is indeed interesting I remember a couple times since the beginning this has happened and yea it will be great for the first couple of months then dies off and the server in the most part was worse off after the change. I will just say this hopefully this is looked at by all angles instead of singular reasons is all I am going to say. The migration seen a lot of greatness in the beginning but things are slowly coming full circle wait and see if another circle is made. Polls in the past have made the decision but some how implementations are made in another direction lets just see how this goes. Remember to many choices are a bad thing. 2
Scarecrow Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, Kj12344 said: 187TH JUMP INTO HELL TO BRING OTHERS OUT Nah that's the ODST and can we give the 501st their airborne they had the figures showing they had em too
Posted March 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, Kj12344 said: 187TH JUMP INTO HELL TO BRING OTHERS OUT Nah that's the ODST and can we give the 501st their airborne they had the figures showing they had em too
Scarecrow Posted March 20, 2019 Posted March 20, 2019 187TH JUMP INTO HELL TO BRING OTHERS OUT Nah that's the ODST and can we give the 501st their airborne they had the figures showing they had em too
Posted March 20, 2019 187TH JUMP INTO HELL TO BRING OTHERS OUT Nah that's the ODST and can we give the 501st their airborne they had the figures showing they had em too
Retired Founder Joah Posted March 20, 2019 Retired Founder Posted March 20, 2019 Logic, I've already made the statement, that nothing is going to change this. It is happening, times change. I've already committed $300+ Into their creation and return. 2AB, is already essentially none-existant, so that argument has already gone out the window. For all your arguments that are being made, we might as well not have given 327th a chance at all and never re-added them. Also, for "Struggling battalions" There are only 2. and that's for a very good reason. I'm not going to turn this into a public roast fest for those individuals. But only 2 commanders are a serious issue right now and refuse to fix their attitude for the betterment of their battalions. The rest are perfectly fine. "This community is made by the players, for the players, so listen to the players, please" I love how this line is your last defense and everyone's last defense. The community is made by the players and for the players. but that does not mean that I allow the community to make 100% of the decisions, otherwise, you'd all be at founder meetings/etc. I have no intention of always going with 100% of the majority, sometimes the minority will win. ~ In this case, the Minority, is 80+ People, which is typically quadruple the suggestion about. <-- Again a number that is nothing to scoff at. When you say. "Only" some players" I can tell you right now 12 in specific have returned directly for the 187th return. 5 of which applied for staff. For when you to state that it's going to hurt others? It seems like it makes up where you lack in care. If you care about your battalion and they care about you, they will remain for you. Just as they did for me in the 501st when I was able to get 50+ Players online by actively creating a stimulating environment. Stop making excuses for why battalions are dead, and do something about it. This is denied and will be denied until we see how 187th physically does. I'm not going to kill something that hasn't even been given a chance to breathe. It's time to sit down and rest my son. DENIED PS: For those who are overly worked up about a battalion. There is a sun outside, please go see it. 2 1 2
Retired Founder Posted March 20, 2019 Logic, I've already made the statement, that nothing is going to change this. It is happening, times change. I've already committed $300+ Into their creation and return. 2AB, is already essentially none-existant, so that argument has already gone out the window. For all your arguments that are being made, we might as well not have given 327th a chance at all and never re-added them. Also, for "Struggling battalions" There are only 2. and that's for a very good reason. I'm not going to turn this into a public roast fest for those individuals. But only 2 commanders are a serious issue right now and refuse to fix their attitude for the betterment of their battalions. The rest are perfectly fine. "This community is made by the players, for the players, so listen to the players, please" I love how this line is your last defense and everyone's last defense. The community is made by the players and for the players. but that does not mean that I allow the community to make 100% of the decisions, otherwise, you'd all be at founder meetings/etc. I have no intention of always going with 100% of the majority, sometimes the minority will win. ~ In this case, the Minority, is 80+ People, which is typically quadruple the suggestion about. <-- Again a number that is nothing to scoff at. When you say. "Only" some players" I can tell you right now 12 in specific have returned directly for the 187th return. 5 of which applied for staff. For when you to state that it's going to hurt others? It seems like it makes up where you lack in care. If you care about your battalion and they care about you, they will remain for you. Just as they did for me in the 501st when I was able to get 50+ Players online by actively creating a stimulating environment. Stop making excuses for why battalions are dead, and do something about it. This is denied and will be denied until we see how 187th physically does. I'm not going to kill something that hasn't even been given a chance to breathe. It's time to sit down and rest my son. DENIED PS: For those who are overly worked up about a battalion. There is a sun outside, please go see it. 2 1 2
Retired Founder Joah Posted March 20, 2019 Retired Founder Posted March 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, Grum said: I agree with Logic, why add another battalion in when everyine else is having a slow recruitment time. There just isnt as many new people coming to the server to just add another battalion. Last time one was added EVERY battalion was hit very hard for months. Fix the rp problems on your rp server before adding someone in and saying its going to help make things better It is in the middle of the school year, when summer and breaks happen. The server is flurishing for a reason, this is every server and it is always this way every single year. With every sever.
Retired Founder Posted March 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, Grum said: I agree with Logic, why add another battalion in when everyine else is having a slow recruitment time. There just isnt as many new people coming to the server to just add another battalion. Last time one was added EVERY battalion was hit very hard for months. Fix the rp problems on your rp server before adding someone in and saying its going to help make things better It is in the middle of the school year, when summer and breaks happen. The server is flurishing for a reason, this is every server and it is always this way every single year. With every sever.
Retired Founder Joah Posted March 20, 2019 Retired Founder Posted March 20, 2019 13 minutes ago, SR Clank said: +1. 187th is a useless addition that's only here to appease the older players and friends of the owner. I see no reason why we should bring it back. It's gonna kill other battalions just for it to die itself. And that's the best scenario I can see happening. Is that what happened with 327th when we returned them? 1
Retired Founder Posted March 20, 2019 13 minutes ago, SR Clank said: +1. 187th is a useless addition that's only here to appease the older players and friends of the owner. I see no reason why we should bring it back. It's gonna kill other battalions just for it to die itself. And that's the best scenario I can see happening. Is that what happened with 327th when we returned them? 1
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