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Regimental Changes 

General Updates

Hi All, I want to give one final status update on the current Regiments before the changes. Please note, with this post, I'm really looking at feedback. We're attempting to make all the regiments more mobile, and easily changeable for the future. 

 

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Clone Updates

This is the big one. Please see below for the Regiments and Regimental Changes. 

5th Sector Army - Shadow Hand: Finn
- 212th
 - SOBDE
 - GM

3rd Sector Army - Steel Blade: Slak
 - 104th
 - 501st
 - DU 

10th Sector Army - Crimson Dagger: Noodles
 - 41st
 - Rancor
 - CG

These changes will take effect Thursday 7/21/2022. We want public feedback, and are open to hearing suggestions about these changes. Please keep in mind, we are human.

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Navy Updates

New Ranks!

 

Jedi Updates

Jedi have been going through and ensuring their structure and trials are impliemnted on the new map.

 

Senate Updates

The senate is working on the revamp of it's 3 committees while exploring new options to branch out to the community. Also jar jar is open!

 

Guild Updates

No Guild Updates this week.

 

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Finn is too edgy for that name

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Just now, SquishyFishyy said:

I really like the change and I like that its available to change things around a bit more. However my only issue is the regiment names are names wed come up with when i was on a 12 year old soccer team LOL

They're lore accurate, blame the star wars writers.

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1 minute ago, SquishyFishyy said:

I just looked up first sector army and not once on that wiki page does it say Shadow Hand

That's cause Finn's very dumb and renamed the numbers so he'd be first in TS. They WERE lore accurate.

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2 minutes ago, Tec said:

They're lore accurate, blame the star wars writers.

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Just now, chysk0 said:

huh

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That's cause Finn's very dumb and renamed the numbers so he'd be first in TS. They WERE lore accurate.

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"The Third Mid Rim Army, also known as the 3rd Sector Army, Steel Blade Command or simply the Third Army, was a Republic and later Imperial Sector Army charged with the defense of Sector 3.[1]"

I think 3rd and 2nd sector have to change...this is according to a simple google search. 3rd Sector is steel blade not crimson dagger so just flip the too. Keep the battalions under the name but just change the sector army. 

Other then crimson really being the 10th sector and shadow hand being the 5th no complaints...makes sense just having a 1,2,3 and not a 3,5,10 lol

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17 minutes ago, Xaze said:

1st Sector Army

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2nd Sector Army

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3rd Sector Army

LOVE THESE

 

18 minutes ago, Xaze said:

Shadow Hand

Hate the cringe edge-lord bits at the end.

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2 minutes ago, Forseen said:

LOVE THESE

 

Hate the cringe edge-lord bits at the end.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Sector_Army/Legends?so=search#List_of_Sector_Armies_under_the_Clone_Wars_and_early_Imperial_Period

 

LORE

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I've edited Sector Armies to be more lore accurate <3 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Cubby said:

@XazeRandom Question: How did you chose which battalions were gonna be together?

Great Question! I had each regimental poll their BCMDs of who wanted to be in a regiment together and who didn't. From the results, we came up with a new order. We had some internal strife with a few options but felt this order was for the best. We also wanted to go back to 3/3/3 to normalize the workload between the regimentals.

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@ForseenMY LORE :HUH:

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Great Question! I had each regimental poll their BCMDs of who wanted to be in a regiment together and who didn't. From the results, we came up with a new order. We had some internal strife with a few options but felt this order was for the best. We also wanted to go back to 3/3/3 to normalize the workload between the regimentals.

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As much as I absolutely love having more added lore in terms of the bureaucracy (I believe I forgot the proper word) (Sector Armies and whatnot), is, let's say, Shadow Hand part of the 5th Sector Army or the name of the Army (server lore-wise)? 

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1 hour ago, Prophet said:

As much as I absolutely love having more added lore in terms of the bureaucracy (I believe I forgot the proper word) (Sector Armies and whatnot), is, let's say, Shadow Hand part of the 5th Sector Army or the name of the Army (server lore-wise)? 

Shadow Hand is the name of the sector army. Think like how the flying tigers was the unit name but it had an official register in the US Air Force 

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1 minute ago, Snadvich said:

Shadow Hand is the name of the sector army. Think like how the flying tigers was the unit name but it had an official register in the US Air Force 

I know that. But what I'm asking is that are we to refer to our group as a "Sector Army" or still as a "Regiment". 

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The names are so cringe it hurts. I really don't care if its lore because so was grey jedi and everyone hated them for being edgy.

And why are we always out the loop, why is it always feedback after the change?!?!?!

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Just a random thought I had. Why are we limited to only having 3 regiments to organize everything under? Could a fourth regiment help to organize the battalions better according to what they each specialize / focus in ?

Also, with this change up of battalions it seems more like you guys are just mixing everything together now, completely throwing out the concept of certain battalions existing to fulfill a specific mission. You have now mixed 1 siege, 1 attack and 1 spec battalion together for the 3 section armies. Does this mean you no longer want battalions to think they have a specific focus? Or is this intended to organize the 9 battalions into 3 army groups? I'm just worried you guys want to push the battalionization agenda and essentially make every battalion the same just with different looking armor. 

I think it would be cool to see how this goes if the plan is to organize these sections into 3 separate armies, where the battalions within complement what the other lack.

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13 minutes ago, Dono said:

Why are we limited to only having 3 regiments to organize everything under? Could a fourth regiment help to organize the battalions better according to what they each specialize / focus in ?

While I don’t want to speak for CWRP High Command on the why these battalions were chose for these regiments I can touch on this point here regarding the 3/3/3. 
 

So right now the RCMD job has 3 slots, this current plan they are working with is revolving around that if any sort of fourth regiment were to be looked at it wouldn’t be a option they could just make and decide. A forth regiment requires the server directors signing off on the creation of a new RCMD job and then to pass server suggestions for a job slot increase before it could be looked at for implementation. 
 

So hopefully that outlines why they are sticking to the 3/3/3 for now but if the community thinks 2/2/2/2 would honestly be better that’s a conversation to bring up to your high command members and a whole different can of worms to tackle. 

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3 hours ago, Comics said:

The names are so cringe it hurts. I really don't care if its lore because so was grey jedi and everyone hated them for being edgy.

And why are we always out the loop, why is it always feedback after the change?!?!?!

Hey! We actually got feedback before the change. From the last office of high command we put a poll and had a discussion. We annouced this in a command meeting. We had all RCMDs to talk to their individual BCMDs, and this forum post is another annoucement before the change goes into effect for community feedback incase something needs to drastically change. However! The names are cringe, I do agree. Do you have a better suggestion? If we find something all three Regs like that doesn't sound cringe, please please tell me. 

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25 minutes ago, Xaze said:

Hey! We actually got feedback before the change. From the last office of high command we put a poll and had a discussion. We annouced this in a command meeting. We had all RCMDs to talk to their individual BCMDs, and this forum post is another annoucement before the change goes into effect for community feedback incase something needs to drastically change. However! The names are cringe, I do agree. Do you have a better suggestion? If we find something all three Regs like that doesn't sound cringe, please please tell me. 

Could we just go back to the way they were? Why the change in the first place? Nothing was wrong, everyone seemed happy with their regiment, why change it? 

 

I especially don't like that now we are forced into new regiments with different battalions, after we've all worked really hard to get close bonds with our siege-mates. 104th, GM, CG and DU were tight. We all knew eachother, and (at least from my perspective) we were all super excited to get to work with Slak. I agree entirely with Comics, this is a large change that only had feedback after the change. We heard some rumors, but that was it. 

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10 hours ago, Tec said:

They're lore accurate, blame the star wars writers.

Wait really?

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While I am not too thrilled about the new changes to the regiment system, I can understand why this has been done and I am more than happy to adapt to the changes that have been implemented. While at first I was sceptical at the idea of working along-side a new set of battalions, this may present the opportunity to expand on the ideas of how each battalions operates and the possibility to form a strong attachment between each other and incorporate some of the fundamental values that each battalion offers into Rancor itself. 

The reality is if the system does not work, then community feedback will provide the necessary foundation for change into a positive direction. I will attempt to work closely with both @SEXICOand @Mercywith guidance from @Noodlesto the best of my abilities. At first I was annoyed, but admittedly I am rather excited to see how this change will impact the community and my battalion. The expression "Don't knock it until you try it" seems to fit this situation well. 

I believe Noodles. who will oversee the 41st Elite Corps, Coruscant Guard and Rancor, will be able to generate a brotherly bond between each battalion and assist the battalions to generate the necessary growth they desperately need. 

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28 minutes ago, Lovestruck said:

I agree entirely with Comics, this is a large change that only had feedback after the change.

The change hasn't happened yet. This confuses me. 

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1 hour ago, Xaze said:

we find something all three Regs like that doesn't sound cringe, please please tell me. 

What was wrong with the original names, these lore ones are actually atrocious

Also there was a poll to ask if we wanted change and new names. The rest was kept private from what I can recall. As you can tell the mixed reception this clearly wasn't a community wide choice.

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19 minutes ago, Xaze said:

The change hasn't happened yet. This confuses me. 

Ah, I see. Well, I take back that section, but this still seems like something you guys finished without input. I'm glad these aren't finalized.

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11 hours ago, Tec said:

They're lore accurate, blame the star wars writers.

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1 hour ago, Comics said:

Also there was a poll to ask if we wanted change and new names. The rest was kept private from what I can recall. As you can tell the mixed reception this clearly wasn't a community wide choice.

False, There was a Commander meeting on it. There was lots of discussion before hand.

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45 minutes ago, Prophet said:

Don't we also have the official number designation to call them, like 1st, 5th and 10th? If we don't have the names, then let's just use the numbers. At least it'd be easier to have it typed as part of a message in-game and in discord. 

They have both their official numerical designation and their nicknames. You can refer to them as either or completely up to you. Kind of like how 104th is also referred to as the Wolfpack in lore or 21st Nova Corps as Galactic Marines. It’s all about preference. If you prefer the numbers use the numbers, if it’s easier to type the numbers then use the numbers. If you like being cringe and edgy use the nicknames! (This isn’t a bash I actually like this change)

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They have both their official numerical designation and their nicknames. You can refer to them as either or completely up to you. Kind of like how 104th is also referred to as the Wolfpack in lore or 21st Nova Corps as Galactic Marines. It’s all about preference. If you prefer the numbers use the numbers, if it’s easier to type the numbers then use the numbers. If you like being cringe and edgy use the nicknames! (This isn’t a bash I actually like this change)

That's what I'm trying to get at. A lot of people are bashing about the names when they still have their number designation (which I think is cooler to call em that like "SEND IN THE 3RD ARMY TO HALT THEM!") . 

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6 hours ago, Comics said:

What was wrong with the original names, these lore ones are actually atrocious

Also there was a poll to ask if we wanted change and new names. The rest was kept private from what I can recall. As you can tell the mixed reception this clearly wasn't a community wide choice.

The original names (I'm assuming you're referring to Attack, Siege, Spec, please correct me if I'm wrong) are really restrictive in how battalions were able to be matched together, and when this was first talked about in High Command, the Regimental Deployments were still locked in place. There have been a lot of complaints and issues over the years about how battalions are matched together, both in lore (CG does not Siege, why are they in the Siege REG?) and in practice (Why would DU and GM deploy together when they have such different skillsets?). This change was intended to fix the former issue, allowing battalions to not feel like they don't belong in a regiment, and also allowing RCMDs to have a better understanding of the battalions as a whole, all while allowing the overall process to stay somewhat the same.

As for the 'secrecy', I'm not sure why you think anything was secret. This has been talked about in HC for more than a month, there was a High Command meeting about this, every Battalion Command team was approached multiple times about these changes, and no one was ever told to not tell anyone. I've been pretty open about the changes, and while I can't say if anyone else talked about it, it was never considered 'Don't tell the community' as far as we were concerned. We didn't go out of our way to ask every person in the community, because this change ultimately doesn't affect most of the community, it really only affects the upper part of a battalions' command structure, and High Command itself. Which regiment you're in doesn't really change how you play the game on a day to day basis, especially with the deployment change that was put into place. You're free to interact with anyone, same as before, and you can join train or deploy with anyone, same as before. 

 

 

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9 hours ago, Comics said:

this clearly wasn't a community wide choice.

The community votes for people to obtain positions in Server High Command. Those people are then entrusted to make decisions based on what happens within the server.

It's like the house of representatives. You as a citizen don't get a say on every decision. You elect people that the general populous feels would best represent them and allow that person to make the decisions and changes or arguments against changes as they see fit as you elected them.

If you don't like the fact that these changes are being made without you being asked, then either;

A. Run for a High Command position so you can be involved in the change making process.

or

B. Elect a new representative. ie. Don't +1 the person when they apply next.

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The community votes for people to obtain positions in Server High Command. Those people are then entrusted to make decisions based on what happens within the server.

It's like the house of representatives. You as a citizen don't get a say on every decision. You elect people that the general populous feels would best represent them and allow that person to make the decisions and changes or arguments against changes as they see fit as you elected them.

If you don't like the fact that these changes are being made without you being asked, then either;

A. Run for a High Command position so you can be involved in the change making process.

or

B. Elect a new representative. ie. Don't +1 the person when they apply next.

My big problem  with this is that there have been several applications that have been bombed with -1s (Dennis's Bacara Application) and still got to interview. Also, after the "vote", they go to interview, where regardless of the "votes", they are accepted or denied by a small group of individuals. These individuals are people we either did not vote in, such as Head Admins or Directors, or people who were inducted by this application - interview process.

It is not a vote, especially since even AFTER we put in a measly +1 or -1 for the interview, the decision isn't up to us. These aren't elections, they are selections.

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5 minutes ago, Lovestruck said:

These individuals are people we either did not vote in, such as Head Admins or Directors

Sorry but there will never be a time in this community where the community will vote on who becomes a Director or Head Admin, simply due to the level of trust and control of the server that we give the people within these roles. They are trusted by our Community Leadership team (Management+) to lead the community in the direction they feel is fit and generally that goes unhindered by our leadership team.

 

In terms of this;

7 minutes ago, Lovestruck said:

there have been several applications that have been bombed with -1s (Dennis's Bacara Application) and still got to interview.

This is where High Command and High Staff may use their better judgement, if there's a fairly even spread of +1 and -1 (yes that includes if it is overall more negative by a few votes) on whether or not these people are worthy of an interview. This is where votes get looked at as do you just dislike someone or is there a reason for this. This is where leaving a comment with context helps.

 

But overall,

9 minutes ago, Lovestruck said:

My big problem

You say you have a big problem, but I don't see a suggestion posted by you with a solution to fix the so-called issue?

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9 minutes ago, Forseen said:

Sorry but there will never be a time in this community where the community will vote on who becomes a Director or Head Admin, simply due to the level of trust and control of the server that we give the people within these roles. They are trusted by our Community Leadership team (Management+) to lead the community in the direction they feel is fit and generally that goes unhindered by our leadership team.

I'm not saying we should do this. I'm simply stating that they still have a vote, making it less of an election.

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In terms of this;

This is where High Command and High Staff may use their better judgement, if there's a fairly even spread of +1 and -1 (yes that includes if it is overall more negative by a few votes) on whether or not these people are worthy of an interview. This is where votes get looked at as do you just dislike someone or is there a reason for this. This is where leaving a comment with context helps.

You are not helping your case with this, you're saying that despite out vote they can choose to still give someone an interview, entirely taking it out of community hands.

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But overall,

You say you have a big problem, but I don't see a suggestion posted by you with a solution to fix the so-called issue?

My big problem is with what you're saying. You're calling it a "house of representatives", saying next time we should "elect" different individuals to lead. It is not an election, especially since after the application, we have 0 say, and according to you, the High Command and High Staff can "use their better judgement" (go against our "votes"). If it were a house of representatives, the house wouldn't get to pick and choose who they interview based on their "better judgement" in close calls, and they wouldn't have the power to decide solely whether or not to let them in. It is hard to get further from an actual election.

I guess solutions would be make it more like an actual house of representatives or election? Or don't compare it to one.

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How tf is 212th part of a regiment called shadow hand, I understand GC but wtf, this shit mad cringe. But it’s better then siege and attack existing as two seperate things even thought they’re synonymous. 
 

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14 hours ago, Arizona said:

Yall acting like the world is ending. I swear these changes are gonna happen and guess what? You're gonna go about your time in synergy just like normal. :pepeCopium:

Suck it up lol.

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On 7/21/2022 at 12:15 AM, Forseen said:

It's like the house of representatives. You as a citizen don't get a say on every decision. You elect people that the general populous feels would best represent them and allow that person to make the decisions and changes or arguments against changes as they see fit as you elected them.

Famously all the people in HC were running on a public platform of making these changes! And that's what we all asked to make happen when we voted for them!

You're comparing a community of like at most 200 people to a country of 300 million. Big stupid choices like this can be handed directly to the community because its not that big. The USA cannot referendum small issues we as a community can lol.

No one is gonna vote against a good HC because they have the unannounced potential to name a really awful make change. This isn't a good excuse to ignore the community lol.

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For a name change this thread is somethin else.

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54 minutes ago, A-a-ron said:

I don’t give a fuck about the changes but saying it’s just a name change is just completely wrong

I get the points people are bringing up,. But at the end of the day at face value, its simply rearranging the people in each regiment and renaming it. If you dig deeper, sure its a lack of communication and HC yet again doing things without majority vote/feedback. I was simply taking it at face value.

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13 minutes ago, Mystic said:

I get the points people are bringing up,. But at the end of the day at face value, its simply rearranging the people in each regiment and renaming it. If you dig deeper, sure its a lack of communication and HC yet again doing things without majority vote/feedback. I was simply taking it at face value.

Yeah I just find it weird how forseen was calling it a House of Representatives when in the real world we know what our representatives are voting for and who voted for what. But we get none of that here it’s just a continued lack of communication and it just goes back high staff/command thinking we don’t know what we want so they see no point in having anyone except for them involved

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